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p.61 #1 · p.61 #1 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

To be fair, the original one didn’t work w the M5 either for the same reasons.

Aug 28, 2024 at 11:22 AM

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p.61 #2 · p.61 #2 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Desmolicious wrote:
To be fair, the original one didn’t work w the M5 either for the same reasons.

Yes, I believe it's a replica of the Elmarit 9-E, version 1, with the same compatibility restrictions.

Aug 28, 2024 at 11:22 AM

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p.61 #3 · p.61 #3 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

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Yes, I believe it's a replica of the Elmarit 9-E, version 1, with the same compatibility restrictions.

Just out of curiosity, what's the reason behind the incompatibility? I assume it's the design/restriction of the M5 body, somehow?

Aug 28, 2024 at 11:30 AM

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p.61 #4 · p.61 #4 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

darkspark_ wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what's the reason behind the incompatibility? I assume it's the design/restriction of the M5 body, somehow?

Rear element intrusion into body can damage lightmeter in the M5.

Aug 28, 2024 at 11:46 AM

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p.61 #5 · p.61 #5 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

BPsmith511 wrote:
Rear element intrusion into the body can damage the light meter in the M5.

Exactly, the rear element will be blocking the light meter arms of the M5/CL. Thus, the lens will be incompatible with M5/CL.

Other M body wise, I have used the prototype on M2/M4/MP and M9/M240/M10/M11 without any issues with sensor/shutter compatibility.

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Aug 28, 2024 at 03:31 PM

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p.61 #6 · p.61 #6 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Aug 31, 2024 at 11:53 AM

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p.61 #7 · p.61 #7 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Although I love the current Leica 35/1.4 Lux, the Leica 35mm f/1.4 AA was the most exciting announcement I've seen from LLL. Unfortunately, it seems to be on the back burner at the moment. That's a lens I would love to review.

https://lightlenslab.co/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-35mm-f-1-4-asph-11873-in-design

Aug 31, 2024 at 12:00 PM

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Exactly, the rear element will be blocking the light meter arms of the M6/CL. Thus, the lens will be incompatible with M5/CL.

Other M body wise, I have used the prototype on M2/M4/MP and M9/M240/M10/M11 without any issues with sensor/shutter compatibility.

First sentence you wrote M6/CL instead of M5/CL that you wrote in the second sentence.

Aug 31, 2024 at 01:06 PM

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p.61 #9 · p.61 #9 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Desmolicious wrote:
First sentence you wrote M6/CL instead of M5/CL that you wrote in the second sentence.

Ahh sorry about that

Aug 31, 2024 at 01:21 PM

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p.61 #10 · p.61 #10 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Fred Miranda wrote:
Although I love the current Leica 35/1.4 Lux, the Leica 35mm f/1.4 AA was the most exciting announcement I've seen from LLL. Unfortunately, it seems to be on the back burner at the moment. That's a lens I would love to review.

https://lightlenslab.co/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-35mm-f-1-4-asph-11873-in-design

There will be another announcement before the 11873 that I think it will explain a lot of situations about the 11873. I think this said lens will change the scene/game in Leica Photography.

Aug 31, 2024 at 01:23 PM

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p.61 #11 · p.61 #11 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Fred Miranda wrote:
Although I love the current Leica 35/1.4 Lux, the Leica 35mm f/1.4 AA was the most exciting announcement I've seen from LLL. Unfortunately, it seems to be on the back burner at the moment. That's a lens I would love to review.

https://lightlenslab.co/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-35mm-f-1-4-asph-11873-in-design

How does it compare to the Steel Rim that was toping the CV 35mm 1.4 in rendering even though similar?

The announcement of the S21 by LLL had me thrilled too, I wish they would do a Summilux pre-Asph but that Angenieux looks interesting.

Aug 31, 2024 at 02:34 PM

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p.61 #12 · p.61 #12 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Sonnar-7 wrote:
How does it compare to the Steel Rim that was toping the CV 35mm 1.4 in rendering even though similar?

The announcement of the S21 by LLL had me thrilled too, I wish they would do a Summilux pre-Asph but that Angenieux looks interesting.

The Leica 35mm f/1.4 Lux ASPH and the pre-ASPH versions have distinctly different looks. The ASPH version offers high contrast and excellent resolution with some character in the rendering, including noticeable outlining in specular highlights. This effect is even more pronounced in the double aspherical model.

The pre-ASPH versions, including the steel rim and Voigtlander Nokton, offer a less corrected, classic look. These lenses produce significant spherical aberration, especially the Leica, veiling flare, and a very distinctive rendering. I can easily identify images produced by these lenses.

The double aspherical version is a very limited edition and has become quite rare. This is why I believe it would be a fantastic opportunity for LLL to revive it. It was exciting to see its development a year ago. If priced appropriately, it could become their best seller.

Aug 31, 2024 at 04:22 PM

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p.61 #13 · p.61 #13 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

New URL

www.lightlenslab.com

Sep 05, 2024 at 08:58 PM

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LightLensLab wrote:
New URL

www.lightlenslab.com

Easier to find now!

Sep 05, 2024 at 09:25 PM

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p.61 #15 · p.61 #15 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

LightLensLab wrote:
Exactly, the rear element will be blocking the light meter arms of the M5/CL. Thus, the lens will be incompatible with M5/CL.

Other M body wise, I have used the prototype on M2/M4/MP and M9/M240/M10/M11 without any issues with sensor/shutter compatibility.

For the non-BSI sensor M cameras, for example the M240 I have, is there any edge color shift (also called 'Italian flag') caused by this lens due to its rear element sitting much closer to the sensor than modern, digital optimized designs?

Sep 05, 2024 at 09:26 PM

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p.61 #16 · p.61 #16 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

LightLensLab wrote:
There will be another announcement before the 11873 that I think it will explain a lot of situations about the 11873. I think this said lens will change the scene/game in Leica Photography.

I wonder what that could mean. If it’s the S21, I guess it could draw more videographers, amongst whom “dirty frames” are trending. Hence the series of S21 lenses.

I’ll wait patiently for the Double Aspherical. 😁

Sep 07, 2024 at 09:54 AM

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p.61 #17 · p.61 #17 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

raizans wrote:
I wonder what that could mean. If it’s the S21, I guess it could draw more videographers, amongst whom “dirty frames” are trending. Hence the series of S21 lenses.

I’ll wait patiently for the Double Aspherical. 😁

On page 60, post 2 and then further down, David intimates that the new/secret/non-double-ashperical lens is a 35mm with a non-vintage character. Whatever that may be...I'm excited.

Sep 07, 2024 at 11:12 AM

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p.61 #18 · p.61 #18 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

rscheffler wrote:
For the non-BSI sensor M cameras, for example the M240 I have, is there any edge color shift (also called 'Italian flag') caused by this lens due to its rear element sitting much closer to the sensor than modern, digital optimized designs?

Hey! So the rear element has been moved 1~2mm forward in comparison to the original Nine Element, there are several steps that were taken to ensure the color shift will not occur on all digital sensor.

There will be more detailed information on this part with an upcoming review with Macfilos!

Sep 07, 2024 at 12:10 PM

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p.61 #19 · p.61 #19 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

_jim_ wrote:
On page 60, post 2 and then further down, David intimates that the new/secret/non-double-ashperical lens is a 35mm with a non-vintage character. Whatever that may be...I'm excited.

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that! Very interesting, maybe a 35mm Noctilux?

Sep 07, 2024 at 02:29 PM

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p.61 #20 · p.61 #20 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Has anyone seen any review (written or video) of the 28mm 9e? I'm interested in preordering but still waiting to see some reviews on its rendering and handling first.

Sep 07, 2024 at 10:17 PM

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