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Archive 2016Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
p.25 #1Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I can resist the 24-70 as I prefer small primes in that range.
I can resist the 85mm GM as I really like my 85mm Batis.
....but if that d*mn 70-200 2.8 comes out and gets the same kind of reviews this 24-70 is getting, I'm not sure I'll be able to resist lighting up the B & S boards with some remaining Canon gear and putting in an order for one....
I can resist the 85mm GM as I really like my 85mm Batis.
....but if that d*mn 70-200 2.8 comes out and gets the same kind of reviews this 24-70 is getting, I'm not sure I'll be able to resist lighting up the B & S boards with some remaining Canon gear and putting in an order for one....
Apr 07, 2016 at 01:03 PM
p.25 #2Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I shouldn't have read this thread!
Apr 07, 2016 at 01:45 PM
p.25 #3Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Heck I helped and it's going to cost me more money. Lol
sidd wrote:
I shouldn't have read this thread!
Apr 07, 2016 at 01:47 PM
p.25 #4Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
GMPhotography wrote:
50 is very good as well but again I think I would prefer the Loxia 50 but I don't want anyone to get that comment wrong this is just me being very anal about this stuff and Fred seems the same way .
I also agree on the 70 as it really jumped big time from 2.8 to F4 in center and corners need to be stopped down. Even though it very good at these setting its the weaker focal length. For me I would be reaching for my GM 85 here anyway. Interesting the shot at 70mm at 4.5...Show more →
This is interesting.
GM24-70 and GM85?
But for almost exactly the same cost: B25/L50/GM85.
For just a little more, L21/L50/GM85.
Too many choices ...
50 is very good as well but again I think I would prefer the Loxia 50 but I don't want anyone to get that comment wrong this is just me being very anal about this stuff and Fred seems the same way .
I also agree on the 70 as it really jumped big time from 2.8 to F4 in center and corners need to be stopped down. Even though it very good at these setting its the weaker focal length. For me I would be reaching for my GM 85 here anyway. Interesting the shot at 70mm at 4.5...Show more →
This is interesting.
GM24-70 and GM85?
But for almost exactly the same cost: B25/L50/GM85.
For just a little more, L21/L50/GM85.
Too many choices ...
Apr 07, 2016 at 03:18 PM
p.25 #5Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08 PM
p.25 #6Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Yea a 24-70 and 85 is 3998. I know my wallet feels just about shredded at this point. Lol
Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08 PM
p.25 #7Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Schlotkins wrote:
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
Some advantages of a zoom
No feet zooming
Less lens changing
Less lens caps to lose
Same filter thread
No guessing what's on your camera
No extra lens to lend your shooting partner
You look damn cool
Women love big glass. Priceless
People know your serious
Some weight training
Total confusion on what bag to buy now
You have a kissing cousin in the next lens slot the GM 85
You get my initials on the lens. Better than Priceless. ROTFLMAO
Wait wait wait
You are now really a Grand Master
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
Some advantages of a zoom
No feet zooming
Less lens changing
Less lens caps to lose
Same filter thread
No guessing what's on your camera
No extra lens to lend your shooting partner
You look damn cool
Women love big glass. Priceless
People know your serious
Some weight training
Total confusion on what bag to buy now
You have a kissing cousin in the next lens slot the GM 85
You get my initials on the lens. Better than Priceless. ROTFLMAO
Wait wait wait
You are now really a Grand Master
Apr 07, 2016 at 04:15 PM
p.25 #8Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I wasn't going to buy this lens any time soon but adorama is offering $200 gift card with the purchase of this lens. I just ordered one. Will see.
Douglas
Douglas
Apr 07, 2016 at 04:32 PM
p.25 #9Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
kdrk888 wrote:
I wasn't going to buy this lens any time soon but adorama is offering $200 gift card with the purchase of this lens. I just ordered one. Will see.
Douglas
wow, that's true! Adorama is offering $200 gift card as a Kit special! (I just got an email from them)
Sony FE 24-70/2.8 GM for $1,998 (after gift card discount)
I wasn't going to buy this lens any time soon but adorama is offering $200 gift card with the purchase of this lens. I just ordered one. Will see.
Douglas
wow, that's true! Adorama is offering $200 gift card as a Kit special! (I just got an email from them)
Sony FE 24-70/2.8 GM for $1,998 (after gift card discount)
Apr 07, 2016 at 04:51 PM
p.25 #11Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Schlotkins wrote:
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
Great point!
That's why it makes sense to have the best of both worlds. Carrying a few of our mostly used FL primes along with a high IQ zoom could provide the highest IQ and resolution, especially when restricted to move with our feet.
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
Great point!
That's why it makes sense to have the best of both worlds. Carrying a few of our mostly used FL primes along with a high IQ zoom could provide the highest IQ and resolution, especially when restricted to move with our feet.
Apr 07, 2016 at 05:01 PM
p.25 #12Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
MMkay...so this is good glass. How many filters does it take without blowing the corners?
Apr 07, 2016 at 05:14 PM
p.25 #13Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
1 at 24mm. Or do a Lee filter system but your going to need to go 100 system I believe it's called. I used that system on a Canon 17mm so it should probably work
Apr 07, 2016 at 05:26 PM
p.25 #14Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Well I just landed a big gig starts Monday for 3 days so these GMs are going to get a good workout . Yahoo
Apr 07, 2016 at 05:27 PM
p.25 #15Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
This lens and A7Rii will bring me back to Sony. Look forward 16-35 or 14-24 statement lens like this.
Apr 07, 2016 at 05:59 PM
p.25 #16Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Thanks Grant and Fred for all the work on this post. The wall shots, far field shots and bokeh shots are always great to see and it was a luxury to get them so soon after the lens started shipping.
Apr 08, 2016 at 04:37 AM
p.25 #17Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Its Guy and you are welcome. Everyone gets my name wrong so do not feel bad. Maybe i should have Fred change my handle to Guy Mancuso Photo instead.
Apr 08, 2016 at 04:39 AM
p.25 #18Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Schlotkins wrote:
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
On a high res camera the resolution loss by 'zoom with the crop tool' is not much of a problem unless you are doing giant prints, and not many zooms are as good as this one, most don't approach prime quality both for sharpness and distortion and are slower as well.
Its not the weight in the bag that I don't like, its the weight round the neck! When mooching about a town I often have camera plus 35mm round my neck most of the morning, and the difference between 300gms and 650 for the lens is significant. Thats the weight of a current 35/1.8 Nikkor (which I don't have yet) and the 35-70/2.8 zoom (which was sharper than the 35/2 AF Nikkor I had) I used to carry.
And these new-fangled fast 24-70s are even worse!
Gerry
The issue - at least for me - with primes is that to really get the full IQ advantage over a zoom it has to be an exact focal length. If you have a 21 and a 28 and need a 24, out of 42mpx you only get (21/24)^2*42 = 32mm or about 75% of the original resolution. And that's a pretty small focal length difference.
And the weight savings isn't that great in the bag, which is usually what kills me. The B25 and Loxia 50 is already 660g versus the new 24-70 zoom at 886.
On a high res camera the resolution loss by 'zoom with the crop tool' is not much of a problem unless you are doing giant prints, and not many zooms are as good as this one, most don't approach prime quality both for sharpness and distortion and are slower as well.
Its not the weight in the bag that I don't like, its the weight round the neck! When mooching about a town I often have camera plus 35mm round my neck most of the morning, and the difference between 300gms and 650 for the lens is significant. Thats the weight of a current 35/1.8 Nikkor (which I don't have yet) and the 35-70/2.8 zoom (which was sharper than the 35/2 AF Nikkor I had) I used to carry.
And these new-fangled fast 24-70s are even worse!
Gerry
Apr 08, 2016 at 05:06 AM
p.25 #19Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
On the weight size issue. Well this one is funny, in Sedona with my daughter and grandson. Grandpa decides he can hold a 1 1/2 year old in left arm and shoot right handed at the same time one handed. I do NOT recommend this type of behavior. One of them could drop. 
AF certainly comes in handy sometimes
AF certainly comes in handy sometimes
Apr 08, 2016 at 05:06 AM
p.25 #20Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
It's really sad that in Switzerland as in many other European countries
you would be taking an incredible risk in buying Sony cameras and lenses
including the GM series. Sony does not repair cameras or lenses and neither
do their nominated service partners, rather they swop them for refurbished
items which is in infringement of guarantee agreements and rights of ownership.
Generally their support services can only be described as truly lousy.
you would be taking an incredible risk in buying Sony cameras and lenses
including the GM series. Sony does not repair cameras or lenses and neither
do their nominated service partners, rather they swop them for refurbished
items which is in infringement of guarantee agreements and rights of ownership.
Generally their support services can only be described as truly lousy.
Apr 08, 2016 at 06:05 AM