Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
p.9 #1Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
I'm sure this is a nice camera, but it's still a bit of a sad thing that after Nikon all but ditching aps-c, also per Sony, the Nikon D500 aps-c days will not return in mirrorless.
Jul 12, 2023 at 11:30 AM
p.9 #2Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
If Sony had done anything like what was rumoured or requested I think A1 sales would totally stop. Even changed to a camcorder screen for good measure ala smaller buffer on a6600 vs. a6500 to protect a6600 sales. I think I need to stop expecting to see cameras as optimal photographic instruments as their primary function because that's not often what they are. A camera must support the camera company first and foremost.
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Jul 12, 2023 at 11:44 AM
p.9 #3Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
jwpstl wrote:
For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.It does not have enhanced IBIS or 2 slots (1 SD only).
The press image on B&H makes it look like 2 slots but it's just 1.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.
chiron wrote
I am feeling pretty enthusiastic about this body. I couldn't care less about BIF or sports action. But this body has enhanced autofocus, enhanced dynamic range, enhanced IBIS, enhanced low light sensitivity, two slots (I think), and enhanced ergonomics. All of this is delivered in a very small and lightweight body.For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.
The press image on B&H makes it look like 2 slots but it's just 1.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:01 PM
p.9 #4Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
jwpstl wrote:
For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.It does not have enhanced IBIS or 2 slots (1 SD only).
Yes, I wasn't sure that the rumored two slots had come through. But what makes you say the IBIS has not been enhanced? Compared to what?
chiron wrote
I am feeling pretty enthusiastic about this body. I couldn't care less about BIF or sports action. But this body has enhanced autofocus, enhanced dynamic range, enhanced IBIS, enhanced low light sensitivity, two slots (I think), and enhanced ergonomics. All of this is delivered in a very small and lightweight body.For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.
Yes, I wasn't sure that the rumored two slots had come through. But what makes you say the IBIS has not been enhanced? Compared to what?
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:02 PM
p.9 #5Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
chiron wrote:
For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.It does not have enhanced IBIS or 2 slots (1 SD only).Yes, I wasn't sure that the rumored two slots had come through. But what makes you say the IBIS has not been enhanced? Compared to what?
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
jwpstl wrote
chiron wrote
I am feeling pretty enthusiastic about this body. I couldn't care less about BIF or sports action. But this body has enhanced autofocus, enhanced dynamic range, enhanced IBIS, enhanced low light sensitivity, two slots (I think), and enhanced ergonomics. All of this is delivered in a very small and lightweight body.For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:04 PM
p.9 #6Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
bluehawaii wrote:
For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.It does not have enhanced IBIS or 2 slots (1 SD only).The press image on B&H makes it look like 2 slots but it's just 1.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.
It's actually hard to know. They say "AI enhanced autofocus and image stabilization" at B&H. Also, enhanced 14 stop DR. The low light sensitivity optimization is valuable to me.
jwpstl wrote
chiron wrote
I am feeling pretty enthusiastic about this body. I couldn't care less about BIF or sports action. But this body has enhanced autofocus, enhanced dynamic range, enhanced IBIS, enhanced low light sensitivity, two slots (I think), and enhanced ergonomics. All of this is delivered in a very small and lightweight body.For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.
It's actually hard to know. They say "AI enhanced autofocus and image stabilization" at B&H. Also, enhanced 14 stop DR. The low light sensitivity optimization is valuable to me.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:07 PM
p.9 #7Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:12 PM
p.9 #8Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
Iguana829 wrote:
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
What does that have to do with IBIS?
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
What does that have to do with IBIS?
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:13 PM
p.9 #9Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
jwpstl wrote:
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever testedWhat does that have to do with IBIS?
I thought you said IBIS and AF for some reason. Yup, IBIS the same
Iguana829 wrote
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
I thought you said IBIS and AF for some reason. Yup, IBIS the same
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:15 PM
p.9 #10Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
I am ordering this camera day one. It is perfect for me. The biggest letdown is the 1 card slot and lame low res EVF. I'd rather the camera be like $1599 (like rumored) and have those two things rather than this iteration at $1399, but whatever
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:16 PM
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p.9 #11Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
chiron wrote:
For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.It does not have enhanced IBIS or 2 slots (1 SD only).The press image on B&H makes it look like 2 slots but it's just 1.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.It's actually hard to know. They say "AI enhanced autofocus and image stabilization" at B&H. Also, enhanced 14 stop DR. The low light sensitivity optimization is valuable to me.
Good point, didn't see that part.
This is a comparison of the latest BSI Fujis and the a6600.
Dynamic Range Comparison
It will be really interesting to see how the a6700 checks out in comparison.
Strangely, when DXO tested the a6600 they did it at the extended low base ISO which limits DR as shown by Photons to Photos in the link above.
bluehawaii wrote
jwpstl wrote
chiron wrote
I am feeling pretty enthusiastic about this body. I couldn't care less about BIF or sports action. But this body has enhanced autofocus, enhanced dynamic range, enhanced IBIS, enhanced low light sensitivity, two slots (I think), and enhanced ergonomics. All of this is delivered in a very small and lightweight body.For me, the smallness of the body and the technical enhancements and what I assume will be its quickness for shooting, give it an appeal that for me (I know that others will feel very differently) is similar to the original rationale for Leica--a small, unintimidating, fast camera body to record high quality, documentary-style images in whatever context (family, travel, street, events, etc.) one might find them.
I am planning on getting one and using it at least until I see what the A7CII brings.
I don't think DR at base ISO will be any different to it's predecessor will it? The AF and IBIS is mostly the same as the a6600 according to reports.
Good point, didn't see that part.
This is a comparison of the latest BSI Fujis and the a6600.
Dynamic Range Comparison
It will be really interesting to see how the a6700 checks out in comparison.
Strangely, when DXO tested the a6600 they did it at the extended low base ISO which limits DR as shown by Photons to Photos in the link above.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:17 PM
p.9 #12Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
Iguana829 wrote:
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
Haven't seen that one, I was just going by DPR who said it was a mostly similar system.
Does Gerald Undone have any nodding dog brand affiliations or is he quite honest about things?
The iBIS is the same as the A6600 according to the many reports I've read, so it hasn't been "enhanced" from the previous model.
Umm... No? It has the AI AF from the A7R V. Gerald Undone said it has the best AF of any camera hes ever tested
Haven't seen that one, I was just going by DPR who said it was a mostly similar system.
Does Gerald Undone have any nodding dog brand affiliations or is he quite honest about things?
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:22 PM
p.9 #13Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
ChrisMak wrote:
I'm sure this is a nice camera, but it's still a bit of a sad thing that after Nikon all but ditching aps-c, also per Sony, the Nikon D500 aps-c days will not return in mirrorless.
Doesn't seem like it. Perhaps the last/best of the aps-c sensors in an ff size body. TBH, I'm not sure I'd care if the stacked sensor fast almost A9 came in either the A6xxx or A7xx body. Small body for size and convenience, larger body would help in wrestling larger lenses where small body size really isn't a benefit.
I'm sure this is a nice camera, but it's still a bit of a sad thing that after Nikon all but ditching aps-c, also per Sony, the Nikon D500 aps-c days will not return in mirrorless.
Doesn't seem like it. Perhaps the last/best of the aps-c sensors in an ff size body. TBH, I'm not sure I'd care if the stacked sensor fast almost A9 came in either the A6xxx or A7xx body. Small body for size and convenience, larger body would help in wrestling larger lenses where small body size really isn't a benefit.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:27 PM
p.9 #14Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
So here is my questions to the group. How well do you think the small FE f/2.5 G and Sigma I-Series Contemporary full frame lenses will work on it? I have those lenses for my A7C and might try out a body but not sure what, if any APS-C lenses I would buy for it. Admit I could probably try these lenses out on an A7RV in APS-C crop since the cropped sensor and the A6700 sensor are both ~26 Mpixels. But that will take some time so I wondered if any one had experience or on opinion.
Also, what are the best APS-C primes these days for the E mount?
Finally, wonder what new features this telegraphs for the rumored A7CII like a new front scroll wheel and AI processing chip for AF and new menu/touch screen. Any others?
Also, what are the best APS-C primes these days for the E mount?
Finally, wonder what new features this telegraphs for the rumored A7CII like a new front scroll wheel and AI processing chip for AF and new menu/touch screen. Any others?
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:29 PM
p.9 #15Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
Same viewfinder, same IBIS, same fps, same max shutter speed, no stacked sensor.
Disappointing to say the least.
Then again, that's what I said about the a6600, and I bought two of those.
This is a smaller upgrade though, at least photography-wise. The AI focusing features are nice, but I didn't have any complaints about autofocus.
It's a big maybe for me.
Disappointing to say the least.
Then again, that's what I said about the a6600, and I bought two of those.
This is a smaller upgrade though, at least photography-wise. The AI focusing features are nice, but I didn't have any complaints about autofocus.
It's a big maybe for me.
Jul 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM
p.9 #16Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
galenapass wrote:
I already have my non-stacked Canon R7 to shoot pictures like the one below
https://api.franklinsportsphoto.com/file/jpeg/427965f711db4b11917ac651761d953d?ext=.jpgActually, that is a cool shot, IMO. Definitely makes me look a few times.
Me too
docusync wrote
No stacked sensor - no deal.I already have my non-stacked Canon R7 to shoot pictures like the one below
https://api.franklinsportsphoto.com/file/jpeg/427965f711db4b11917ac651761d953d?ext=.jpg
Me too
Jul 12, 2023 at 01:42 PM
p.9 #17Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
trainerKEN wrote:
having two a1 bodies, I personally don't care (I only shoot stills). I can shoot in APS-C mode and still have about 20MP, no rolling shutters (*due to the stacked sensor) and 30fps (yes, I know... the a1 is also a LOT more expensive). So, I'm good. However, this brings me to my next point... Coming from someone that works part-time at a camera shop, if the a6700 doesn't come close to the Canon R7 at 15fps (20fps in e-shutter), the a6700 would be a fail. Sony's 10fps is soooo 2014, you have to go to the a9/a9II/a1 to get...Show more →
"Sony's 10fps is soooo 2014"
11fps. Sooo 2023 now
having two a1 bodies, I personally don't care (I only shoot stills). I can shoot in APS-C mode and still have about 20MP, no rolling shutters (*due to the stacked sensor) and 30fps (yes, I know... the a1 is also a LOT more expensive). So, I'm good. However, this brings me to my next point... Coming from someone that works part-time at a camera shop, if the a6700 doesn't come close to the Canon R7 at 15fps (20fps in e-shutter), the a6700 would be a fail. Sony's 10fps is soooo 2014, you have to go to the a9/a9II/a1 to get...Show more →
"Sony's 10fps is soooo 2014"
11fps. Sooo 2023 now
Jul 12, 2023 at 01:46 PM
p.9 #18Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
berimbolo wrote:
Something I have wondered about is lenses for said A7000, if you look at the 4/3 bodies and lenses they are designed for the sensor size, making equivalent fl lenses tiny in comparison, using a crop body with FF glass waists half the light, you would think they could make a focusing adapter that gives you that stop back, or am I talking rubbish?The APSC lens lineup is very good.My comment was in reference to the quoted posts and in relation to “big lenses for wildlife” I am not aware of any high quality big telephoto lenses that are apsc only,Sony 70-350G is sharp and focuses fast. Not the widest aperture after adjusting for the crop factor, but it is a very good lens.
IMHO it's a great lens even on A1. So light (and plasticky), but very sharp and excellent AF. Some of my shots are here
http://wildbirdimages.com/70350/
Uncle Chip wrote
berimbolo wrote
Uncle Chip wrote
arbitrage wrote
This hypothetical "A7000" as we've all called it over the years would be in addition to be like a mirrorless 7DII or D500 type camera. High end, stacked sensor with higher pixel density than even the A7RV and in a bigger, more ergonomic body to shoot wildlife with big lenses. Not aimed at compact, do-all, travel type body. Sony would still have those around in the A6XXX series.IMHO it's a great lens even on A1. So light (and plasticky), but very sharp and excellent AF. Some of my shots are here
http://wildbirdimages.com/70350/
Jul 12, 2023 at 01:48 PM
p.9 #19Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
ChrisMak wrote:
I'm sure this is a nice camera, but it's still a bit of a sad thing that after Nikon all but ditching aps-c, also per Sony, the Nikon D500 aps-c days will not return in mirrorless.
In the early 2000s Nikon also said that they would never make a full-sized sensor. Canon is selling 4 bodies with APS-C sensors. Sony has APS-C sensors. I'd like to see higher resolution though. 26MP is similar to cropping from the 60MP. Fuji has XT-5 @40MP. APS-C always has some advantages, but not for everyone.
EBH
I'm sure this is a nice camera, but it's still a bit of a sad thing that after Nikon all but ditching aps-c, also per Sony, the Nikon D500 aps-c days will not return in mirrorless.
In the early 2000s Nikon also said that they would never make a full-sized sensor. Canon is selling 4 bodies with APS-C sensors. Sony has APS-C sensors. I'd like to see higher resolution though. 26MP is similar to cropping from the 60MP. Fuji has XT-5 @40MP. APS-C always has some advantages, but not for everyone.
EBH
Jul 12, 2023 at 02:24 PM
p.9 #20Official: New Sony A6700 camera with 26MP BSI CMOS sensor
Saw that brand new A7C's are on sale for $1,598...never mind the used market. Personally I'd go that route for a 2nd body to supplement my A1 instead. But get that there are upgrades the A6700 has that would benefit some better than an A7C.
Jul 12, 2023 at 02:35 PM