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Archive 2015Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
p.9 #1Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Luke Simpson wrote:
I can't wait to buy the R version 3 years from now for $950
But you just told us that you can wait a few years
I can't wait to buy the R version 3 years from now for $950
But you just told us that you can wait a few years
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:11 AM
p.9 #2Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Yeah... that's the 70-200 IS MkII. Love that lens... Now imagine what the 135L would look like on that same shot...
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:19 AM
p.9 #3Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
A "worse mirror box" ?!?!?! On what planet
It's a totally new box that is dampened to reduce vibrations, thereby more often eliminating the need to employ mirror lock up mode! That's why it's pegged at 5 FPS! Not because it sucks. Because it's been more meticulously engineered. Is there a full moon tonight?!?!
It's a totally new box that is dampened to reduce vibrations, thereby more often eliminating the need to employ mirror lock up mode! That's why it's pegged at 5 FPS! Not because it sucks. Because it's been more meticulously engineered. Is there a full moon tonight?!?!Feb 06, 2015 at 01:33 AM
p.9 #4Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
The best thing is if someone is not satisfied with the new offerings they should go and create their own thread in the Canon Forum and invite all likeminded people to post with them in that thread and people can complain, bash, til their heart's content and Fred's official thread can be a discussion of those truly interested in the new product and it's features.
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:38 AM
p.9 #5Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
snapsy wrote:
I loved shooting the D800e and miss the resolution and DR but not the greens and yellows. Canon colors are what made me switch from Nikon last year. I'm confident the "R" will deliver for landscape / cityscapes and portraits when paired with the Zeiss 135, 17 TS-E (super excited for this lens), 24-70 and 70-200. No doubt. Glass half-full... I would not use the R for cityscapes due to the aliasing.
Almost too much resolution for portraits, especially showing skin / makeup flaws.
Of course down-sampling is easy. It should be fabulous for environmental
portraiture where the person may occupy a smaller part of the frame.I'll definitely have to consider your advice. It will be easy to switch my order. Thanks for the info. Anyone know if the portrait shot Snapsy posted earlier was with the 5Ds or DsR? That was impressive.The model shot was taken with the 5Ds.
what about lens(es) used fro the shots?
Jim Servies wrote
Monito wrote
Jim Servies wrote
Pre-ordered a 5DsR from my dealer earlier today specifically for my landscape work. I loved shooting the D800e and miss the resolution and DR but not the greens and yellows. Canon colors are what made me switch from Nikon last year. I'm confident the "R" will deliver for landscape / cityscapes and portraits when paired with the Zeiss 135, 17 TS-E (super excited for this lens), 24-70 and 70-200. No doubt. Glass half-full... Almost too much resolution for portraits, especially showing skin / makeup flaws.
Of course down-sampling is easy. It should be fabulous for environmental
portraiture where the person may occupy a smaller part of the frame.
what about lens(es) used fro the shots?
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:42 AM
p.9 #6Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
What are the chances that Adorama does an inventory clear out during the holidays on ebay for $2500 like they did with the 5DIII? I've no doubt these will sell as well as the 5DIII did. But I have a feeling the summer release date will give Sony, or others, plenty of time to release competitive cameras at probably lower prices.
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:43 AM
p.9 #7Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
snapsy wrote:
The model shot was taken with the 5Ds.
Bacalhau wrote:
what about lens(es) used fro the shots?
The EXIF is always posted right next to the image... heck or INSIDE the image. In this case, 70-200 mk2. Just look for yourself.
The model shot was taken with the 5Ds.
Bacalhau wrote:
what about lens(es) used fro the shots?
The EXIF is always posted right next to the image... heck or INSIDE the image. In this case, 70-200 mk2. Just look for yourself.
Feb 06, 2015 at 01:44 AM
p.9 #8Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
burningheart wrote:
The best thing is if someone is not satisfied with the new offerings they should go and create their own thread in the Canon Forum and invite all likeminded people to post with them in that thread and people can complain, bash, til their heart's content and Fred's official thread can be a discussion of those truly interested in the new product and it's features.
Or better yet, make such thread write-only.
The best thing is if someone is not satisfied with the new offerings they should go and create their own thread in the Canon Forum and invite all likeminded people to post with them in that thread and people can complain, bash, til their heart's content and Fred's official thread can be a discussion of those truly interested in the new product and it's features.
Or better yet, make such thread write-only.
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:00 AM
p.9 #9Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
I'm not and never was interested in a high MP camera (and was pretty much accused of lying about this from people who want high mp lol!).
I had my suspicions it'd be an upscaled 7d2 with some tweaks. I don't know what it says about canons sensor plans. As a wedding photographer, wide dynamic range is rarely of use so the 5d4 will still be of interest to me, although better quality pixels would of course be nice.
I actually understand the disappointment as it means another 3 years of waiting for canon to release the camera some of you want.
Canon should beware though - this lack of investment or even ability to work with sony for example could cost them as more and more people switch, either because they *want* or *need* more DR.
But I'll wait to see real tests before judging.
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I had my suspicions it'd be an upscaled 7d2 with some tweaks. I don't know what it says about canons sensor plans. As a wedding photographer, wide dynamic range is rarely of use so the 5d4 will still be of interest to me, although better quality pixels would of course be nice.
I actually understand the disappointment as it means another 3 years of waiting for canon to release the camera some of you want.
Canon should beware though - this lack of investment or even ability to work with sony for example could cost them as more and more people switch, either because they *want* or *need* more DR.
But I'll wait to see real tests before judging.
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Feb 06, 2015 at 02:04 AM
p.9 #10Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Looks like a big improvement to me.
In head to head earlier this week, 1Ds3 vs D800e didn't look especially different for DR in outdoor situations, including buildings (Canon 24 IS vs. Zeiss ZF 25/2.8). But the D800e was noticeably better at resolving fine details. Otherwise, it was hard telling them apart except for screen magnification and MP. I expect this new Canon to bump the D800e by around a similar amount, showing even finer details.
I'm happy with what I have, and will be happier still when I can buy the 5Ds (with or without AA).
In head to head earlier this week, 1Ds3 vs D800e didn't look especially different for DR in outdoor situations, including buildings (Canon 24 IS vs. Zeiss ZF 25/2.8). But the D800e was noticeably better at resolving fine details. Otherwise, it was hard telling them apart except for screen magnification and MP. I expect this new Canon to bump the D800e by around a similar amount, showing even finer details.
I'm happy with what I have, and will be happier still when I can buy the 5Ds (with or without AA).
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:04 AM
p.9 #11Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Both hilarious and highly predictable
gdanmitchell wrote:
The instant angst in this thread is hilarious.
gdanmitchell wrote:
The instant angst in this thread is hilarious.
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:14 AM
p.9 #12Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Cant wait for August to come.
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:15 AM
p.9 #13Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
pureclassa wrote:
Holy crap, some people on here...
As a studio shooter, the money can't fly out my wallet fast enough.
Canon folks will love this. Nikon and Sony people will bitch.
Imagemaster wrote:
Well, of course. Even though they have their own forums, they will be on this forum with their constant whining and bitching about Canon.
This has nothing to do with Nikon vs Canon. Both companies have the devastating problem that they're not trying AT ALL because their loyal users will bend over and take whatever 2% improvement they release as their next "revolutionary model." Look at this thread. You see the image quality for yourself and yet there are people screaming "take my money and anyone who feels differently is just a brand loyalist troll." Uh...we're looking at different sample images.
I don't know that anyone has the guts or the resources to come in and truly release something innovative in this space (Sony had a shot but they blew it in numerous ways), but Nikon and Canon - yes both of them - are totally and utterly boned if anybody does, because they haven't had a new idea since their first generations of DSLRs (which, if you'll remember, where exactly and completely their latest generation film SLRs with a digital sensor in place of the film plane, so it's hard to even know how innovative to call even that).
Holy crap, some people on here...
As a studio shooter, the money can't fly out my wallet fast enough.
Canon folks will love this. Nikon and Sony people will bitch.
Imagemaster wrote:
Well, of course. Even though they have their own forums, they will be on this forum with their constant whining and bitching about Canon.
This has nothing to do with Nikon vs Canon. Both companies have the devastating problem that they're not trying AT ALL because their loyal users will bend over and take whatever 2% improvement they release as their next "revolutionary model." Look at this thread. You see the image quality for yourself and yet there are people screaming "take my money and anyone who feels differently is just a brand loyalist troll." Uh...we're looking at different sample images.
I don't know that anyone has the guts or the resources to come in and truly release something innovative in this space (Sony had a shot but they blew it in numerous ways), but Nikon and Canon - yes both of them - are totally and utterly boned if anybody does, because they haven't had a new idea since their first generations of DSLRs (which, if you'll remember, where exactly and completely their latest generation film SLRs with a digital sensor in place of the film plane, so it's hard to even know how innovative to call even that).
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:15 AM
p.9 #14Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
in terms of pixels this is a 120% improvement...
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:32 AM
p.9 #15Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
The sample images look like typical Canon jpg sample images when viewev at 100%, and that is not good. I expect finer detail and better quality with a good raw converter and suitable sttings.
Feb 06, 2015 at 02:34 AM
p.9 #16Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Makes me happy.
Tho, Im bit confused about S vs SR version. Seriously low-pass on 50 mpix FF? Why?
Tho, Im bit confused about S vs SR version. Seriously low-pass on 50 mpix FF? Why?
Feb 06, 2015 at 03:00 AM
p.9 #17Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Gunzorro wrote:
In head to head earlier this week, 1Ds3 vs D800e didn't look especially different for DR in outdoor situations, including buildings (Canon 24 IS vs. Zeiss ZF 25/2.8). But the D800e was noticeably better at resolving fine details. Otherwise, it was hard telling them apart except for screen magnification and MP.
-1, whole world seems to have different opinion than you do on this one. 1Ds3 is a great canon camera but be honest it has almost 2-3 stops under the D800e belt.
In head to head earlier this week, 1Ds3 vs D800e didn't look especially different for DR in outdoor situations, including buildings (Canon 24 IS vs. Zeiss ZF 25/2.8). But the D800e was noticeably better at resolving fine details. Otherwise, it was hard telling them apart except for screen magnification and MP.
-1, whole world seems to have different opinion than you do on this one. 1Ds3 is a great canon camera but be honest it has almost 2-3 stops under the D800e belt.
Feb 06, 2015 at 03:03 AM
p.9 #18Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
Mescalamba wrote:
Makes me happy.
Tho, Im bit confused about S vs SR version. Seriously low-pass on 50 mpix FF? Why?
Weird, Nikon learnt it's lesson with the D810 and don't need AA filter on 36MP, so its even less required on 50MP.
Anyword on the sensor, is it improved DR, read noise etc?
Makes me happy.
Tho, Im bit confused about S vs SR version. Seriously low-pass on 50 mpix FF? Why?
Weird, Nikon learnt it's lesson with the D810 and don't need AA filter on 36MP, so its even less required on 50MP.
Anyword on the sensor, is it improved DR, read noise etc?
Feb 06, 2015 at 03:04 AM
p.9 #19Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
supermario343 wrote:
Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.Very disappointing to me to hear that. 
Say it ain't so. Disappointing doesn't even begin to describe it if true.
RobDickinson wrote
Dpreview video (with canon) says dynamic range is the same as the 5d3.Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.
Say it ain't so. Disappointing doesn't even begin to describe it if true.
Feb 06, 2015 at 03:06 AM
p.9 #20Official: Canon 5DS, 5DS R and 11-24mm lens announced!
artd wrote:
Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.Very disappointing to me to hear that. The most disappointing thing being that the forums will now be clogged for at least several more years of arguing about the benefits of dynamic range
There's nothing left to argue, the war is lost for the DR naysayers, this is not religion this is scientifically demonstrable effect, not believing the data doesn't make it wrong.
supermario343 wrote
RobDickinson wrote
Dpreview video (with canon) says dynamic range is the same as the 5d3.Its a 7dmk2 sensor scaled up to ff. At least I save some money.
There's nothing left to argue, the war is lost for the DR naysayers, this is not religion this is scientifically demonstrable effect, not believing the data doesn't make it wrong.
Feb 06, 2015 at 03:11 AM