p.11 #1 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Hugh Brownstone remarked in this video
that the camera will allow you to edit the image when and where you shot it. It made me think of the image I have, still sitting on my hard drive unedited, of a building interior I took at night with my RX1, while waiting for a concert to begin. It's unedited because the artificial lighting makes it hard to match the colour. I keep meaning to do some trial edits and put them on my phone to carry back there to check the colours, and never get around to it. Of course, because it was before a concert time was limited and I might not have been able to get the colour editing done at the time anyway.
p.11 #3 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
melcat wrote:
Hugh Brownstone remarked in this video
that the camera will allow you to edit the image when and where you shot it. It made me think of the image I have, still sitting on my hard drive unedited, of a building interior I took at night with my RX1, while waiting for a concert to begin. It's unedited because the artificial lighting makes it hard to match the colour. I keep meaning to do some trial edits and put them on my phone to carry back there to check the colours, and never get around to it. Of course, because it was before a concert time was limited and I might not have been able to get the colour editing done at the time anyway....Show more →
My take on this is: Zeiss put the LR there for quick RAW edits and share, atleast you have decent quality output to .jpgs
It's not meant for high end editing. Who does high editing on a small screen? you still need your high end desktop or Mac Pros.
and I think this will be the norm from now on., Imagine canon putting in their light CANON DPP software on all Canon DSLRs and Mirrorless plus SSD drive. or SSD plus the card slots.
p.11 #7 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Fred Miranda wrote:
Dave, I think this may work how it currently works with the A7 series and the Lightroom CC Mobile app.
You don't need a subscription in order to edit your images but if you want to upload it to the cloud, there will be a charge.
With my A7RIII, I can take a picture, press a custom button in playback mode and send the image to my phone. The Lightroom CC mobile app is free and can be used to edit the image. Once I am done post-processing it, the resulting image can be saved or shared elsewhere.
The issue is that the image format sent to my phone is the original jpeg instead of RAW. That will be advantage of editing in camera (ZX1). Having said that, if the final output is Instagram or Facebook, I don't think RAW vs Jpeg may be crucial....Show more →
Thanks Fred; that makes sense.
I just bite the bullet and went with the monthly LR subscription so I am still figuring the CC Mobile component out.
p.11 #8 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
The more I think about the ZX1 I am appreciating what they are doing more.
The camera is not ready for prime time or will sell in great numbers at the rumored approximately $4,500.
But it is a sign of things to come which we have all bemoaned about not having a reliable way to send our images like our phones can.
When the price and size comes down I think most would like to have these capabilities and most liely we will.
I think a key component will be better and more refined automatic functions in LR since editing on a small LCD is not an exact science but to be able to get it pretty close to being a well edited image to send to wherever.
As of right now it is no different than any trail breaking product, too large, too expensive ahead of its time and not refined yet but you have to start somewhere and who would have thought of all people this would come from Zeiss.
p.11 #9 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
melcat wrote:
Hugh Brownstone remarked in this video
that the camera will allow you to edit the image when and where you shot it. It made me think of the image I have, still sitting on my hard drive unedited, of a building interior I took at night with my RX1, while waiting for a concert to begin. It's unedited because the artificial lighting makes it hard to match the colour. I keep meaning to do some trial edits and put them on my phone to carry back there to check the colours, and never get around to it. Of course, because it was before a concert time was limited and I might not have been able to get the colour editing done at the time anyway....Show more →
I don't know what Hugh was drinking when he made this clip. I always respected his opinion but not this time. Who wants a expensive camera to shoot 37mp raws to upload a jpeg to instagram or Facebook? No card slots? Only able to upload when you have wifi? Ugly, minimal adjustments without going to the touchscreen? Ok, if it's image quality is ultra phenomenal maybe it's a contender to the Sony or Leica, but the whole combination, I just don't understand. Sending images to my iPhone is so easy for processing and uploading, I just don't see the point of this. To each his own, but I just don't get it.
p.11 #10 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
As an owner/user of the Sony RX1RM2, I'm intrigued by this Zeiss ZX1 camera.
A couple of questions:
- does anyone have any idea why they chose the Sigma flash protocol?
- could that perhaps have anything to do with the design of the camera, taking obvious design clues from and being so clearly reminiscent of the Quattro’s?
- I'm still trying to get my head around the idea that posting to Facebook or Instagram directly from this camera would actually be more convenient than using for example the new Leica app on a smart device?
- why would Zeiss design their own sensor if they supposedly can get it relatively easy from their partner Sony? What could be behind this?
- Would the lens perhaps have special sensor-design requirements, like micro lenses? And who is going to make this sensor for them?
A couple of worries:
- how warm/hot will the camera electronics become if you come back after a day's shooting and start uploading, say for example 40 Gb’s? That could take quite some time if you're connected to a the hotel Wi-Fi, which quite often is rather slow and unstable.
- how easy is it going to be to apply exposure compensation during shooting?
- and then of course there is price, ruggedness of the camera and the fact that 37 MP will undoubtedly be quite enough for a lot of applications, but it won't be anything to write home about in 2019.
p.11 #11 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
melcat wrote:
Hugh Brownstone remarked in this video
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that the camera will allow you to edit the image when and where you shot it. It made me think of the image I have, still sitting on my hard drive unedited, of a building interior I took at night with my RX1, while waiting for a concert to begin. It's unedited because the artificial lighting makes it hard to match the colour. I keep meaning to do some trial edits and put them on my phone to carry back there to check the colours, and never get around to it. Of course, because it was before a concert time was limited and I might not have been able to get the colour editing done at the time anyway....Show more →
Shoot, Edit and Share can do that right now with your RX1RII or A7/A9 series and a smartphone. And with a much better and bigger screen.
Images can be transferred using "direct" camera to phone WIFI and editing can be done anywhere using the same 'and free' Lightroom CC app. The main difference is that you will be editing the full JPEG image(s) instead of the RAWs but for social media sharing, I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference.
p.11 #12 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
All this squawking about only 1 card slot...this camera with none. Will it be a $1000 send in if the memory fails. What happens with 3 year old camera and the memory is no longer produced?
p.11 #13 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
It becomes expensive junk. SSDs have become extremely reliable. I don’t think that a lot would fail. But it could happen. Unlikely that the memory would not be available.
mogul wrote:
All this squawking about only 1 card slot...this camera with none. Will it be a $1000 send in if the memory fails. What happens with 3 year old camera and the memory is no longer produced?
p.11 #14 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
Fred Miranda wrote:
Shoot, Edit and Share can do that right now with your RX1RII or A7/A9 series and a smartphone. And with a much better and bigger screen.
Images can be transferred using "direct" camera to phone WIFI and editing can be done anywhere using the same 'and free' Lightroom CC app. The main difference is that you will be editing the full JPEG image(s) instead of the RAWs but for social media sharing, I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference.
A firmware update from Sony could easily enable wifi upload of raw files to your phone or tablet. It should be a standard option on a menu already but I can't find it.
I'm trying to be open minded about this Zeiss camera but just don't see a purpose for it over an iPhone (for Facebook, Instagram) or Sony, Fuji, Leica cameras that already exist with much better options and specs and less limitations. I wonder how long it will take to upload 100+ gigs of images from the camera when you're out for the day and stop for lunch at a cafe that offers wifi? I travel constantly and using hotel, cafe or public wifi is dreadfully slow at best. Maybe it will let you select the few you want and back up the rest when you get to your computer or other portable storage device? Using SD cards seems way more simple. Kind of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist IMO. It's great to have more competition for sure, but maybe Zeiss should stick to making great optics and leave the cameras to Sony, Nikon, Leica etc... I wish them the best but I'm puzzled.
p.11 #15 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
stevesanacore wrote:
A firmware update from Sony could easily enable wifi upload of raw files to your phone or tablet. It should be a standard option on a menu already but I can't find it.
I'm trying to be open minded about this Zeiss camera but just don't see a purpose for it over an iPhone (for Facebook, Instagram) or Sony, Fuji, Leica cameras that already exist with much better options and specs and less limitations. I wonder how long it will take to upload 100+ gigs of images from the camera when you're out for the day and stop for lunch at a cafe that offers wifi? I travel constantly and using hotel, cafe or public wifi is dreadfully slow at best. Maybe it will let you select the few you want and back up the rest when you get to your computer or other portable storage device? Using SD cards seems way more simple. Kind of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist IMO. It's great to have more competition for sure, but maybe Zeiss should stick to making great optics and leave the cameras to Sony, Nikon, Leica etc... I wish them the best but I'm puzzled....Show more →
Sony cameras support the upload of any file type, including raws and videos, although the current implementation requires you to enter into a mode to do so (isn't done passively/in the background). My aIrnef supports this for transferring files to computers.
p.11 #16 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
stevesanacore wrote:
A firmware update from Sony could easily enable wifi upload of raw files to your phone or tablet. It should be a standard option on a menu already but I can't find it.
I'm trying to be open minded about this Zeiss camera but just don't see a purpose for it over an iPhone (for Facebook, Instagram) or Sony, Fuji, Leica cameras that already exist with much better options and specs and less limitations. I wonder how long it will take to upload 100+ gigs of images from the camera when you're out for the day and stop for lunch at a cafe that offers wifi? I travel constantly and using hotel, cafe or public wifi is dreadfully slow at best. Maybe it will let you select the few you want and back up the rest when you get to your computer or other portable storage device? Using SD cards seems way more simple. Kind of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist IMO. It's great to have more competition for sure, but maybe Zeiss should stick to making great optics and leave the cameras to Sony, Nikon, Leica etc... I wish them the best but I'm puzzled....Show more →
Even to get the full JPEG file size (Not a JPEG preview from RAW) uploaded to your smart device, one must have File Format: RAW & JPEG selected.
p.11 #17 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
stevesanacore wrote:
A firmware update from Sony could easily enable wifi upload of raw files to your phone or tablet. It should be a standard option on a menu already but I can't find it.
I'm trying to be open minded about this Zeiss camera but just don't see a purpose for it over an iPhone (for Facebook, Instagram) or Sony, Fuji, Leica cameras that already exist with much better options and specs and less limitations. I wonder how long it will take to upload 100+ gigs of images from the camera when you're out for the day and stop for lunch at a cafe that offers wifi? I travel constantly and using hotel, cafe or public wifi is dreadfully slow at best. Maybe it will let you select the few you want and back up the rest when you get to your computer or other portable storage device? Using SD cards seems way more simple. Kind of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist IMO. It's great to have more competition for sure, but maybe Zeiss should stick to making great optics and leave the cameras to Sony, Nikon, Leica etc... I wish them the best but I'm puzzled....Show more →
Future cellphone connectivity speeds will equal today's landline speeds. The Zeiss promotional video rivals the camera's spec. sheet in that it is long on young, hip style and short on specifics. This is probably the first serious camera that isn't aimed at those that have some experience with film and early digital, but those that live their life with their central player being their cellphone. That said, the size, weight and probably price go completely counter to everything I just said, so I think that this will be a hard sell all the way around.
p.11 #19 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
bwcolor wrote:
This is probably the first serious camera that isn't aimed at those that have some experience with film and early digital, but those that live their life with their central player being their cellphone.
Every time I think about how stupid some product or other appears to be, I have to stop and remind myself that it appears stupid to me because I'm not a member of the target demographic group and the product is not intended to appeal to me.
Unfortunately, that certainly appears to be the case with the ZX1 and is true on both counts. <shrugs>
p.11 #20 · In-Stock: 37MP Zeiss ZX1 full frame camera
What are you talking about?
Frogfish wrote:
I had a play with this today whilst buying my A9
It feels gorgeous in the hand (with 24-70/4 attached) and I love the screen and EVF. Size (noticeabley bigger than Sonys but not too large) and Grip feel great. AF is sluggish but if I was using Nikon I'd have no problem buying this. However as a Sony user there is no way I'd switch just for this, the A9 kills it and even my A7rii betters the AF though I have better lenses than that Nikon 24-70.
