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Archive 2021 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*

  
 
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p.87 #1 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


The jewel of Konkan, West coast of India.

Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher - This bird is so tiny, just about the size of a hummingbird or perhaps a tad bigger but it had 4 hungry chicks to feed. It was working tirelessly throughout the day to keep feeding its chicks with a well rounded diet including lizards, skinks, spiders, crabs and crickets.

GBZ_8567 by Ganesh Balakrishnan, on Flickr



Aug 02, 2022 at 08:50 AM
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p.87 #2 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


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Aug 02, 2022 at 02:56 PM
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p.87 #3 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


Couple of shots from this Sunday...double header. Time trial race in the morning and followed by a triathlon...same venue... Yeah, 98% keeper rate. The Z9 didn't miss a single shot in a sequence of shots with riders coming AT me at 25 mph to 30 mph. And backlit sun with swimmers coming out of the water and heading to the transition. The Sigma 70-200 Sport works very well with the Z9 at wide open...










My D500 would have focused on the water instead.

























Aug 02, 2022 at 10:18 PM
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p.87 #4 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


Hi,

Had just arrived to location and an osprey was diving, grabbed my camera out of bag and started shooting. When I first saw these photos after downloading was very disappointed with my settings, normally would shoot an osprey at 1/2500- 1/3200. Was very surprised that about 1/3 of the shots were in focus of the body and eye.

Have been using the Z9 over a month and have been continuously changing focus modes along with anything that could effect focus time. Grabbing that first image quickly in all light conditions is always paramount for me. On this image the camera setting was for alternate focus point, which in manual said it would focus quicker. Just pointing that one setting out and the jury is still out on that for me.

All feedback for focus acquisition are especially appreciated.

Thanks for looking,
rand





Z9. 1/250 f/5.6 ISO 64. Z 100-400MM 4.5-5.6




Aug 03, 2022 at 08:38 AM
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p.87 #5 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


gannis wrote:
The jewel of Konkan, West coast of India.

Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher - This bird is so tiny, just about the size of a hummingbird or perhaps a tad bigger but it had 4 hungry chicks to feed. It was working tirelessly throughout the day to keep feeding its chicks with a well rounded diet including lizards, skinks, spiders, crabs and crickets.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52258826080_09cec74992_k.jpgGBZ_8567 by Ganesh Balakrishnan, on Flickr


Amazing shot!!!



Aug 03, 2022 at 11:18 AM
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p.87 #6 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/200, ISO125
_DSC5071 by eric laquerre, sur Flickr



Aug 03, 2022 at 11:19 AM
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p.87 #7 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*



Thank you so much!
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Amazing shot!!!




Aug 03, 2022 at 12:29 PM
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p.87 #8 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/400, ISO160
wolf cub by eric laquerre, sur Flickr
VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/400, ISO110
angry wolf by eric laquerre, sur Flickr

Edited on Aug 03, 2022 at 04:43 PM · View previous versions



Aug 03, 2022 at 03:47 PM
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p.87 #9 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


gannis wrote:
The jewel of Konkan, West coast of India.

Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher


This one is award worthy.




Aug 03, 2022 at 03:49 PM
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p.87 #10 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/500, ISO160
Cinnamon bear by eric laquerre, sur Flickr



Aug 03, 2022 at 08:59 PM
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p.87 #11 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*



Wow, thank you very much! 🙂
lukemeup wrote:
This one is award worthy.





Aug 04, 2022 at 01:18 AM
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p.87 #12 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/500, ISO360
_DSC4936 by eric laquerre, sur Flickr
VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/2000, ISO1100
_DSC7677 by
VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/500, ISO450
arctic wolf by eric laquerre, sur Flickr
VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/1000, ISO110
moose by eric laquerre, sur Flickr
VR 400mm f/2.8E, 400mm, F2.8, 1/1000, ISO100
moose by eric laquerre, sur Flickr



Aug 04, 2022 at 08:03 AM
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p.87 #13 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


from last week

iso little high 2500

also was very humid

but eyes still in focus

I prefer the school; either low iso, or no shot. There will always be loss of some details when processed for noise.



















Aug 04, 2022 at 11:53 AM
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p.87 #14 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


NissanPatrol wrote:
from last week

iso little high 2500

also was very humid

but eyes still in focus

I prefer the school; either low iso, or no shot. There will always be loss of some details when processed for noise.



Those are nice images but I think your issue there with detail loss has more to do with them being underexposed, which makes noise a lot worse. The Z9 should have no trouble at all at ISOs like 2500.

One thing to keep in mind, with a white bird for example, is the camera is almost always going to underexpose that. Usually you need to add a bit of positive exposure comp for bright/white subjects and a little negative comp for dark/black subjects - the opposite of what may seem intuitive. The camera's meter is going to try and make everything middle grey, though it will assign more emphasis to whatever is under the AF point assuming you're using matrix metering.

It's also really important that you're using a good RAW converter, and I don't know what you like to use, but pretty much everything does a better job that Adobe at the moment.

Here is a shot at ISO 6400 for reference, and it was much darker than it looks:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/n-FxtQz/Birds/i-GLm5g2J/0/0722f647/X4/DSC_0332-NEF_DxO_DeepPRIME-X4.jpg






Aug 04, 2022 at 12:58 PM
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p.87 #15 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


I don't think it's an ISO thing since I have image 10k ISO and more detailed than these.
Z09_9474 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
This is 25,600 ISO
Z09_9486 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
NissanPatrol wrote:
from last week

iso little high 2500

also was very humid

but eyes still in focus

I prefer the school; either low iso, or no shot. There will always be loss of some details when processed for noise.






Aug 04, 2022 at 01:30 PM
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p.87 #16 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


JadedWriter wrote:
I don't think it's an ISO thing since I have image 10k ISO and more detailed than these.





CanadaMark wrote:


Those are nice images but I think your issue there with detail loss has more to do with them being underexposed, which makes noise a lot worse. The Z9 should have no trouble at all at ISOs like 2500.

One thing to keep in mind, with a white bird for example, is the camera is almost always going to underexpose that. Usually you need to add a bit of positive exposure comp for bright/white subjects and a little negative comp for dark/black subjects - the opposite of what may seem intuitive. The camera's meter is going to try and make
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Thanks Jade/Mark for the comment. impressive shots for iso at 10k

It was quite humid, Water was dripping from the lens, also last shot was cropped heavily

I wiped it but water accumulates back quickly.

I feel more confident when the iso below 1000 but could be underexposure as you mentioned.

Philip




Aug 04, 2022 at 02:29 PM
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p.87 #17 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


It's probably the underexposing, and severe cropping, that recipe almost never helps image quality.
NissanPatrol wrote:

Thanks Jade/Mark for the comment. impressive shots for iso at 10k

It was quite humid, Water was dripping from the lens, also last shot was cropped heavily

I wiped it but water accumulates back quickly.

I feel more confident when the iso below 1000 but could be underexposure as you mentioned.

Philip






Aug 04, 2022 at 04:12 PM
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p.87 #18 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


you should not be getting that level of noise at 25k with proper post NR

how heavily was it cropped?



Aug 04, 2022 at 04:14 PM
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p.87 #19 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


sjms wrote:
you should not be getting that level of noise at 25k with proper post NR

how heavily was it cropped?


This is the original. 2.5k









Aug 04, 2022 at 04:29 PM
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p.87 #20 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*


NissanPatrol wrote:
This is the original. 2.5k



there's nothing wrong with your shot. i'm talking about the racoon image.



Aug 04, 2022 at 04:33 PM
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