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p.5 #1 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


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It might take me a while to get hard cause I just got laid by some chick.


You got the 35G again?? Or is this shot from last year 😈



Apr 03, 2017 at 08:31 AM
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p.5 #2 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


Max Power wrote:
A lot of people chose the Sigma because of price, and to be fair, I have seen some amazing images through them.

I am a little confused about the frequent use of the term "rendering". I always kinda thought it meant overall feel to the final output, but I see descriptions used like "nervous rendoring" and I guess maybe I dont have any real idea what that means. I see great images in this thread as well as the Sigma thread as well, can somebidy give me a better idea of what they mean by rendering?


The problem is that for that term a commonly agreed definition doesn't exist. So I can only tell you what I mean when I use it. It's how the lens "draws" the picture. It's nothing you can put your finger on, more like a subjective perception about how the images taken with a lens look. I had the Sigma Art and exchanged it for the 35G, because I liked the 35G's rendering better, the Sigma images surely were nice and sharp and had less CA, but they looked - for lack of a better term - "clinical" to me.

Measurable lens differences are sharpness across the frame, CAs and distortion, of course these also contribute to the overall "rendering" of the lens. It's just that pictures taken with certain lenses (the 200 f/2 springs to mind) have a "desirable quality" that can't be measured, thus we use the term rendering.

About the "nervous" part, that is clearly visible. This refers to the quality of the background blur, and is often found in cheaper and older lens designs. The bokeh balls seem to have a rim (or "outline") to them (also called "onion-bokeh"). This leads to the OOF backgrounds looking, well, "nervous" instead of creamy, smooth, buttery, however you name it. Here's an example of mine with a nervous background, or another one.

Now "nervous" bokeh is not bad per se and can be used as a creative tool. In the second shot I linked, I used it deliberately. Older russian lenses with nervous bokeh have become quite the fashion recently, look here for an example.

Opposed to that, for portraits often "smooth", "creamy" or "buttery" bokeh is desired, because it separates the subject from the background without drawing attention to the background. Look e.g. here or here for examples of pictures with a smooth background, although there's a lot of details in the background. That's due to the lens rendering the backround differently, so you don't get a mix of outlined bokeh balls, instead the colors seem to blend together and create smooth areas.

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Apr 03, 2017 at 10:39 AM
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Bohemien wrote:
The problem is that for that term a commonly agreed definition doesn't exist. So I can only tell you what I mean when I use it. It's how the lens "draws" the picture. It's nothing you can put your finger on, more like a subjective perception about how the images taken with a lens look. I had the Sigma Art and exchanged it for the 35G, because I liked the 35G's rendering better, the Sigma images surely were nice and sharp and had less CA, but they looked - for lack of a better term - "clinical" to me.

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OK, that is a fair explanation. In just about every case where people have issues with the bokeh, I have seen them refer to it as that specifically, rather than the larger category of rendering, which seems to cover much more than just bokeh. If you had stated nervous bokeh, I would have had no doubt what you were saying. Applying that specific description to a more conceptual term is what threw me a little.

I guess the confusing part to me in the past is that the term rendering often gets used as if it were a measurable, like when someone says "a Zeiss lens has unmatched rendering, that's a proven fact", when in all reality, rendering is very subjective and very much a personal taste.




Apr 03, 2017 at 12:47 PM
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p.5 #7 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


A little comparison between 24mm f/1.4G and 35mm f/1.4G...












Apr 10, 2017 at 07:01 PM
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^Both look great, but I prefer the perspective of the 35 over the 24.


Apr 10, 2017 at 07:34 PM
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jrscls wrote:
^Both look great, but I prefer the perspective of the 35 over the 24.


I agree.

For portraits I find the 35mm focal is more flattering. That's the widest I would go for a straight portrait.

The 24mm would however be my choice for an environmental portrait where the subject is part of an overall story about a location or a group. Elijah's images in the 24mm thread are good examples where the wider angle works beautifully.



Apr 10, 2017 at 07:40 PM
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Apart from perspective differences, the two lenses render remarkably similar. The 24 has an amazing bokeh considered its focal length.


Apr 11, 2017 at 01:03 AM
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Bohemien wrote:
Apart from perspective differences, the two lenses render remarkably similar. The 24 has an amazing bokeh considered its focal length.


Looking at Elijah pictures, I agree with your observation. I have been seeing some great deals on the b&s forum on the 35G but so far have resisted the urge to purchase since I am happy with the 24G and enjoy the light weight of having just 2 lenses (24 & 58). I just need to stop looking at this thread 😁.



Apr 11, 2017 at 10:13 AM
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khoido77 wrote:
I have been seeing some great deals on the b&s forum on the 35G but so far have resisted the urge to purchase since I am happy with the 24G and enjoy the light weight of having just 2 lenses (24 & 58). I just need to stop looking at this thread 😁.


Too late for me, I succumbed.
I agree with you that the 24-58 is a great 2 lens combo. Turns out the 35 is a fantastic 1 lens option.



Apr 11, 2017 at 11:04 AM
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gpelpel wrote:
Too late for me, I succumbed.
I agree with you that the 24-58 is a great 2 lens combo. Turns out the 35 is a fantastic 1 lens option.


I tried that 1 lens route with the Sigma 35A but it wasn't for me.



Apr 11, 2017 at 03:19 PM
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p.5 #14 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


jrscls wrote:
^Both look great, but I prefer the perspective of the 35 over the 24.


Ditto!
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gpelpel wrote:
I agree.

For portraits I find the 35mm focal is more flattering. That's the widest I would go for a straight portrait.

The 24mm would however be my choice for an environmental portrait where the subject is part of an overall story about a location or a group. Elijah's images in the 24mm thread are good examples where the wider angle works beautifully.


I do prefer the 35G over the 24G. This was just an example on bokeh differences. I definitely reach for the 35 more than the 24G, simply because of perspective distortion.
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Bohemien wrote:
Apart from perspective differences, the two lenses render remarkably similar. The 24 has an amazing bokeh considered its focal length.


I love the bokeh better on the 24G, too bad it's got too much perspective distortion for portraiture
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khoido77 wrote:
Looking at Elijah pictures, I agree with your observation. I have been seeing some great deals on the b&s forum on the 35G but so far have resisted the urge to purchase since I am happy with the 24G and enjoy the light weight of having just 2 lenses (24 & 58). I just need to stop looking at this thread 😁.


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gpelpel wrote:
Too late for me, I succumbed.
I agree with you that the 24-58 is a great 2 lens combo. Turns out the 35 is a fantastic 1 lens option.


It's either a 35G or 24G + 58G. In fact, I rolled with 28G 58G for a while, that works too. It's just that sometimes that 1-2% of the wedding requires something wider like 20-24mm so I switched to 24, 35, 58 (that's AFTER I sold the 24-70mm)



Apr 11, 2017 at 03:27 PM
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Elijah wrote:


Fantastic. Having a pretty subject sure helps Great lens, love mine.



Apr 11, 2017 at 08:27 PM
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Sisters!







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Apr 19, 2017 at 04:32 PM
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p.5 #19 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


I have really enjoyed this thread. The 35mm focal length is probably my favorite. I am currently shooting with a D500 so I will be looking into the 24mm f1.4 or, more likely, the 24mm f1.8.

I currently use the 17-55mm f2.8G ED on the D500 but after looking through the metadata that Lightroom provides, have found that 24mm (36mm equiv) is by far my most often used focal length.

I hope more posts are to come. :-)



Apr 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM
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p.5 #20 · Nikon 35mm f/1.4G Image Thread


One of my favourite photos taken with the 35G wide open (had to manually focus as the light was too low for AF) on D800e

https://photos.smugmug.com/Music/Record-Producers/Stephen-Watkins/i-RgdjBxV/2/XL/stephen-watkins-tape-studios---6264-XL.jpg


I'm going to buy myself another copy as soon as I can afford it!
Cheers
Mike



Apr 22, 2017 at 01:20 AM
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