Steve Spencer wrote:
Steve, it looks like they are putting flourine coatings on the sensor glass (like they do on the front lens of their top lenses) for the first time. Perhaps they think this coating will be good enough at repelling dusting (or perhaps preventing it from adhering so that it can be shook off with the dust shaker) that they won't need dust protection with the shutter. I am interested to see if this coating approach makes any difference. I still get your point, however. No reason you couldn't have the coating and close the shutter when changing lenses. Perhaps they are worried about shutter damage, but that seems unlikely to me....Show more →
Fluorine coating is not new though. If I remember correcty, both Z8 and Z9 also have them. They both have dual electro conductive and fluorine coating. Not sure how useful it is since I use sensor shield on Z8/Z9 so dust has not been much
of a problem anyhow.
My local dealer claims that it has a brand new sensor with faster readout speed than Z6/Z7 so that should help AF.
A7r V also has relatively slow read out speed but with dedicated AF cpu and that seems to make a big difference
so Expeed7 may also improve Z F AF (but probably not to the same level as dedicated AF cpu) over Z6ii quite a bit but we will have to wait and see if that is really true or not.
Having been a Nikon user back when FM and FM2 were the thing my first one cost $219 I think… I like the body design. I wish there was a chrome option. i wish it was 33 megapixels. I might get one. If you order from Nikon USA you can choose from 6 or seven colors of leather (like) which look pretty cool but it is body only.
RoamingScott wrote:
- MicroSD is a major fail given the performance specs of the CPU and burst abilities. They should have made the camera just big enough to at least accommodate dual SD so that shooting in backup mode would be somewhat possible with high speed bursts.
Especially where space is important I see internal memory as the best solution for redundancy, speed (shooting and downloading), capacity, reliability, and effectiveness. The micro SD card is a weak solution in comparison. After living with the card/internal storage system in the Leica M11 I am a fan of it. It will likely be the future in many cameras going forward.
treacle wrote:
Having been a Nikon user back when FM and FM2 were the thing my first one cost $219 I think… I like the body design. I wish there was a chrome option. i wish it was 33 megapixels. I might get one. If you order from Nikon USA you can choose from 6 or seven colors of leather (like) which look pretty cool but it is body only.
Yeah the colors are interesting, not sure if I'd want one, maybe the green? You can't even order the black body only anyway, just says something is wrong
1bwana1 wrote:
Especially where space is important I see internal memory as the best solution for redundancy, speed (shooting and downloading), capacity, reliability, and effectiveness. The micro SD card is a weak solution in comparison. After living with the card/internal storage system in the Leica M11 I am a fan of it. It will likely be the future in many cameras going forward.
It's a major bottom line expense component. Leica Tax accounts for that, Nikon's does not
In terms of tech, it's the best and most robust solution to be sure.
AF calculations as well as subject recognition are all taken from a separate much smaller data stream. I actually do expect a fair jump in AF performance with EXPEED 7 alone.
But I don’t expect much (if any) improvements in the EVF blackout/slideshow department over the Z6 ii.
I’m not sure that this sensor is any different to the Z6 ii. The specs are in line with IMX 410 so if they are so close, there would be no reason to use a different sensor. IMX410 is also a catalog sensor so I don’t think there would be any scope to modify it.
Manufacturers don’t normally use sensors to their max specs but what I think might be happening is EXPEED 7 allows the sensor to output closer to its max potential whereas previously Dual/EXPEED 6 were the bottleneck.
I think this overall looks like a really nice camera. The only thing I don't like is that I much prefer a multi-axis tilting screen like the Z8 over a fully articulated one, as I don't shoot video or selfies, and I find the Z8's screen so much more useful for photography. I can deal with a fully articulated screen (And did on Canon for 3 years), but it is slower to take out, a much bigger pain to deal with on a tripod (Moving from low to high on a vertical? take it off the tripod, change the orientation, and then reattach to tripod).
On these 'retro' style cameras, I like this style of screen - not because of the ability to turn it towards a selfie orientation, but because I can flip it shut with the LCD hidden completely. I suppose there could be other ways of creating an on-axis hinge that accomplishes the same thing....
I like it, granted I don't appear to be as finicky about everything like everybody else in here. If I wasn't scraping together cash to get my Fuji setup more dialed in I'd definitely pick this up. I'm actually recommending this to people.
I usually don't like the colored skins, but I do like that dark red. Looks really slick to me, and if I were going to get one of these, I would get that one.
I will be passing on this, as I already have a smaller backup body to my Z8 in the Z7 II, and for what I shoot having that amazing 45MP sensor is more important in that body than the AF improvements....I have the Z8 for that.
Joseph Marney wrote:
On these 'retro' style cameras, I like this style of screen - not because of the ability to turn it towards a selfie orientation, but because I can flip it shut with the LCD hidden completely. I suppose there could be other ways of creating an on-axis hinge that accomplishes the same thing....
That's how I shoot my Fuji X-T4 basically all the time, EVF only with the articulated LCD hidden. It makes so much sense with the dials and retro aesthetics. IMO Fuji went backwards with the X-T5's new tilt screen.
This Nikon Zf is such a gorgeous camera. 24MP is OK. I am surprised it's not more, though.
JadedWriter wrote:
Yes you can rotate the screen to protect/hide it.
TY! Ok, now I am really interested... I know it seems silly but even my Leica M10r has an always visible screen (even though I turn it off). So I have a 1/2 case on it so it is fully covered up. Plus then no need for a screen protector.
It's something I wish my (now sold) Fuji Xpro3 had. Instead Fuji put a mini screen on it.
