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p.62 #1 · p.62 #1 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


Does the lens hood for the 1966 scratches the paint like the one for the Elcan?
Are there knockoffs replacements(with plastic/rubber pins or something) or alternatives?



Sep 17, 2024 at 04:41 AM
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Sonnar-7 wrote:
Does the lens hood for the 1966 scratches the paint like the one for the Elcan?
Are there knockoffs replacements(with plastic/rubber pins or something) or alternatives?


The paint on the '1966' appears more durable than the paint on the 'Elcan' or 8E. My lens shows less pronounced wearing than the other two. That being said, I use the hood less - not because it wouldn't benefit from it, but because it's too large (and I can't use a variable nd with it).



Sep 17, 2024 at 09:27 AM
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p.62 #3 · p.62 #3 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


I think someone was asking for 9E review?

https://www.macfilos.com/2024/09/18/light-lens-labs-new-old-28mm-f-2-8-9e/



Sep 18, 2024 at 04:50 PM
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LightLensLab wrote:
I think someone was asking for 9E review?

https://www.macfilos.com/2024/09/18/light-lens-labs-new-old-28mm-f-2-8-9e/


I am confused. Is this lens from LLL supposed to be f2.8?
If so, why the MTF chart shows an aperture of f/2.0?







Sep 19, 2024 at 08:55 AM
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p.62 #5 · p.62 #5 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


rollei35_warton wrote:
I am confused. Is this lens from LLL supposed to be f2.8?
If so, why the MTF chart shows an aperture of f/2.0?
https://www.macfilos.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Screen-Shot-2024-07-24-at-7.06.08-PM-copy-2_optimized.jpg


maybe its a 'theoretical' f/2



Sep 19, 2024 at 09:01 AM
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p.62 #6 · p.62 #6 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


rollei35_warton wrote:
I am confused. Is this lens from LLL supposed to be f2.8?
If so, why the MTF chart shows an aperture of f/2.0?
https://www.macfilos.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Screen-Shot-2024-07-24-at-7.06.08-PM-copy-2_optimized.jpg


I noticed that too when I read the article. It might be just a typo.



Sep 19, 2024 at 09:44 AM
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p.62 #7 · p.62 #7 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


I should get the LLL 28mm f/2.8 for review soon!


Sep 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM
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ocean2059 wrote:
I noticed that too when I read the article. It might be just a typo.


It is a typo, sorry about that!



Sep 19, 2024 at 07:57 PM
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p.62 #9 · p.62 #9 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


LightLensLab wrote:
It is a typo, sorry about that!


You may want to find a better influencer to review a product next time.
Typo aside, this guy reviewed almost nothing about this lens.

Basically he firstly educated us the history of the lens of this from Leitz, then he quoted bunch of sayings from Zhou and copied/pasted some erroneous MTF charts, finally he threw in a bunch of mediocre pictures before concluding he likes the lens.

It sounds harsh but this kind of review is typically what I call those "seems saying a lot but actually saying nothing" type of platitudes.



Sep 19, 2024 at 08:56 PM
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rollei35_warton wrote:
You may want to find a better influencer to review a product next time.
Typo aside, this guy reviewed almost nothing about this lens.

Basically he firstly educated us the history of the lens of this from Leitz, then he quoted bunch of sayings from Zhou and copied/pasted some erroneous MTF charts, finally he threw in a bunch of mediocre pictures before concluding he likes the lens.

It sounds harsh but this kind of review is typically what I call those "seems saying a lot but actually saying nothing" type of platitudes.


Totally agree. I read the "review" twice and still am not sure about what's special about this lens. It gave me pretty much no reason for me to want to buy (or even try) it. I'm sure there's more to the lens than what's said in this review (at least I hope so). I'm a fan of the LLL 8e and 50f1.2 so I'm really interested in this and the hopefully-soon 35AA.



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p.62 #11 · p.62 #11 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


_jim_ wrote:
The paint on the '1966' appears more durable than the paint on the 'Elcan' or 8E. My lens shows less pronounced wearing than the other two. That being said, I use the hood less - not because it wouldn't benefit from it, but because it's too large (and I can't use a variable nd with it).


Thanks @_jim_ for all those insights, the lens has a glow to it as I believe to see, does it still have it beyond 1.2? Does the other character traits remains to 1.4 and 2?



Sep 20, 2024 at 02:24 PM
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p.62 #12 · p.62 #12 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


LLL Elcan 50mm + M11 (all taken at f/2.0)




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Sep 21, 2024 at 09:26 AM
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p.62 #13 · p.62 #13 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


Did they just post a 35mm APO on their IG story?! 😱


Sep 21, 2024 at 12:50 PM
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instantfoto_ wrote:
Did they just post a 35mm APO on their IG story?! 😱


I saw that too but seems like an odd choice if so. Firstly, their whole ethos has been reviving older optical formulas. Secondly, given how notoriously difficult it is for even Leica to produce the 35 APO, there’s zero chance LLL is going to be able to do it at that level.



Sep 21, 2024 at 01:34 PM
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p.62 #15 · p.62 #15 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


Looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s one thing to replicate a lens that is beyond copyright date, but to copy a current one? Even if they change the optical formula, the external design and hood look too similar.


Sep 21, 2024 at 01:53 PM
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p.62 #16 · p.62 #16 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


LightLensLab wrote:
It will be in production later this year, however we had another priority in terms of 35mm focal length development hence the reason I did not promote the lens until it is set and stone... The said "new" lens announcement will be posted soon however! Excited to hear what you guys think!


LightLensLab wrote:
It will be our first lens that goes the different way than the vintage character...


instantfoto_ wrote:
Did they just post a 35mm APO on their IG story?! 😱


I guess this is what David was talking about in previous posts.



Sep 21, 2024 at 02:22 PM
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p.62 #17 · p.62 #17 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


Legalities aside, I’m excited to see third party manufacturers do close focus (0.3m) lenses like the APO 35mm.


Sep 21, 2024 at 02:57 PM
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p.62 #18 · p.62 #18 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


Is this what I'm thinking it is?







Sep 21, 2024 at 05:03 PM
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p.62 #19 · p.62 #19 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


A close focusing LLL lens! Hopefully they implemented a soft detent at 0.7m


Sep 21, 2024 at 09:28 PM
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p.62 #20 · p.62 #20 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread


spendychucky wrote:
A close focusing LLL lens! Hopefully they implemented a soft detent at 0.7m


I actually hate the soft detent-

IF you focus near the detent, its a nuisance IMO-

I can see when the RF is no longer coupled and would prefer this not to be on the lens-

That me though, others many feel differently-



Sep 21, 2024 at 10:38 PM
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