EB-1 wrote:
That's wishful thinking, but not realistic. It's not like Canon will sell products well below cost to make some users happy. Even in the 2008-2009 recession Canon did not sell me any 1Ds III bodies for cheap.
EBH
I have as friend with a retail business and is a real horse trader. He was/is always selling something really cheap, at least below suggested msrp. When anybody asks how he could sell so cheap, his standard reply is always, "I can sell below cost because I make it up with volume"!!! LoL
John
From the picture in the Big D ( dallas, texas).... the fall wedding season is going to be crazy at worst.
so many brides moving dates.... shooters in closed groups lining up associate just to cover date that are getting double/tripled booked.
I can see the lessening of covid-19 and the opening of businesses happening by summer. (nope... i am not a doctor or politician )
There will be pro shooters catching up on bills but also flush with money.
Perhaps if Canon does zero percent financing over 5 years that would be doable.
And also bundle with all those freebies mentioned previously as well as 5 year warranty.
At $4K that would be about $67/month. That's too bad and they get their money too. They should do this.
Atlasman2 wrote:
I personally don't see prices falling—if anything, they will most likely rise. Agree... if anything they will make less units for the initial run. But I seriously doubt they are going to come out of the gate on this for less than $2,500-$2,800.
It's hard to identify the stills-centric camera in the speculated Canon mirrorless body roadmap. I think the IS and resolution of the R5 appeal to many here, but stills folks don't want to pay the the premium for the no-crop 8K video capabilities. The R6 is too low res for non-sports enthusiast+ shooters these days and the rumored R3 sounds like it might be overkill in resolution and probably price. A stills-centric R5, for less money than the regular R5, seems like it would be in-demand but is missing. Anything in Canon's existing product offerings that suggests such an R5 variant might come?
robert_in_ca wrote:
Agree... if anything they will make less units for the initial run. But I seriously doubt they are going to come out of the gate on this for less than $2,500-$2,800.
I don’t think that the premium price comes from the 8K video feature. The sensor read-out speed and processing power is also used for the stills aspect of the camera. The R5 is looking like it will be the ultimate hybrid!
zachary.a.p wrote:
It's hard to identify the stills-centric camera in the speculated Canon mirrorless body roadmap. I think the IS and resolution of the R5 appeal to many here, but stills folks don't want to pay the the premium for the no-crop 8K video capabilities. The R6 is too low rest for non-sports enthusiast+ shooters these days and the rumored R3 sounds like it might be overkill in resolution and probably price. A stills-centric R5, for less money than the regular R5, seems like it would be in-demand but is missing. Anything in Canon's existing product offerings that suggests such an R5 variant might come?...Show more →
None of us really know what or how Canon, Sony, Nikon or any other global manufacture is going to adapt to the new world we are now living in. The only thing that is certain is they are ALL going to have to make dramatic changes in some form or fashion in order to survive and recover from this disaster.
Here is a segment of a press release BMW released yesterday when they announced they were extending their plant shut down here in SC until the end of the month.
"The economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic has been far reaching, and customer demand for our product has declined considerably. Stay-at-home orders are still active throughout the country and Mexico, which is adversely affecting our supply chain.
While operations are suspended, BMW Manufacturing will adjust its production volume, shift models and workforce structure to reflect the changing market. The company will continue to monitor the situation and take appropriate action when it is needed."
We all know a BMW is just a couple of dollars more than a 1DXIII or A9II or ..... but this strategic planning is taking place across the globe in every facet of manufacturing.
We have no idea what the landscape is going to look like when the dust settles. In Canon land maybe we'll see the cinema and stills bodies finally becoming the standard as one in the future.
For me personally, I could care less about video and would rather have the option of saving some $$ and possible weight by being able to buy just a stills camera.
But in today's "I gotta have it all and gotta have it now" spec sheet world, I don't see that as ever being an option.
R5 is going to be $3499 with 12 mo 0% financing plus a free roll of toilet paper and a 8 oz bottle of hand sanitizer.
Mark my words.
Sorry peeps.... stills only camera will not cut it unless canon is flush and is selling the other bodies very well.
so lets drop the stills only.... in a video-centric world.... stills way of thinking is looking from the ourtside.
Just calling it like i see it. Nothing personal. Not trying to offend anybody.
The video option is mainly software.... not a mechanical adder.
understand there are heat ramifications to design and battery life.
Balonson wrote:
Perhaps if Canon does zero percent financing over 5 years that would be doable.
And also bundle with all those freebies mentioned previously as well as 5 year warranty.
At $4K that would be about $67/month. That's too bad and they get their money too. They should do this.
I have no Clue why someone would pay a Camera and such in Rates.. You either have the Cash up front and pay for it, or you leave it and use the Camera you already own.. Thats whats wrong big Times with todays Society..
But maybe it's just my old School Mind that im only buying what i can afford.
benCKS wrote:
I have no Clue why someone would pay a Camera and such in Rates.. You either have the Cash up front and pay for it, or you leave it and use the Camera you already own.. Thats whats wrong big Times with todays Society..
But maybe it's just my old School Mind that im only buying what i can afford. Depends. 0% APR is just that.. in the US, as a freelancer who might have a loan out or be incorporated we can take advantage of the loan - stretch-out out the cashflow while being able to depreciate the expense of the equipment off our taxes over a period X of years. For me it would be an advantage to take a loan and reduce my tax burden by writing off the interest (if any) while deprecating the gear.
zachary.a.p wrote:
It's hard to identify the stills-centric camera in the speculated Canon mirrorless body roadmap. I think the IS and resolution of the R5 appeal to many here, but stills folks don't want to pay the the premium for the no-crop 8K video capabilities. The R6 is too low rest for non-sports enthusiast+ shooters these days and the rumored R3 sounds like it might be overkill in resolution and probably price. A stills-centric R5, for less money than the regular R5, seems like it would be in-demand but is missing. Anything in Canon's existing product offerings that suggests such an R5 variant might come?...Show more →
It's too bad that the resolution is crippled to 45MP for the sake of video, but I doubt there will a better quality sensor for high-res stills for quite a while.
benCKS wrote:
I have no Clue why someone would pay a Camera and such in Rates.. You either have the Cash up front and pay for it, or you leave it and use the Camera you already own.. Thats whats wrong big Times with todays Society..
But maybe it's just my old School Mind that im only buying what i can afford.
Well cuz this way the final price is still the same but it's at a rate I can afford to pay per month. And I get to use it now instead of having to wait 2 years to get it.
But I do think given the current economic milieu they should least bundle it with a free R 50 1.2 .
Just received an email from Canon Canada with a link highlighting some additional features and ones we already know
-8K no crop upto 30 FPS internal recording with Dual Pixel AF in all 8K modes.
-Continuous shooting 12 FPS mechanical and 20 fps electronic
-Animal subject tracking body, face, or eyes of cats, dogs and birds
- IBIS + Optical IS
burningheart wrote:
-Animal subject tracking body, face, or eyes of cats, dogs and birds
Oh man... with the current uncertainty of continued income from the virus mess, THAT right there is going to make it extremely difficult on my savings account.
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