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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.36 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
mawz wrote:
Sony has provided FAR more support for 3rd party makers than Fuji has, up to and including a public release of the mechanical specs for the lens mount (as a hint, there's only one other mount with a public release of the mechanical spec, which is the original K mount. Even the 'universal' mounts like M42 and M39 didn't have public releases of the specs, even if everyone knows them now).
Just a minor clarification: the application process for the spec indicates sony will only release to legal entities, not individuals. But.. this is still more open than other protocols.
Sony has provided FAR more support for 3rd party makers than Fuji has, up to and including a public release of the mechanical specs for the lens mount (as a hint, there's only one other mount with a public release of the mechanical spec, which is the original K mount. Even the 'universal' mounts like M42 and M39 didn't have public releases of the specs, even if everyone knows them now).
Just a minor clarification: the application process for the spec indicates sony will only release to legal entities, not individuals. But.. this is still more open than other protocols.
Sep 23, 2013 at 10:43 AM
p.36 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
SAR is reporting that the cheaper of the FF NEX cameras should be competitive to the low end Canon/Nikon low end FF cameras. But, they think that the price would be for the non discounted price of around $2000. This has a SAR SR5 rumor rating.
SAR also suggested that the cheaper FF NEX camera may be smaller than the NEX-9 and may lack an integrated viewfinder which would bring the camera close to an RX1 design. This rumor was given only an SR3 rumored rating however.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nex-ff-is-said-to-be-competitively-priced/
Rich
SAR also suggested that the cheaper FF NEX camera may be smaller than the NEX-9 and may lack an integrated viewfinder which would bring the camera close to an RX1 design. This rumor was given only an SR3 rumored rating however.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nex-ff-is-said-to-be-competitively-priced/
Rich
Sep 25, 2013 at 06:15 AM
p.36 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7 and X-Pro1 with their peaking modes and personally I disliked it.
Not a big fan of EVF screens or composing with a rear screen in general so even if a FF Nex camera comes out I'll be skipping it.
I think ultimately for me, a M9 or M240 is the way to go.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7 and X-Pro1 with their peaking modes and personally I disliked it.
Not a big fan of EVF screens or composing with a rear screen in general so even if a FF Nex camera comes out I'll be skipping it.
I think ultimately for me, a M9 or M240 is the way to go.
Sep 25, 2013 at 07:46 AM
p.36 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I think you'll find, if you read these threads and the NEX images thread, that many of us not only have thought about it, that's all we do (focus legacy lenses on the NEX). I use AF/native lenses perhaps 5-10% of the time.
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I think you'll find, if you read these threads and the NEX images thread, that many of us not only have thought about it, that's all we do (focus legacy lenses on the NEX). I use AF/native lenses perhaps 5-10% of the time.
Sep 25, 2013 at 07:51 AM
p.36 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
Some of us have a full battery of Leica R lenses and the M240 didn't solve many of our issues. These included the lack of scrolling in the EVF (or LCD screen); needing to remove the bottom cover to access the battery and memory cards; the usage of the hot shoe for the EVF which precluded the usage of a flash unless you added the Multifunctional grip (another large cost); the need to purchase the EVF for the usage with Leica R lenses (a significant cost); the slowest shutter with only some ISO values of 60 seconds; no Electronic remote release without the addition of the Multifunctional Grip; and the cost of all of the parts which including the camera, EVF, Multifunctional Grip, Leica R to Leica M adapter, and 2 extra batteries which comes to a whopping $8500 or so.
Rich
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I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
Some of us have a full battery of Leica R lenses and the M240 didn't solve many of our issues. These included the lack of scrolling in the EVF (or LCD screen); needing to remove the bottom cover to access the battery and memory cards; the usage of the hot shoe for the EVF which precluded the usage of a flash unless you added the Multifunctional grip (another large cost); the need to purchase the EVF for the usage with Leica R lenses (a significant cost); the slowest shutter with only some ISO values of 60 seconds; no Electronic remote release without the addition of the Multifunctional Grip; and the cost of all of the parts which including the camera, EVF, Multifunctional Grip, Leica R to Leica M adapter, and 2 extra batteries which comes to a whopping $8500 or so.
Rich
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Sep 25, 2013 at 07:58 AM
p.36 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
It's a lot easier for me than trying to focus with Nikon's green dot confirmation system. I wouldn't just utilize peaking though. I usually use it in conjunction with the touch magnify function on NEX 5N to check focus.
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
It's a lot easier for me than trying to focus with Nikon's green dot confirmation system. I wouldn't just utilize peaking though. I usually use it in conjunction with the touch magnify function on NEX 5N to check focus.
Sep 25, 2013 at 08:11 AM
p.36 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
yup, 99.9% of my shooting is manual focus on evf/lcd viewing cameras. i find current evfs MUCH better for this than canon or nikon's FF dslr viewfinders. the early panasonic,x-p1 evf, and original x100 evf were not up to the task however. i don't use peaking at all btw. i can't stand rangefinder style composing so i would never consider the leicas.
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
yup, 99.9% of my shooting is manual focus on evf/lcd viewing cameras. i find current evfs MUCH better for this than canon or nikon's FF dslr viewfinders. the early panasonic,x-p1 evf, and original x100 evf were not up to the task however. i don't use peaking at all btw. i can't stand rangefinder style composing so i would never consider the leicas.
Sep 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM
p.36 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
naturephoto1 wrote:
SAR is reporting that the cheaper of the FF NEX cameras should be competitive to the low end Canon/Nikon low end FF cameras. But, they think that the price would be for the non discounted price of around $2000.
So take out the crazy mirror and prism assemblies, streamline to a tiny fraction as many parts, cheapen up a lot of the frame and body materials, engineer it so that it can be put together on a normal assembly line without the all the hand-assembly DSLRs require, and charge the same price.
At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9 - will have.
Why do we keep bending over for this? I get that at first there was a lot of R&D involved in getting all of this functionality into a smaller package than anyone else ever had. But three years of constant mostly-firmware-tweaks iterations later? They've gotta be approaching iPhone-level profit margins.
SAR is reporting that the cheaper of the FF NEX cameras should be competitive to the low end Canon/Nikon low end FF cameras. But, they think that the price would be for the non discounted price of around $2000.
So take out the crazy mirror and prism assemblies, streamline to a tiny fraction as many parts, cheapen up a lot of the frame and body materials, engineer it so that it can be put together on a normal assembly line without the all the hand-assembly DSLRs require, and charge the same price.
At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9 - will have.
Why do we keep bending over for this? I get that at first there was a lot of R&D involved in getting all of this functionality into a smaller package than anyone else ever had. But three years of constant mostly-firmware-tweaks iterations later? They've gotta be approaching iPhone-level profit margins.
Sep 25, 2013 at 02:51 PM
p.36 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Lee Saxon wrote:
So take out the crazy mirror and prism assemblies, streamline to a tiny fraction as many parts, cheapen up a lot of the frame and body materials, engineer it so that it can be put together on a normal assembly line without the all the hand-assembly DSLRs require, and charge the same price.
At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9...Show more →
Magnesium's a plastic now?
If you feel like you're getting anally raped, there's always... well... Leica?
naturephoto1 wrote
SAR is reporting that the cheaper of the FF NEX cameras should be competitive to the low end Canon/Nikon low end FF cameras. But, they think that the price would be for the non discounted price of around $2000.At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9...Show more →
Magnesium's a plastic now?
If you feel like you're getting anally raped, there's always... well... Leica?
Sep 25, 2013 at 04:03 PM
p.36 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
With an ear to ear grin on my face.
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
With an ear to ear grin on my face.
Sep 25, 2013 at 04:08 PM
p.36 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Lee Saxon wrote:
So take out the crazy mirror and prism assemblies, streamline to a tiny fraction as many parts, cheapen up a lot of the frame and body materials, engineer it so that it can be put together on a normal assembly line without the all the hand-assembly DSLRs require, and charge the same price.
At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9...Show more →
There are a number of factors to consider. One is marker size. Would Sony be selling anywhere near the same number of NEX-FF cameras as the number of 6D's and D600's that Canikon sell? Moreover Canon and Nikon make a large part of their money on lenses and other accessories. Having a cheaper entry-level FF camera means more people will buy more expensive full frame lenses. FF NEX would a much smaller system in terms of lenses and accessories so not as much money to be made on lens sales initially. Then there is also the matter of having no competitor. If your closest competitor is $7K leica, then $2K is really a bargain price.
Saying all that, I would of course love it if I could get the NEX-FF for $1500
naturephoto1 wrote
SAR is reporting that the cheaper of the FF NEX cameras should be competitive to the low end Canon/Nikon low end FF cameras. But, they think that the price would be for the non discounted price of around $2000.At least we're not talking about it costing MORE than similarly-specced DSLRs, as the NEX-7 does. But this model would need D4-level build quality to justify D600-level prices, not the plastic toyness of the NEX-7 that we all know it - and sadly probably even the NEX-9...Show more →
There are a number of factors to consider. One is marker size. Would Sony be selling anywhere near the same number of NEX-FF cameras as the number of 6D's and D600's that Canikon sell? Moreover Canon and Nikon make a large part of their money on lenses and other accessories. Having a cheaper entry-level FF camera means more people will buy more expensive full frame lenses. FF NEX would a much smaller system in terms of lenses and accessories so not as much money to be made on lens sales initially. Then there is also the matter of having no competitor. If your closest competitor is $7K leica, then $2K is really a bargain price.
Saying all that, I would of course love it if I could get the NEX-FF for $1500
Sep 25, 2013 at 04:13 PM
p.36 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
I find myself thinking like you. Used to shoot with Nikon as well as Canon FF. Loved the results, didn't like the bulk and weight of the system. Still wanted to shoot FF so Eventually shot with the RX1 for a number of months. Loved the IQ, the ability to PP like mad and still enjoy the results, but didn't like the AF, didn't love the fact that there was no built in VF, didn't like the fixed and non touch screen. Then my daughter was born. Had less time to PP, still don't. Didn't like missing focus. Still enjoyed the heck out of the IQ, but the compromises that I loved with became compromises that I didn't want to anymore.
Thought I would try a tilt screen, still non touch, and built in Finder with the NEX-7 and a box full of random legacy glass. Didn't care too much for MF, and the great deals I thought I got when buying MF, provided me a great challenge when trying to resell. Even though I scored a great deal off of comparable asking prices, trying to sell again resulted in me taking a loss, be it only $10-20 per lens, sometimes up to $50, but a loss none the less.
I found my solution with m4/3 whereas you found it with the X series. Yes IQ is not nearly what I had before, neither is bokeh. But capturing the moment was easier and after trying out the new. E-M1 I found the complete package. Touch/tilt screen, best in class EVF, weather sealed, fast AF, great primes, great standard zoom, etc. it's not perfect, but for now it's the closest thing to what I was searching for.
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
I find myself thinking like you. Used to shoot with Nikon as well as Canon FF. Loved the results, didn't like the bulk and weight of the system. Still wanted to shoot FF so Eventually shot with the RX1 for a number of months. Loved the IQ, the ability to PP like mad and still enjoy the results, but didn't like the AF, didn't love the fact that there was no built in VF, didn't like the fixed and non touch screen. Then my daughter was born. Had less time to PP, still don't. Didn't like missing focus. Still enjoyed the heck out of the IQ, but the compromises that I loved with became compromises that I didn't want to anymore.
Thought I would try a tilt screen, still non touch, and built in Finder with the NEX-7 and a box full of random legacy glass. Didn't care too much for MF, and the great deals I thought I got when buying MF, provided me a great challenge when trying to resell. Even though I scored a great deal off of comparable asking prices, trying to sell again resulted in me taking a loss, be it only $10-20 per lens, sometimes up to $50, but a loss none the less.
I found my solution with m4/3 whereas you found it with the X series. Yes IQ is not nearly what I had before, neither is bokeh. But capturing the moment was easier and after trying out the new. E-M1 I found the complete package. Touch/tilt screen, best in class EVF, weather sealed, fast AF, great primes, great standard zoom, etc. it's not perfect, but for now it's the closest thing to what I was searching for.
Sep 25, 2013 at 06:23 PM
p.36 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
'but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?'
Maybe people who appreciate the focus assistance that is enabled by the type of camera, who might have been wishing for something like this for many years? Who use the system with each shot they take?
It's understandable that the hard to please camera consumer might restlessly drift along from one set of unacceptable compromises to the next (often swapping on the most superficial of grounds) but if you want accurate focusing of even difficult manual lenses, the Sony system is much more than satisfactory.
And not everyone needs the quality and output attributes of full frame, it is more something enthusiasts will appreciate, like most of the finer things in life. Full frame might account for what proportion of the overall market - 10% or 20%?
Maybe people who appreciate the focus assistance that is enabled by the type of camera, who might have been wishing for something like this for many years? Who use the system with each shot they take?
It's understandable that the hard to please camera consumer might restlessly drift along from one set of unacceptable compromises to the next (often swapping on the most superficial of grounds) but if you want accurate focusing of even difficult manual lenses, the Sony system is much more than satisfactory.
And not everyone needs the quality and output attributes of full frame, it is more something enthusiasts will appreciate, like most of the finer things in life. Full frame might account for what proportion of the overall market - 10% or 20%?
Sep 25, 2013 at 07:10 PM
p.36 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
Well I continue to be a Canon FF fan boy cause of the registry distance. I also use the NEX 5N and touch screen magnification to focus as a small alternative system. With fast lenses and *fast* critical focusing it's inferior to a fast matte such as the EG-S.
I am going to give the FF NEX a sincere and very pragmatic try despite the NEX history of surprisingly bad and slow user interface. If the camera turns out to be small enough it is very much worth a try.
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Sold all my Canon gears and have settled with the Fuji X family, using the X100s primarily and the X-Pro1 for wide and tele shots (14mm and 55-200mm)
Everyone seems to be excited about a FF NEX camera and the FF IQ that it will give them, but has anyone thought how are they going to focus legacy lenses in it?
I tried shooting M-lenses on the NEX5, NEX7...Show more →
Well I continue to be a Canon FF fan boy cause of the registry distance. I also use the NEX 5N and touch screen magnification to focus as a small alternative system. With fast lenses and *fast* critical focusing it's inferior to a fast matte such as the EG-S.
I am going to give the FF NEX a sincere and very pragmatic try despite the NEX history of surprisingly bad and slow user interface. If the camera turns out to be small enough it is very much worth a try.
Sep 26, 2013 at 04:37 PM
p.36 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
taemo wrote:
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Now you are P&S fanboy. Like much of world 
I have heard that autofocus is one reason homo Sapiens can get away with smaller brains than Neanderthals, who didn't even have rangefinders!
They had to think.
I used to be a FF fan boy but after shooting 35mm and MF along the 5DII, I learned to appreciate just being able to capture a moment than worrying about IQ and specs.
Now you are P&S fanboy.
Like much of world I have heard that autofocus is one reason homo Sapiens can get away with smaller brains than Neanderthals, who didn't even have rangefinders!
They had to think.
Sep 26, 2013 at 04:53 PM
p.36 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
SAR just posted an updated SR5 lens list.
24-70mm Zeiss FE /aperture not know yet).
28-70mm Sony G FE f/4.0
35mm f/2.8 Zeiss FE
55mm f/1.8 Zeiss FE
Yet not confirmed by trusted sources but likely to happen: 85mm f/1.8
24-70 & 28-70 seems a bit redundant to me.
24-70mm Zeiss FE /aperture not know yet).
28-70mm Sony G FE f/4.0
35mm f/2.8 Zeiss FE
55mm f/1.8 Zeiss FE
Yet not confirmed by trusted sources but likely to happen: 85mm f/1.8
24-70 & 28-70 seems a bit redundant to me.
Sep 27, 2013 at 06:20 AM
p.36 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
LightShow wrote:
SAR just posted an updated SR5 lens list.
28-70mm Sony G FE f/4.0
35mm f/2.8 Zeiss FE
55mm f/1.8 Zeiss FE
Yet not confirmed by trusted sources but likely to happen: 85mm f/1.824-70 & 28-70 seems a bit redundant to me.
Per SAR, the 28-70 will be the "cheap" kit lens, the 24-70 the more expensive, higher end zoom. Seems strange they would refer to the "G" like that since "G" lenses were historically higher end for Minolta.
SAR just posted an updated SR5 lens list.
Earlier quote
24-70mm Zeiss FE /aperture not know yet).28-70mm Sony G FE f/4.0
35mm f/2.8 Zeiss FE
55mm f/1.8 Zeiss FE
Yet not confirmed by trusted sources but likely to happen: 85mm f/1.8
Per SAR, the 28-70 will be the "cheap" kit lens, the 24-70 the more expensive, higher end zoom. Seems strange they would refer to the "G" like that since "G" lenses were historically higher end for Minolta.
Sep 27, 2013 at 06:34 AM
p.36 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
One thing that was briefly touched on above, is the SLOW and awful Sony interface.
I'm not sure if it's just me, or my camera (NEX-6), but it is SLOW. I'm not talking "the menus suck", but they are actually slow to go through. Selecting a menu item, going into it, adjusting settings- my camera is slower than almost any CaNikon in recent memory.
Scrolling through the pictures/videos on the card (Sandisk UHS-1) is slower than any camera i've used in the past like 3 years. That is the most irritating thing to me about this camera, even over the DX sensor.
I'm not sure if it's just me, or my camera (NEX-6), but it is SLOW. I'm not talking "the menus suck", but they are actually slow to go through. Selecting a menu item, going into it, adjusting settings- my camera is slower than almost any CaNikon in recent memory.
Scrolling through the pictures/videos on the card (Sandisk UHS-1) is slower than any camera i've used in the past like 3 years. That is the most irritating thing to me about this camera, even over the DX sensor.
Sep 27, 2013 at 06:51 AM
p.36 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Shouldn't we suppose that if the 'kit' zoom is f/4, the high end unit will be f/2.8 or, at least, f/3.4 ?
I'd prefer a constant f/3.4 aperture to a variable f/2.8-4.
I'd prefer a constant f/3.4 aperture to a variable f/2.8-4.
Sep 27, 2013 at 06:57 AM
p.36 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
artur5 wrote:
Shouldn't we suppose that if the 'kit' zoom is f/4, the high end unit will be f/2.8 or, at least, f/3.4 ?
I'd prefer a constant f/3.4 aperture to a variable f/2.8-4.
Normally, but since the 24-70 is a Zeiss and the other a Sony G...and since one of the selling aspects of the FF NEX is minimal size/ weight, the 24-70 could very well be F4 in order to make it smaller.
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Shouldn't we suppose that if the 'kit' zoom is f/4, the high end unit will be f/2.8 or, at least, f/3.4 ?
I'd prefer a constant f/3.4 aperture to a variable f/2.8-4.
Normally, but since the 24-70 is a Zeiss and the other a Sony G...and since one of the selling aspects of the FF NEX is minimal size/ weight, the 24-70 could very well be F4 in order to make it smaller.
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Sep 27, 2013 at 07:02 AM