p.40 #1 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
No on is suggesting manually focusing on birds. It's quite common to have a focus recall set, or a quick MF adjustment to get the lens ~close~ to the focal plane you need to prevent racking. That applies to any sort of body.
You cannot shoot the Z8/Z9 like you shoot a DSLR. They have totally different AF systems and algorithms.
p.40 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
cvrle59 wrote:
Yes, I can confirm the same thing, It does burn battery faster than z7II.
The other thing I noticed after processing first set of files. Z8 files are not as good as z7II.
It's premature, and I don't want to go into details now, but z7II was better on higher ISO, and files were more malleable, especially for deeper crops, and parts in shadows.
In the age of absurd noise reduction software, the differences between the Z7ii and Z8/Z9 in shadow performance are negligible. But yes, if you MUST have the ultimate IQ, the Z7ii is still clearly ahead.
p.40 #3 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
tabishshaikh wrote:
Spending $4000 on a camera and trying to work your way around is not something that I would like to do. There were occasions when I was in a small area af and panning a bird flying parallel to me against foliage and the AF would not lock. Keep in mind the bird was in the dead center of the AF area. I will use my 500f4 VR in the coming week and update my findings.
Spending $4000 and trying to learn how the device works even when given helpful hints also seems to be on your short list "things not to do".
Nothing it perfect, and like all electronics different brands function differently, have to get to know your gear.
p.40 #5 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
I’m keeping my Z7 for this reason (max IQ for slower subjects and landscape). I also like having one tiny body in addition to a gripped body. But the IQ difference is very minimal to my eye versus the Z9. It’s there, but is often swamped by other matters like my own shot discipline and post processing.
RoamingScott wrote:
In the age of absurd noise reduction software, the differences between the Z7ii and Z8/Z9 in shadow performance are negligible. But yes, if you MUST have the ultimate IQ, the Z7ii is still clearly ahead.
p.40 #6 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
tabishshaikh wrote:
On the focusing front, it surely is better than Z72 but I am quite sure my D850 was better for many situations. I consistently was not able to focus a duck or an egret against the background using my 200-500. As it very hot in India these days, I think it's the heat shimmer that's making it happen.
All mirrorless cameras I have used would have trouble with this , background is very busy and the bird is flying towards the camera. If the background were clean , not a problem. Also if the camera is set to focus on the closest subject it should also pick it up , but the bird is pretty small in the frame.
Attached is another example , if the Egret flew up into the busy background full of other egrets the Z8 struggled, but as soon as the background was clear like the photo below , instant lock in the auto modes. If there was more distance between the subject and background it also focuses easier , but I tend to prefocus on the desired distance to help things out with all cameras I own.
on the Z8 I have one function button set to the smallest possible wide-C1 box , for pinpoint focusing and will hand off to 3d tracking once focus is acquired.
NIKON Z 8NIKKOR Z 400mm f/4.5 VR S lens400mmf/4.51/2500s400 ISO0.0 EV
p.40 #7 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
BPsmith511 wrote:
Spending $4000 and trying to learn how the device works even when given helpful hints also seems to be on your short list "things not to do".
Nothing it perfect, and like all electronics different brands function differently, have to get to know your gear.
I always find it interesting that people feel the more money they spend on a body the less time they will need to spend getting the most out of it. When in reality, I feel the opposite is actually true.
p.40 #8 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
Speaking of focus points. Is there a way to quickly enable/disable eye detect besides going into the i menu ? In other words, a one touch solution ?
Gary
p.40 #9 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
Comments like this make me laugh. Clearly, you’ve got to learn how to use your gear.
Dynamic AF is a great alternative - in many occasions.
RoamingScott wrote:
Dynamic sucks, and everyone would do well to take those modes off their camera completely. There's never a time where those are better than anything else.
p.40 #10 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
«Clearly ahead»…..😂.
No doubt that YMMV…..!
RoamingScott wrote:
In the age of absurd noise reduction software, the differences between the Z7ii and Z8/Z9 in shadow performance are negligible. But yes, if you MUST have the ultimate IQ, the Z7ii is still clearly ahead.
p.40 #11 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
Sure, if you waste recall on it.
sum1sgrampa wrote:
Speaking of focus points. Is there a way to quickly enable/disable eye detect besides going into the i menu ? In other words, a one touch solution ?
Gary
p.40 #12 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
RoamingScott wrote:
Sure, if you waste recall on it.
Well, I never felt the need to use recall so I guess that wouldn't be a waste if I set that up. I was more hoping for one of the function buttons as a one touch solution. Thought maybe I might be missing something.
p.40 #13 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
sum1sgrampa wrote:
Speaking of focus points. Is there a way to quickly enable/disable eye detect besides going into the i menu ? In other words, a one touch solution ?
Gary
you can set a button to "recall shooting functions" and for the function select subject detection off
p.40 #15 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
I setup the sub-selector (joystick) press for this on the Z9. Very convenient location since I’m using the joystick to move focus position anyway and if subject detection isn’t helping, easy to just press it straight down to toggle off. Can just as quickly toggle on if conditions change. Also, selected this option because the Z9 has a second joystick on the vertical grip that I setup to mirror the sub-selector function. Muscle memory is a great thing. For the Z8 I might have considered a different button though.
Steve Perry’s Z8 & Z9 book offers a couple of suggestions (including the one I’m using). Some people don’t like it on the joystick because they accidentally press down when moving focus and lose detection. I’ve never had that happen on the Z9.
JustShootMe wrote:
you can set a button to "recall shooting functions" and for the function select subject detection off
p.40 #16 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
woodstork wrote:
I setup the sub-selector (joystick) press for this on the Z9. Very convenient location since I’m using the joystick to move focus position anyway and if subject detection isn’t helping, easy to just press it straight down to toggle off. Can just as quickly toggle on if conditions change. Also, selected this option because the Z9 has a second joystick on the vertical grip that I setup to mirror the sub-selector function. Muscle memory is a great thing. For the Z8 I might have considered a different button though.
Steve Perry’s Z8 & Z9 book offers a couple of suggestions (including the one I’m using). Some people don’t like it on the joystick because they accidentally press down when moving focus and lose detection. I’ve never had that happen on the Z9.
I personally don’t have a toggle for it , I haven’t needed to shut it off yet. Most of my hot keys are set to switch focus modes which have been working well so far. If I have issues , it’s usually me that’s the problem , not being close enough , or not being patient. There’s a million ways to skin a cat it seams.
I do wish you could link the shooting , and custom settings banks so you only had to change it in one place.
p.40 #20 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera!
I read on another site that a photographer set his Z8 to have a button trigger both AF-ON plus Wide small. I have been searching the manual for hours and can’t find that. Can someone help with this please plus explain how it works? Thanks.
