freaklikeme wrote:
1. Anything's possible, but I don't know that anyone's working on the problem. It's a fairly minor limitation and I wonder how many a7c owners are even aware of the issue. Or how many other model owners bother to turn off EFCS when they hit 1/1000 or faster.
2. Not in the same way. Rendering issues with electronic shutters, even on blazingly fast cameras, are all movement based, so it is possible to have no perceptible difference between fully-mechanical and electronic regardless of shutter speed, assuming you can limit all movement. The EFCS issue is persistent.
3. My magic eight-ball says no. It's frequently wrong, but my feeling is we'll see a 90MP+ non-stacked sensor in the rVI, because that's what the r line has been- a relatively slow stills oriented resolution monster. ...Show more →
While I've owned Fuji's in the past I've never handled a XH2 with its 40 Pixel sensor which at Full Frame would translate to 90 Mpixels. Is it image quality and dynamic range as good as or better than the A7RV? If not 61 Mpixels is a fine limit to me. If I needed more I would go look at a X100S and not ask for 90 Mpixels in a full frame body.
mklass wrote:
I am looking forward to the A7CII, and will buy one.
A joystick to move the focus point would be nice, but I have adapted to the Sony system in that regard (I'm coming from Nikon).
This joystick thing - am I missing something - why is it so important for people, could you just focus in centre and re-compose?
Why people like to use joystick to move focus point?
phinix wrote:
This joystick thing - am I missing something - why is it so important for people, could you just focus in centre and re-compose?
Why people like to use joystick to move focus point?
In the time it takes you to focus and recompose, you might miss the moment. But one should also separate their AF from their shutter button for similar reasons.
weatherproof wrote:
In the time it takes you to focus and recompose, you might miss the moment. But one should also separate their AF from their shutter button for similar reasons.
In the time you push the joystick around instead ofpressing the buttom for tracking you may miss the moment. It's the same... but sure, a joystick for those found of that method, why not?
mklass wrote:
I am looking forward to the A7CII, and will buy one.
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I read lots of complaints about the EVF on the original version, but this seems to be someone's pet peeve that has been repeated over and over. I find the current version's EVF to be perfectly fine.
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I agree. The viewfinder is for focusing, an info central and a framing device. Then I'm also wanting a bigger viewfinder (my small µ4/3 cameras have bigger vierwfinders, my old Olympus OM4 had a bigger viewfinder and so on) but the current A7C viewfinder size really can't be a deal breaker. When doubting the AF or mounting a manual lens I activate the enlarge function and there is no problem focusing.
My guess it is what you are used to but I didn't need long time to adapt.
Looking at the latest rumours with Euro prices we would have:
- A7C: 1500€
- A7Cii: 2400€
- A7CR: 3700€
In my case I just got an A7C that I liked quite a lot but that I can return. I only care about stills so I would get:
For 900€ extra:
- 9MP extra
- An extra wheel (all lenses I care about now have an aperture ring)
- Configurable wheel instead of exposure wheel
- Slightly? better AF and IBIS
- ??
For 1300€ extra in addition to the 900€:
- Another 28MP extra
- Tilt screen
- Included grip
- Much? better AF
Am I missing something here? My feeling is that the A7Cii gives you little extra on top of the A7C. Benefits from the A7CR are more obvious starting with the resolution, screen and AF, but now the price is more than double…
I am inclined to just keep the A7C, because I want the R for the crop possibilities but the price is just too much of a difference.
swldstn wrote:
While I've owned Fuji's in the past I've never handled a XH2 with its 40 Pixel sensor which at Full Frame would translate to 90 Mpixels. Is it image quality and dynamic range as good as or better than the A7RV? If not 61 Mpixels is a fine limit to me. If I needed more I would go look at a X100S and not ask for 90 Mpixels in a full frame body.
I remember when the rIV was released, how many rIII shooters, myself included, said roughly the same thing. Now I feel like the last holdout who doesn't own an rV. So the rVI may not get you, but they'll figure out a way to get you to want the rVII.
I don't know what real decisions can be made until they are released and price and specs announced.
Pricing? I don't know what they are thinking but think the "voices" in the decision process include those who felt leaving a cable out of the A6700 box was a good virtue signal and may have outweighed the ones who wanted the traditional cable in the box.
I don't know what to think of the rumored prices. In the US, the A6700 is priced at the A6600 price or close to it and the A6600 and A6400 reduced some. So that might suggest the A7Cii might be priced quite close to the A7C. OTOH, it's not an A7iv and aside from the most recent focus system - A7RV level goodness - it's short of the A7iv in several ways so I'd be surprised if the price is much closer to the A7iv.
That should hold the A7CR price down to considering the sensor difference. Although it's not impossible that they might have an additional body evolution and improve the finder and/or go to the A7Rv rear panel, etc. But as with the A7Cii and A7iv, it won't have the full feature set of the A7V so might be hard pressed to sell at too close to the A7Rv price.
phinix wrote:
This joystick thing - am I missing something - why is it so important for people, could you just focus in centre and re-compose?
Why people like to use joystick to move focus point?
I’ve only ever used it with the Tracking: Flexible Spot mode, but there I find it the best and fastest way to place the tracking point ahead of time (this is for photographing youth sports). Just keeping it in the center and recomposing after acquiring focus is not as fast.
phinix wrote:
This joystick thing - am I missing something - why is it so important for people, could you just focus in centre and re-compose?
Why people like to use joystick to move focus point?
I agree, I'm faster keeping a tracking spot in the center, locking it on target, and recompose. I can see people who like a joystick, but for me I don't use it.
tschopp wrote:
I agree, I'm faster keeping a tracking spot in the center, locking it on target, and recompose. I can see people who like a joystick, but for me I don't use it.
Yeah, it takes 0.5 sec to move camera back to the wanted frame. It would take 3-4 secs to move joystick around...
Because people like to focus and get things not only in acceptable focus but also in critically sharp focus. re-compose does not get you there.
phinix wrote:
This joystick thing - am I missing something - why is it so important for people, could you just focus in centre and re-compose?
Why people like to use joystick to move focus point?
olegkin wrote:
Because people like to focus and get things not only in acceptable focus but also in critically sharp focus. re-compose does not get you there.
Not center focus and recompose--real time tracking, which sticks to the original focus point.
