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Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?

  
 
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Gorgeous.


Thankyou!



Jan 26, 2024 at 04:20 PM
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p.10 #2 · p.10 #2 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?




Jepser wrote:
As far as my short test perfectly usable on the Zf , the 25/4.0 Snapshot-skopar not so much.



About the snapshot 25mm, when you say not so much… I’ve read and seen a red haze but that was a Sony a7r1 or 2. I believe the Nikon has a slimmer sensor stack and a modded cam even slimmer so I’m wonder if maybe it will work. I used a zeiss biogon and that had a deep rear element and it was fine…




Jan 26, 2024 at 05:13 PM
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p.10 #3 · p.10 #3 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Canon P, 35/2.5 Color-Skopar LTM, Ilford Pan-F

Winter flowers by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Jan 27, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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p.10 #4 · p.10 #4 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?



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Jan 27, 2024 at 12:16 PM
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p.10 #5 · p.10 #5 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I posted these in the "recent film shots" thread, but here are a few photos shot on film (HP5+) on Canon P with the Color-Skopar 35/2.5 LTM.

Sun-basking by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

The mermaid by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Foggy morning by Brad Hurley, on Flickr

Curious geese by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Apr 08, 2024 at 12:10 PM
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p.10 #6 · p.10 #6 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Quick question, hope someone can help me.
Any experience using this small little lens on the original A7s Mark 1?
Wanting a very small and compact 35-40mm...



Apr 11, 2024 at 04:43 AM
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p.10 #7 · p.10 #7 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


nampramos wrote:
Quick question, hope someone can help me.
Any experience using this small little lens on the original A7s Mark 1?
Wanting a very small and compact 35-40mm...


I have the LTM version (which is not quite the same as the M-mount version) and it's okay on the original A7s (I used it on that same camera but now use it on film cameras) but I wouldn't say the performance is optimal due to the Sony sensor stack. It's actually okay for street photography though; here's an example on the A7s, but again keep in mind that this is with the LTM version, not the M-mount pancake.

Un hérisson psychédélique by Brad Hurley, on Flickr



Apr 11, 2024 at 09:20 AM
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p.10 #8 · p.10 #8 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I believe the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII was inspired from the Zeiss 35/2.8 Biogon design. Very similar optical designs. Cosina produces both Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses.


Apr 11, 2024 at 09:29 AM
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p.10 #9 · p.10 #9 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Would the optical design be more beneficial towards the Sony sensor stack on the older version or version II?


Apr 11, 2024 at 01:43 PM
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p.10 #10 · p.10 #10 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Did you tried the zm?

Fred Miranda wrote:
I believe the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII was inspired from the Zeiss 35/2.8 Biogon design. Very similar optical designs. Cosina produces both Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses.





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hanay78 wrote:
Did you tried the zm?



Yes, I had the 35/2.8 Biogon for a while and really like it. Same for the 35/2.5 but I never compare them side by side. I prefer shooting with the Voigtlander 35/2 Ultron.



Apr 11, 2024 at 04:18 PM
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p.10 #12 · p.10 #12 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


do you know if the zm is any good with stock sony sensor?

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Yes, I had the 35/2.8 Biogon for a while and really like it. Same for the 35/2.5 but I never compare them side by side. I prefer shooting with the Voigtlander 35/2 Ultron.





Apr 12, 2024 at 07:07 AM
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p.10 #13 · p.10 #13 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


hanay78 wrote:
do you know if the zm is any good with stock sony sensor?



Sorry Hanay, I didn't test it on the Sony but Biogon designs are known to be problematic with thicker sensor stacks.



Apr 12, 2024 at 09:26 AM
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p.10 #14 · p.10 #14 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


tri_fin wrote:
About the snapshot 25mm, when you say not so much… I’ve read and seen a red haze but that was a Sony a7r1 or 2. I believe the Nikon has a slimmer sensor stack and a modded cam even slimmer so I’m wonder if maybe it will work. I used a zeiss biogon and that had a deep rear element and it was fine…



Sorry for late reply. I dont want to derail this thread to much men guess its ok. Here is a quick comparision with the Nikkor 24mm F2.0 AI-s on the Zf. The Voigtländer is very(!) slightly sharper in center and midframe at the same apperture, but corners isnt that great. About I meter, untuched levels and stuff.






Apr 12, 2024 at 11:04 AM
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p.10 #15 · p.10 #15 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


The whole scene with Snapshot-Skopar 25mm @ F8.0

DSC_4400_snapshot_80 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Center at F4.0 to F8.0, Snapshot-Skopar left, Nikkor right.

Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.40.02 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.47.35 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.50.19 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr



Apr 12, 2024 at 11:07 AM
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p.10 #16 · p.10 #16 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Midframish at F4.0 to F8.0, Snapshot-Skopar left, Nikkor right.

Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.41.53 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.48.38 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.51.05 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr



Apr 12, 2024 at 11:11 AM
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p.10 #17 · p.10 #17 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Corner at F4.0 to F8.0, Snapshot-Skopar left, Nikkor right.

Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.42.31 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.48.59 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr


Skärmavbild 2024-04-12 kl. 17.51.50 by Jesper Ericson, on Flickr



Apr 12, 2024 at 11:13 AM
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p.10 #18 · p.10 #18 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


I have this lens and like it for its size and center sharpness, but on my camera (M11), it has strong, and blueish, vignetting. For black and white and some other scenes, it doesn't matter too much to me, but I find it very bothersome on certain images. Stopping down a lot helps with the corner colour cast. The coloured corners have me reconsidering whether I should keep the lens.


Apr 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM
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Even in Leica thin sensor it has issues
Probably it is good in Film!

acalmplace wrote:
I have this lens and like it for its size and center sharpness, but on my camera (M11), it has strong, and blueish, vignetting. For black and white and some other scenes, it doesn't matter too much to me, but I find it very bothersome on certain images. Stopping down a lot helps with the corner colour cast. The coloured corners have me reconsidering whether I should keep the lens.





Apr 12, 2024 at 02:56 PM
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p.10 #20 · p.10 #20 · Any love for the Voigtlander Color-Skopar 35mm F2.5 PII pancake?


Does not look good indeed... shame... thought to get a tiny 35-40mm lens that performs good on Sony thick stack...


Apr 15, 2024 at 08:40 AM
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