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Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?

  
 
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p.8 #1 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Fred Miranda wrote:
I just bought the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 ZM and will test it against the Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 Color-Skopar for resolution and rendering.


I did a quick test yesterday at mid-distance (rendering) and I'm surprised by how close these two lenses are in terms of resolution/contrast and rendering. I will do more today. I didn't test them side by side at infinity yet but they are similar there as well.



Dec 10, 2020 at 12:44 PM
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p.8 #2 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


After returning the color skopar, yesterday i bought a Zeiss c biogon 35 2.8, looking forward to read your comparison.


Adriano



Dec 14, 2020 at 08:35 AM
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p.8 #3 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Fred Miranda wrote:
I did a quick test yesterday at mid-distance (rendering) and I'm surprised by how close these two lenses are in terms of resolution/contrast and rendering. I will do more today. I didn't test them side by side at infinity yet but they are similar there as well.


Did you ever carry on with this comparison? I am looking for impressions, though I'm happy to look at images, too.



Jan 26, 2021 at 09:34 AM
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p.8 #4 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Adriancko wrote:
After returning the color skopar, yesterday i bought a Zeiss c biogon 35 2.8, looking forward to read your comparison.

Adriano


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acjeske wrote:
Did you ever carry on with this comparison? I am looking for impressions, though I'm happy to look at images, too.


Yes, I did compared them and forgot to post. Thanks for reminding me. Spoiler alert: They are very similar in terms of resolution and rendering and that was a surprise to me.



Jan 26, 2021 at 11:37 AM
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p.8 #5 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I use this lens with an m10. Its small, sharp and relatively fast, focus ring does feel a bit stiff, but i guess with time it will get better. Cant really do better for the price... some images below with the m10:















and some with the Pana S1, (it suffers from strong corner smearing on the s1):











Jan 27, 2021 at 06:05 PM
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p.8 #6 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I bought this lens based on Fred's review about two months ago. Sold it recently...

For one, the issue with the corners on Sony sensors is REAL. I also found the center behind my 35mm 1.7 Ultron at comparable apertures. I honestly thought they'd be similar but at 2.8 the Ultron was much better.

The bokeh is as described which is very nice but slightly behind the ultron. TBH, it's one of those lenses I'll probably end up buying again (Partly sold it to fund a different FL). I do admit, it was small and fun to shoot with.



Jan 27, 2021 at 07:48 PM
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p.8 #7 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


ReleaseDrive wrote:
I bought this lens based on Fred's review about two months ago. Sold it recently...

For one, the issue with the corners on Sony sensors is REAL. I also found the center behind my 35mm 1.7 Ultron at comparable apertures. I honestly thought they'd be similar but at 2.8 the Ultron was much better.

The bokeh is as described which is very nice but slightly behind the ultron. TBH, it's one of those lenses I'll probably end up buying again (Partly sold it to fund a different FL). I do admit, it was small and fun to shoot with.


I would never use this lens on the Sony sensor. Induced field curvature is crazy. It's night and day on the Leica M sensor.
The 35/1.7 also does not perform well on the Sony sensor, although a bit better than the small 35/2.5.

These lenses are amazing on the Leica sensor though. The 35/1.7 is sharp to the very edges already at f/2.8.



Jan 27, 2021 at 08:47 PM
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p.8 #8 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


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Just looking at their optical designs, they are incredibly similar. Even the aspherical element is in the same place (third from the back).

https://wlpiyg.sn.files.1drv.com/y4mZRlS8MogE6Itxw9q9kc8geWtAOcYbvcqO8Se-ztHcc4s-JZPQpnN7L7fGnUkAXGSHFOejv4vU8fEBy-o2D94knzOw-KbahFlaPErpBE8zTT0-mlWQyyKvx9hzwJ5flx1GfZPVK0sJ25b4L4fvwyjjdAy6aoGySgdV2s1R8gMqM68YTXprdAkEZF1B4NGL9edaGMO46Z1s2WfrACIiTodlQ?width=1000&height=600&cropmode=none


The 7Artisans 35mm f/5.6 looks like a simplified version of this same lens design.





Mar 22, 2021 at 09:18 AM
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p.8 #9 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


just got this lens. Shot a bit yesterday on M10M, noticed some focus shift (toward the distance) especially up close (3-8'). Not a lot, just a bit (say about 3" in 6') but a bit reluctant to shoot wide open unless using live view. Anyone else see this?


Apr 02, 2022 at 07:13 AM
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p.8 #10 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


geoffreyg wrote:
just got this lens. Shot a bit yesterday on M10M, noticed some focus shift (toward the distance) especially up close (3-8'). Not a lot, just a bit (say about 3" in 6') but a bit reluctant to shoot wide open unless using live view. Anyone else see this?


I don't have this issue, mine works perfectly on an m10.





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p.8 #11 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Dave Sanders wrote:
I had the 35/2.5 in LTM in silver. It was a jewel-like little lens and the fit and finish was great. I foolishly sold it along with my CV 75/2.5 LTM...at least I made a Leica M owner very happy



I got the Color-Skopar 35/2.5 LTM earlier this year and am mainly using it on film (Canon P and Leica M2R). Like others I've tried it on Sony but it's not great. On film, though, it's very nice; a few examples here from the Canon P with Ilford XP2 400.

Many of these old LTM Color-Skopars have developed haze nowadays; you have to be careful when purchasing.

Great blue heron by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

River path by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Belvedere in smog by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Aug 13, 2023 at 04:29 PM
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p.8 #12 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?



Split rails


Valley mist

M on M



Aug 13, 2023 at 06:06 PM
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p.8 #13 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I have the Color-Skopar 35/2.5 "Compact" in LTM on my IIIc. Im realy happy with it, as soon as I figure out how to post photos here I'll share some.


Aug 14, 2023 at 03:41 AM
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p.8 #14 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


This was my first lens for my M11. I really like the small size and good image quality.

I've had Zeiss 50mm f2 with M 240 and, in my opinion, it was too neutral. This Color-Skopar does vignet quite heavily, but I think it's more a feature than fault



Aug 16, 2023 at 09:35 AM
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p.8 #15 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Voigtländer Color-Skopar 35mm on Leica IIIC. Tri-X.

353410649_10160758320870768_6594747719091640138_n by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr



Aug 29, 2023 at 04:36 PM
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p.8 #16 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


35/2.5 Color-Skopar LTM, on Leica M2R, Fomapan 400.

Kites by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

In the pines by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Sep 07, 2023 at 12:35 PM
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p.8 #17 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Some really nice photos.

This lens is a great example of why I had and recommend sensor modding. It has no real competition in terms of weight to quality in e-mount. I feel that the ibis on a modded camera make up for the modest aperture of this lens making it a fast lens or more accurately usable in low light.

I really like the Voigtlander Skopar lenses - the recent ones have been great! Cosina please give us a 50mm.



Sep 15, 2023 at 03:38 PM
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p.8 #18 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?




tri_fin wrote:
Some really nice photos.

This lens is a great example of why I had and recommend sensor modding. It has no real competition in terms of weight to quality in e-mount. I feel that the ibis on a modded camera make up for the modest aperture of this lens making it a fast lens or more accurately usable in low light.

I really like the Voigtlander Skopar lenses - the recent ones have been great! Cosina please give us a 50mm.

If I remember rightly there was a 50mm 2.5, quite briefly, not sure why it didn't last.

Gerry



Sep 15, 2023 at 04:26 PM
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p.8 #19 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I am continuing to use this lens along with the 28mm & 90mm skopars. I have really enjoyed it. It somewhat reminds of a vintage lens in terms of tones and texture. I really enjoy the older Leica lens for their tonal ranges - gentle/ soft but yet still having sharpness. But with it being a new lens I have no age related issues and it weighs and costs very little. I have found that I prefer the skopars over the ultrons which I found too harsh in their rendering (excellent otherwise). The 35/2.5 has character wide open and grace when stopped down. I would say it is as interesting as the LLL 35/2 but gains very little attention as it's cheap?

Pigs in the woods by Brendan Pyatt, on Flickr



Oct 05, 2023 at 11:07 AM
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p.8 #20 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Its a great lens!

This lens needs a new housing, even with the same optical formula, I'd be all over it again. Mine got damaged, and I've considered re-purchasing it far too many times... its just a lens from an era where Cosina had more QC issues, so I'm hesitant chancing a bad copy... my original lens wasn't perfect either




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