Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
p.52 #1Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
tsdevine wrote:
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.
Karl
Maybe there is an after market opportunity for "skins" for the top of the dial?
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.
Karl Witt wrote
Received my A7RV, lousy weather here in Ohio to shoot! Tinkering indoors, immediately noticed the exposure comp dial does not have any indications on it of exposure for a reference, you need to look in the viewfinder. Been a little spoiled by A7rIII and A1 to be able to glance at Exp Comp setting on the dial. Any reason Sony removed the indicators on the dial??Karl
Maybe there is an after market opportunity for "skins" for the top of the dial?
Dec 25, 2022 at 10:28 AM
p.52 #2Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.
patriot wrote:
tsdevine wrote
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.Karl Witt wrote
Received my A7RV, lousy weather here in Ohio to shoot! Tinkering indoors, immediately noticed the exposure comp dial does not have any indications on it of exposure for a reference, you need to look in the viewfinder. Been a little spoiled by A7rIII and A1 to be able to glance at Exp Comp setting on the dial. Any reason Sony removed the indicators on the dial??Karl
Dec 25, 2022 at 10:36 AM
p.52 #3Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I have my exposure comp dial set for Focus Area on both the A7IV and R5. One reason I like these two cams together every CF button and dial I have setup identical
Dec 25, 2022 at 11:10 AM
p.52 #4Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
tsdevine wrote:
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.
KarlMaybe there is an after market opportunity for "skins" for the top of the dial?
You are correct, there are no hard stops its fully rotational.
Karl
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.
patriot wrote
tsdevine wrote
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.Karl Witt wrote
Received my A7RV, lousy weather here in Ohio to shoot! Tinkering indoors, immediately noticed the exposure comp dial does not have any indications on it of exposure for a reference, you need to look in the viewfinder. Been a little spoiled by A7rIII and A1 to be able to glance at Exp Comp setting on the dial. Any reason Sony removed the indicators on the dial??Karl
You are correct, there are no hard stops its fully rotational.
Karl
Dec 25, 2022 at 11:29 AM
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Canon is not „eating“ into Sonys share, at all. Depending on the continent Sony is constantly growing it’s marketshare 2-5% per year. Canon has lost some won some, but the gains did not come at the expense of Sony.
Your rant about „innovation“ mostly shows one thing: that you are not a working photographer. If you were you’d know we hate nothing more than constantly changing bodies, or vastly different body designs in the same brand. The fact that Sony keeps it „same old“ is actually a huge plus to pros using the brand. But you can’t know that, I understand.
Pinky Boy wrote:
A7C was mostly using the APS-C design, which sadly has that flat wide, not too deep grip
Variety is important moving forward, as for Sony being successful, partly down to being the only serious game in town (full frame), at that time. The A6000 did well too, but that was good marketing the camera is nothing special at all.
Things have moved on. They now have rivals in particular Canon is eating into their share quite dramatically in the last 18 months or so.
Now the APS-C line up is stagnated, badly in need up updating (I'm sure they will do something)
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Your rant about „innovation“ mostly shows one thing: that you are not a working photographer. If you were you’d know we hate nothing more than constantly changing bodies, or vastly different body designs in the same brand. The fact that Sony keeps it „same old“ is actually a huge plus to pros using the brand. But you can’t know that, I understand.
Pinky Boy wrote:
A7C was mostly using the APS-C design, which sadly has that flat wide, not too deep grip
Variety is important moving forward, as for Sony being successful, partly down to being the only serious game in town (full frame), at that time. The A6000 did well too, but that was good marketing the camera is nothing special at all.
Things have moved on. They now have rivals in particular Canon is eating into their share quite dramatically in the last 18 months or so.
Now the APS-C line up is stagnated, badly in need up updating (I'm sure they will do something)
It's...Show more →
Dec 25, 2022 at 02:28 PM
p.52 #6Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Karl Witt wrote:
KarlMaybe there is an after market opportunity for "skins" for the top of the dial?You are correct, there are no hard stops its fully rotational.
Karl
So just a smooth turning dial? I see it still has a lock.
I use the front right wheel under the shutter button when looking through the EVF for this; the top dial to adjust exposure when not looking through EVF. So the numbers in the top dial are useful to me. Guess I'm going to get in the habit of using the rear LCD to see what the top dial is set at.
Maybe Sony's way of starting evolve away from those top dials?
tsdevine wrote
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.patriot wrote
tsdevine wrote
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.Karl Witt wrote
Received my A7RV, lousy weather here in Ohio to shoot! Tinkering indoors, immediately noticed the exposure comp dial does not have any indications on it of exposure for a reference, you need to look in the viewfinder. Been a little spoiled by A7rIII and A1 to be able to glance at Exp Comp setting on the dial. Any reason Sony removed the indicators on the dial??Karl
Karl
So just a smooth turning dial? I see it still has a lock.
I use the front right wheel under the shutter button when looking through the EVF for this; the top dial to adjust exposure when not looking through EVF. So the numbers in the top dial are useful to me. Guess I'm going to get in the habit of using the rear LCD to see what the top dial is set at.
Maybe Sony's way of starting evolve away from those top dials?
Dec 26, 2022 at 07:15 AM
p.52 #7Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
It has stops, just not a hard one.
patriot wrote:
Karl Witt wrote
tsdevine wrote
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.patriot wrote
tsdevine wrote
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.Karl Witt wrote
Received my A7RV, lousy weather here in Ohio to shoot! Tinkering indoors, immediately noticed the exposure comp dial does not have any indications on it of exposure for a reference, you need to look in the viewfinder. Been a little spoiled by A7rIII and A1 to be able to glance at Exp Comp setting on the dial. Any reason Sony removed the indicators on the dial??Karl
Karl
I use the front right wheel under the shutter button when looking through the EVF for this; the top dial to adjust exposure when not looking through EVF. So the numbers in the top dial are useful to me. Guess I'm going to get in the habit of using the rear LCD to see what the top dial is set at.
Maybe Sony's way of starting evolve away from those top dials?
Dec 26, 2022 at 07:22 AM
p.52 #8Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Got it, thanks! So the same as earlier versions. So if you remembered where it was set, you could count the "clicks" without having ti look at the viewfinder. Good to know.
tsdevine wrote:
It has stops, just not a hard one.
Maybe there is an after market opportunity for "skins" for the top of the dial?You are correct, there are no hard stops its fully rotational.
Karl
So just a smooth turning dial? I see it still has a lock.
I use the front right wheel under the shutter button when looking through the EVF for this; the top dial to adjust exposure when not looking through EVF. So the numbers in the top dial are useful to me. Guess I'm going to get in the habit of using the rear LCD to see what the top dial is set at.
Maybe Sony's way of starting evolve away from those top dials?
tsdevine wrote:
It has stops, just not a hard one.
patriot wrote
Karl Witt wrote
tsdevine wrote
Maybe….there are no hard stops in the dial, so I’m not sure if it could become out of sync with the sticker.patriot wrote
tsdevine wrote
I believe the dial can be remapped to something other than exposure compensation.Karl
I use the front right wheel under the shutter button when looking through the EVF for this; the top dial to adjust exposure when not looking through EVF. So the numbers in the top dial are useful to me. Guess I'm going to get in the habit of using the rear LCD to see what the top dial is set at.
Maybe Sony's way of starting evolve away from those top dials?
Dec 26, 2022 at 07:48 AM
p.52 #9Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
How in the world did pros make 6mp work 20 years ago 
Dec 26, 2022 at 08:41 AM
p.52 #10Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
KarmaKramer wrote:
How in the world did pros make 6mp work 20 years ago
Hah make that 2mpx.
But I can't remember the name of it.
Now I did buy the Kodak DCS 460 at 6 mpx but that was a little later. My first cam was 1991
How in the world did pros make 6mp work 20 years ago
Hah make that 2mpx.
But I can't remember the name of it.Now I did buy the Kodak DCS 460 at 6 mpx but that was a little later. My first cam was 1991
Dec 26, 2022 at 09:07 AM
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p.52 #11Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Heck when I started shooting weddings back in 2000 it was a Canon D30 with a whopping 3mp and everyone thought that was the bees knees. I upgraded to a 4mp 1D a year later and everyone was jealous. Moving to 6mp was like other worldly. A pro Nikon body at 12mp seemed truly unreal. And interestingly enough I feel to this day that is a minimum "sweet spot". You can do a heck of a lot with 12mp and some skill. Heck Sony's doing it today.
Dec 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM
p.52 #12Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
dcisive wrote:
Heck when I started shooting weddings back in 2000 it was a Canon D30 with a whopping 3mp and everyone thought that was the bees knees. I upgraded to a 4mp 1D a year later and everyone was jealous. Moving to 6mp was like other worldly. A pro Nikon body at 12mp seemed truly unreal. And interestingly enough I feel to this day that is a minimum "sweet spot". You can do a heck of a lot with 12mp and some skill. Heck Sony's doing it today.
I did not shoot digital ICL as my Main camera until they became 10 MPixels. Until then I used film and Canon G1 (3.2 Mpixels) and G5 (5 Mpixels) with RAW support.
Heck when I started shooting weddings back in 2000 it was a Canon D30 with a whopping 3mp and everyone thought that was the bees knees. I upgraded to a 4mp 1D a year later and everyone was jealous. Moving to 6mp was like other worldly. A pro Nikon body at 12mp seemed truly unreal. And interestingly enough I feel to this day that is a minimum "sweet spot". You can do a heck of a lot with 12mp and some skill. Heck Sony's doing it today.
I did not shoot digital ICL as my Main camera until they became 10 MPixels. Until then I used film and Canon G1 (3.2 Mpixels) and G5 (5 Mpixels) with RAW support.
Dec 26, 2022 at 02:38 PM
p.52 #13Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
I’m know one thing they were absolute shit for a long time.
Dec 26, 2022 at 03:21 PM
p.52 #14Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
dcisive wrote:
Heck when I started shooting weddings back in 2000 it was a Canon D30 with a whopping 3mp and everyone thought that was the bees knees. I upgraded to a 4mp 1D a year later and everyone was jealous. Moving to 6mp was like other worldly. A pro Nikon body at 12mp seemed truly unreal. And interestingly enough I feel to this day that is a minimum "sweet spot". You can do a heck of a lot with 12mp and some skill. Heck Sony's doing it today.
Spot on. I remember shooting a wedding back in 2003 with the 4mp Canon 1D. Shooting that camera at that time was like magic.
Dec 26, 2022 at 03:31 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I’m know one thing they were absolute shit for a long time.
So, you didn't like 6 to 7.5 EV dynamic range, iffy white/color balance, CCD-RAW files, 1.8" LCD and crude processing software?
I’m know one thing they were absolute shit for a long time.
So, you didn't like 6 to 7.5 EV dynamic range, iffy white/color balance, CCD-RAW files, 1.8" LCD and crude processing software?
Dec 26, 2022 at 04:04 PM
p.52 #16Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Oh god the worst software ever. It certainly was a time for the need for serious growth. That Kodak 460 was 23 grand not my money but company I was lead photog
Dec 26, 2022 at 04:45 PM
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I admin, I never played around with pixel shift on my a7R III. My general impression was that it didn't seem to buy you much.
But I decided to shoot a few yesterday when shooting one of the waterfalls I like to photograph. I wasn't expecting much, wasn't sure how it would handle the moving water, long exposure, etc.
But holy moly....cropped to 70% to the right side of the frame. Both sharpened in Topaz Sharpen AI.
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Dec 28, 2022 at 08:56 AM
p.52 #18Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Whoa that is really nice. I have yet to try it either but that certainly can be handy. Is the software better. Last time is when I had the A7rIV which was a a time ago
Dec 28, 2022 at 09:00 AM
p.52 #19Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Meh...I used Imaging Edge.....definitely wouldn't be my first choice (or second, or third...)
GMPhotography wrote:
Whoa that is really nice. I have yet to try it either but that certainly can be handy. Is the software better. Last time is when I had the A7rIV which was a a time ago
Dec 28, 2022 at 09:01 AM
p.52 #20Official: Sony A7R V announced (pre-orders now available)
Have to look in areas that are not moving look up folks at upper right those leaves there.
Dec 28, 2022 at 09:02 AM