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Archive 2023 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf

  
 
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p.20 #1 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Desmolicious wrote:
TY! Ok, now I am really interested... I know it seems silly but even my Leica M10r has an always visible screen (even though I turn it off). So I have a 1/2 case on it so it is fully covered up. Plus then no need for a screen protector.
It's something I wish my (now sold) Fuji Xpro3 had. Instead Fuji put a mini screen on it.


I am a bit slow sometimes I know. But, when I don't want to look at something I just close my eyes or something. I have been doing this wrong my whole life...



Sep 20, 2023 at 10:47 AM
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p.20 #2 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


1bwana1 wrote:
I am a bit slow sometimes I know. But, when I don't want to look at something I just close my eyes or something. I have been doing this wrong my whole life...


The temptation is just too.... tempting.



Sep 20, 2023 at 10:56 AM
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p.20 #3 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


1bwana1 wrote:
Especially where space is important I see internal memory as the best solution for redundancy, speed (shooting and downloading), capacity, reliability, and effectiveness. The micro SD card is a weak solution in comparison. After living with the card/internal storage system in the Leica M11 I am a fan of it. It will likely be the future in many cameras going forward.


Why is that the case if MicroSD cards are available in V90 speeds and costs are pretty similar to a V90 SD card? It won't be any slower than the SD card and you can treat it like internal memory if used in backup mode.



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:00 AM
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p.20 #4 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


It’s weird to me there’s a PASM lever on the left with manual dials. Seems confusing if the switch makes a dial nonfunctional.

Anyway the only thing I have to complain about is the aesthetic mismatch between the camera and most of the lenses. Looks like a home run from Nikon to me.



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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p.20 #5 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Not much nonsense in this video. Definitely gives a great look at the ZF.



Well done Nikon.



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:03 AM
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p.20 #6 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


The retro cameras aren't my cup of tea but congrats to anyone who was waiting for this one, it looks like a very well featured camera. As I have been saying for a while now I think this is also more/less our first look at the Z6III but I don't think that is too surprising.

Nice to see Nikon adding what they can to the new camera even at a relatively low price point - pixel shift, focus point linked VR, and seemingly quite a significant increase to overall stabilization performance up to 8 stops (2 stops better than Z8/Z9 are advertised to achieve). Competition-wise it looks to one up the A74 in most areas except resolution and roughly match the R6II for $500 USD less than both - hopefully the Z6III also comes out at a similar price point but I won't be surprised if they shoot for the $2500 price point.

Ricci said it's the same sensor as the Z6II, but he might have been talking about the resolution as I have read elsewhere it has a faster readout. I'm sure we won't have to wait long to find out for sure.

Edited on Sep 20, 2023 at 12:14 PM · View previous versions



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:04 AM
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I don’t think we’ll get Z8 level performance. I agree the “refresh rate” from faster readout makes a difference. I saw this between the X-H2S and X-T5. They are largely identical except for readout speed, and the X-H2S was better at holding onto a moving animal eye.

That said, the algorithm also makes a huge difference, and I expect the Zf will be considerably better than the Z6II just due to the improved ML subject detection algorithm ( or is it simply a better trained model?).

Having the Z8 3D tracking is a huge improvement as well. When shooting non-wildlife with my Z9 I use 3D tracking and recompose for most photos.

I’m very much looking forward to the Zf for macro, where the dials and side-folding LCD make for a really ergonomic way to shoot odd angles, and the 105MC with 3D tracking can follow even slow insects reliably. If the new IBIS helps, I’ll be happy to take that, too.

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I have my doubts about how much AF will improve. Having 3D tracking will be nice, but without faster sensor scan speed I don't think the AF will get close to Z8/Z9 level.




Sep 20, 2023 at 11:12 AM
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p.20 #8 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Now that the ZF is out, the ideal accessory for this retro camera would be a new FTZ adapter that has an aperture follower tab for old MF lenses....






Sep 20, 2023 at 11:26 AM
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p.20 #9 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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Now that the ZF is out, the ideal accessory for this retro camera would be a new FTZ adapter that has an aperture follower tab for old MF lenses....



Absolutely!

In the meantime the Shoten FZ1 at least matches the looks nicely

(but focal length won’t be recorded to Exif, at least isn’t on the current Z bodies if one doesn’t use the FTZ)


Edited on Sep 20, 2023 at 11:30 AM · View previous versions



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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p.20 #10 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Desmolicious wrote:
Now that the ZF is out, the ideal accessory for this retro camera would be a new FTZ adapter that has an aperture follower tab for old MF lenses....



The fact they don't have an adapter with this and a screw drive is baffling to me.



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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p.20 #11 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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The fact they don't have an adapter with this and a screw drive is baffling to me.


Probably a mixture of extremely low demand and Nikon wanting to sell more Z lenses. Agreed it would be nice to have though.



Sep 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM
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p.20 #12 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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Jman13 wrote:
The fact they don't have an adapter with this and a screw drive is baffling to me.





Sep 20, 2023 at 11:43 AM
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p.20 #13 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


The market simply doesn’t care, no matter what a few stragglers on Internet message boards have to say about it.

Jman13 wrote:
The fact they don't have an adapter with this and a screw drive is baffling to me.




Sep 20, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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CanadaMark wrote:
Ricci said it's the same sensor as the Z7II, but he might have been talking about the resolution as I have read elsewhere it has a faster readout. I'm sure we won't have to wait long to find out for sure.



I think you meant to type Z6II.



Sep 20, 2023 at 12:05 PM
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p.20 #15 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


RoamingScott wrote:
The market simply doesn’t care, no matter what a few stragglers on Internet message boards have to say about it.



Oh, this has been brought up before?




Sep 20, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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p.20 #16 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


It would be nice if Nikon could release a couple of prime lenses with manual/mechanical aperture rings for the ZF. The way Fuji does for their cameras.


Sep 20, 2023 at 12:08 PM
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p.20 #17 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


1bwana1 wrote:
I think you meant to type Z6II.


I did - thank you for the correction!



Sep 20, 2023 at 12:14 PM
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p.20 #18 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


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Not much nonsense in this video. Definitely gives a great look at the ZF.



Well done Nikon.


Very nice. I like this Nikon a lot. I only use my Z7 to scan film because I don't find it engaging/fun to use, but this ZF looks very different in that respect.



Sep 20, 2023 at 12:22 PM
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p.20 #19 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


Where is anyone seeing the sensor scan speed, and how does it compare to the Z6 II and the Z8?


Sep 20, 2023 at 01:27 PM
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p.20 #20 · Let's talk about the Nikon Zf


craigjohn wrote:
Where is anyone seeing the sensor scan speed, and how does it compare to the Z6 II and the Z8?


I read somewhere that it is the same as the Z6II. Slower than the Z8/9.



Sep 20, 2023 at 01:46 PM
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