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p.10 #1Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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When will you copy arrive?
Looking forward to your test.


I've requested a loan copy so I should get it when it starts shipping from B&H Photo.
May 13, 2021 at 08:19 AM
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p.10 #2Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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It may just be my lack of imagination, but my assumption is this lens was created to make astro-shooters pee their pants with excitement, so I suspect their focus is on coma and CA correction and delivering as flat a field as possible at infinity. Other concerns, like close performance and flare, may be secondary. So the zooms may prove to be better all-arounders.


Give the GM designation and the 12-24GM's flare resistance, I think and hope the flare resistance is excellent. And I do think many peed their pants, including me, when this thing was announced
May 13, 2021 at 08:48 AM
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p.10 #3Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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freaklikeme wroteIt may just be my lack of imagination, but my assumption is this lens was created to make astro-shooters pee their pants with excitement, so I suspect their focus is on coma and CA correction and delivering as flat a field as possible at infinity. Other concerns, like close performance and flare, may be secondary. So the zooms may prove to be better all-arounders.
Give the GM designation and the 12-24GM's flare resistance, I think and hope the flare resistance is excellent. And I do think many peed their pants, including me, when this thing was announced


I'm not worried about flare because the 12-24mm is so amazing in this regard. Only lateral CA may be a concern at this point since it's a fast lens. But we will know more soon!
May 13, 2021 at 09:46 AM
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p.10 #4Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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Nisi has their filter adapter on pre-order now, takes the same 150mm system as the 12-24 GM so easy to move or use both with the same filters! I am certainly going to be adding that on.


Good to hear! I have the 150mm system for the 12-24 G, (alas, not GM), so I hope it can be easily adapted to the 14mm.
May 13, 2021 at 11:08 AM
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May 13, 2021 at 12:33 PM
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p.10 #6Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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I also think so, especially regarding sharpness it's hard to beat recent GM and DN zooms.
Jared has nice samples available for download comparing the three:
https://froknowsphoto.com/sony1418/

freaklikeme wroteIt may just be my lack of imagination, but my assumption is this lens was created to make astro-shooters pee their pants with excitement, so I suspect their focus is on coma and CA correction and delivering as flat a field as possible at infinity. Other concerns, like close performance and flare, may be secondary. So the zooms may prove to be better all-arounders.


It looks awfully good, though. Am I missing something, or did he not shoot any samples at f/2.8? It makes it harder to make direct comparisons with the zooms.

The size, weight, and apparent performance certainly make my favorite UWA, the Zeiss ZF Distagon 15/2.8, look like a relic of the past.
May 13, 2021 at 02:53 PM
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p.10 #7Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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NatDeroxL7 wroteNisi has their filter adapter on pre-order now, takes the same 150mm system as the 12-24 GM so easy to move or use both with the same filters! I am certainly going to be adding that on.
Good to hear! I have the 150mm system for the 12-24 G, (alas, not GM), so I hope it can be easily adapted to the 14mm.


They were nice and released the standalone adapter without the kit. I recall it took a while for them to do the same with the 12-24 GM, it was the whole S6 kit or nothing for a couple months.
May 13, 2021 at 03:56 PM
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p.10 #8Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
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dallvr wrote
NatDeroxL7 wroteNisi has their filter adapter on pre-order now, takes the same 150mm system as the 12-24 GM so easy to move or use both with the same filters! I am certainly going to be adding that on.
Good to hear! I have the 150mm system for the 12-24 G, (alas, not GM), so I hope it can be easily adapted to the 14mm.
They were nice and released the standalone adapter without the kit. I recall it took a while for them to do the same with the 12-24 GM, it was the whole S6 kit or nothing for a couple months.


Thanks for the info about the adapter. I'll check it out.
May 14, 2021 at 06:53 AM
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p.10 #9Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
Yep, 2.8 samples are missing AFAIR.

freaklikeme wrote:
j4nu wroteI also think so, especially regarding sharpness it's hard to beat recent GM and DN zooms.
Jared has nice samples available for download comparing the three:
https://froknowsphoto.com/sony1418/

freaklikeme wroteIt may just be my lack of imagination, but my assumption is this lens was created to make astro-shooters pee their pants with excitement, so I suspect their focus is on coma and CA correction and delivering as flat a field as possible at infinity. Other concerns, like close performance and flare, may be secondary. So the zooms may prove to be better all-arounders.
It looks awfully good, though. Am I missing something, or did he not shoot any samples at f/2.8? It makes it harder to make direct comparisons with the zooms.

The size, weight, and apparent performance certainly make my favorite UWA, the Zeiss ZF Distagon 15/2.8, look like a relic of the past.


May 14, 2021 at 06:58 AM
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p.10 #10Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
150mm filters are absolutely gigantic. They are much bigger than even cinema filters. I think I am going to go with rear Haida filters when they eventually come out. A box of rear filters takes up as much space in my bag as a small lens but a Nisi system with 150mm filters takes up a third of my bag.
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p.10 #11Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)

Haida rear filters, unless they've changed, are thicker than others (Kase for example.) This can muck with lens performance towards the corner. (May be minimized depending on how much you stop down.)

This is on the Simga 14-24, I guess it's possible it may act differently on the Sony 14...

https://wild-places.com/2020/01/06/rear-filters-for-sigma-2-8-14-24mm-dg-dn/
May 16, 2021 at 08:38 PM
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p.10 #12Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
I think despite the FC problem due to the thicker filter glass the Haida rear filters are still a good choice. Although I also have a complete set of 150mm front filters I vastly prefer the Haida rear filters for my ultra wide lenses. They are extremely small and light. Two complete sets of them will fit in a single 52mm B+W filter case. Stopped down they are good enough and if I shoot wide open with a wide angle lens it is in almost all cases because I need more light on the sensor (astro, bioluminescence, aurora, glow worms, ...). And in these situations I never use ND filters. I've preordered the 14mm GM and definitely plan to use the Haida filters with this lens.
May 17, 2021 at 12:28 PM
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p.10 #13Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)

I would trust your judgement. I have them, but haven’t used them yet.

Bobu wrote:
I think despite the FC problem due to the thicker filter glass the Haida rear filters are still a good choice. Although I also have a complete set of 150mm front filters I vastly prefer the Haida rear filters for my ultra wide lenses. They are extremely small and light. Two complete sets of them will fit in a single 52mm B+W filter case. Stopped down they are good enough and if I shoot wide open with a wide angle lens it is in almost all cases because I need more light on the sensor (astro, bioluminescence, aurora, glow worms,
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May 17, 2021 at 01:58 PM
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p.10 #14Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
Nice review by Dustin Abbott:

May 17, 2021 at 09:20 PM
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p.10 #15Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
In the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.
May 17, 2021 at 11:31 PM
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p.10 #16Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
The "motion blur" looks like another sign of optimization towards infinity performance to me, e.g. up-close this lens is simply not uniformly sharp across the frame.

mark1958 wrote:
In the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.

May 17, 2021 at 11:47 PM
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p.10 #17Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
I know this lens is not one I would use in too much close up shooting but would like to see more on how often this occurs etc
May 18, 2021 at 01:58 PM
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p.10 #18Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
I wonder if Haida can make one of those rear filters in a grad density for sunrise/sunsets. Would be odd having the fixed plane but I cant see putting the massive filter holder on the outside yet really want the grad
May 19, 2021 at 09:39 AM
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p.10 #19Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
mark1958 wrote:
In the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.


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j4nu wrote:
The "motion blur" looks like another sign of optimization towards infinity performance to me, e.g. up-close this lens is simply not uniformly sharp across the frame.

mark1958 wroteIn the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.


Lens causes "motion blur".
May 19, 2021 at 09:47 AM
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p.10 #20Pre-order: Sony FE 14mm f/1.8 GM ($1,598)
It's "motion blur", not motion blur .
I get what Dustin had on his mind when he said it, sometimes you get this kind of unsharp (but focused) picture which looks like it's been moved but I guess it's a combination of aberrations (or just astigmatism?) in that point of the frame that gives that impression...

Fred Miranda wrote:
mark1958 wroteIn the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.
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j4nu wroteThe "motion blur" looks like another sign of optimization towards infinity performance to me, e.g. up-close this lens is simply not uniformly sharp across the frame.

mark1958 wroteIn the review, the shots with the "motion blur" look is a bit concerning to me. I think it could run some images. I wonder if you take multiple frames if this aberration would show up in all the images at the same spot? The discussion starts at about 20 minutes into the video.
Lens causes "motion blur".


May 19, 2021 at 10:00 AM


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