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p.33 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
edwardkaraa wrote:
They need more production capacity first. They would be have to be stupid to make a lower-spec and presumedly lower-profit model when their production lines are at full capacity with a higher-profit model. More production capacity is being built.Dr. Kaufmann in an interview a couple of weeks ago has insinuated that more new product lines will be introduced this year even in FF.
Dare I speculate that they might perhaps be uber-lux special editions?
telyt wrote
uhoh7 wrote
when will Leica get smart and offer us a minimalist RF-less m240?Dare I speculate that they might perhaps be uber-lux special editions?
Sep 15, 2013 at 12:21 AM
p.33 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
For me there's a clear distinction between a product line and a special edition but I haven't read that particular interview so I don't know in what context it was said.
Sep 15, 2013 at 02:42 AM
p.33 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
edwardkaraa wrote:
They need more production capacity first. They would be have to be stupid to make a lower-spec and presumedly lower-profit model when their production lines are at full capacity with a higher-profit model. More production capacity is being built.Dr. Kaufmann in an interview a couple of weeks ago has insinuated that more new product lines will be introduced this year even in FF.
One of my stops at PhotoPlus in NYC in October as usual will be the Leica Camera Booth. I will see if my friends including Justin Stailey and Roger Horn, President of Leica USA can provide any hint of what is and/or may be coming. PhotoPlus is a major Photo Show in NYC and Leica always likes to showcase their products at the show. Unfortunately unless they have been given approval to say anything Justin and Roger generally keep things close to the vest but they may hint at things though they can be somewhat cryptic.
Rich
telyt wrote
uhoh7 wrote
when will Leica get smart and offer us a minimalist RF-less m240?One of my stops at PhotoPlus in NYC in October as usual will be the Leica Camera Booth. I will see if my friends including Justin Stailey and Roger Horn, President of Leica USA can provide any hint of what is and/or may be coming. PhotoPlus is a major Photo Show in NYC and Leica always likes to showcase their products at the show. Unfortunately unless they have been given approval to say anything Justin and Roger generally keep things close to the vest but they may hint at things though they can be somewhat cryptic.
Rich
Sep 15, 2013 at 05:22 AM
p.33 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Sorry I should have said couple of months ago.
http://leicarumors.com/2013/07/22/interview-with-dr-andreas-kaufman-2.aspx/
This is what caught my attention:
New products will be announced this fall and next spring. Dr. Kaufman hinted that new Monochrom devices "would make sense". Another quote: "we are working on many different solutions for the full format".
http://leicarumors.com/2013/07/22/interview-with-dr-andreas-kaufman-2.aspx/
This is what caught my attention:
New products will be announced this fall and next spring. Dr. Kaufman hinted that new Monochrom devices "would make sense". Another quote: "we are working on many different solutions for the full format".
Sep 15, 2013 at 05:52 AM
p.33 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Taylor Sherman wrote:
Dare I speculate that they might perhaps be uber-lux special editions?
"Special editions" are used to clear out excessive parts stock used by old models. When Leica makes a Special Edition there's a new model on the way.
Dare I speculate that they might perhaps be uber-lux special editions?
"Special editions" are used to clear out excessive parts stock used by old models. When Leica makes a Special Edition there's a new model on the way.
Sep 15, 2013 at 07:16 AM
p.33 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Whatever it may be, don't expect Leica to ever go mainstream releasing a competitively priced product ( i.e. a RF-less M240 for $2500-3000 ). They needn't do that, it would be against any marketing rules because their volume of sales is small enough (compared to Sony/Fuji..) to be fulfilled by buyers willing to pay any price asked, provided it's a Leica.
Sep 15, 2013 at 09:38 AM
p.33 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Looks like retailers have been sent invitations to 'events' between Oct 14-18th. Looking like the FF isn't gonna be shipping before christmas at this rate. I found this out a few hours after booking my flights for my trip over christmas :-)
Sep 16, 2013 at 05:04 AM
p.33 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
robsonj wrote:
Looks like retailers have been sent invitations to 'events' between Oct 14-18th. Looking like the FF isn't gonna be shipping before christmas at this rate. I found this out a few hours after booking my flights for my trip over christmas :-)
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's quite possible that its available during the Christmas season. There are a lot of planned announcements by several camera companies happening during that mid to late October time period.
Looks like retailers have been sent invitations to 'events' between Oct 14-18th. Looking like the FF isn't gonna be shipping before christmas at this rate. I found this out a few hours after booking my flights for my trip over christmas :-)
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's quite possible that its available during the Christmas season. There are a lot of planned announcements by several camera companies happening during that mid to late October time period.
Sep 16, 2013 at 06:10 AM
p.33 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Announced in Oct, avail for Xmas, is totally doable.
Sep 16, 2013 at 06:26 AM
p.33 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
ISO1600 wrote:
Announced in Oct, avail for Xmas, is totally doable.
We know that the camera will be on display at PhotoPlus in NYC October 24-26. So the announcement should either be prior to that or at the show.
Rich
Announced in Oct, avail for Xmas, is totally doable.
We know that the camera will be on display at PhotoPlus in NYC October 24-26. So the announcement should either be prior to that or at the show.
Rich
Sep 16, 2013 at 06:36 AM
p.33 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sflxn wrote:
For this camera, I could care less about zooms.
For this camera, I could care less about zooms.
Sep 16, 2013 at 03:26 PM
p.33 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Matt Grum wrote:
sflxn wrote
For this camera, I could care less about zooms.Sep 16, 2013 at 03:36 PM
p.33 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I will hold the fort awaiting the next best thing.... 
Sep 16, 2013 at 03:42 PM
p.33 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Matt Grum wrote:
Awesome video. I stand corrected.
sflxn wrote
For this camera, I could care less about zooms.Awesome video. I stand corrected.
Sep 16, 2013 at 04:12 PM
p.33 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
'They needn't do that, it would be against any marketing rules because their volume of sales is small enough (compared to Sony/Fuji..) to be fulfilled by buyers willing to pay any price asked, provided it's a Leica.'
All well and good for the higher end and unquestionably fabulous RF and MF models, but then they spoil the meme you advanced with down market forays which simply embarrass them and force their fan base to write glowing non-reviews of sheer boosterism, as did Huff for the recently released slow zoom-equipped crop sensor number - he even warned readers off expressing 'negativity and hatred'.
Perhaps all along they intended to sell just a handful of X Varios to the lucky elite to deploy when they take a short casual stroll along the boulevarde...or were they laughing behind their hands - let's see if they fall for this one!
I suspect they would have ramped up production - crass as that may be - if against all expectations it met with market approval.
All well and good for the higher end and unquestionably fabulous RF and MF models, but then they spoil the meme you advanced with down market forays which simply embarrass them and force their fan base to write glowing non-reviews of sheer boosterism, as did Huff for the recently released slow zoom-equipped crop sensor number - he even warned readers off expressing 'negativity and hatred'.
Perhaps all along they intended to sell just a handful of X Varios to the lucky elite to deploy when they take a short casual stroll along the boulevarde...or were they laughing behind their hands - let's see if they fall for this one!
I suspect they would have ramped up production - crass as that may be - if against all expectations it met with market approval.
Sep 16, 2013 at 05:07 PM
p.33 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
SAR is reporting that the 3rd lens to be released with the FF NEX camera is the 24-70mm FE Zeiss zoom. It is coming or to be announced in mid October and will be available for the FF NEX camera- E mount.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-new-zeiss-24-70mm-fe-full-frame-e-mount-lens-coming-too-with-the-nex-ff-in-october/
Rich
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-new-zeiss-24-70mm-fe-full-frame-e-mount-lens-coming-too-with-the-nex-ff-in-october/
Rich
Sep 19, 2013 at 06:19 AM
p.33 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
That's really good news for the NEX universe. Maybe Sony is finally taking lens strategy seriously!
Sep 19, 2013 at 08:59 AM
p.33 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
If Leica and this weird dude Kaufman were smart, they would approach Sony and ask:
"Hey, what can we do to help you?".
"Is there anything we can share with you so our lenses work on your brilliant new cameras?".
"Hey, what can we do to help you?".
"Is there anything we can share with you so our lenses work on your brilliant new cameras?".
Sep 19, 2013 at 09:22 AM
p.33 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
They already have zeiss for that.
Sep 19, 2013 at 09:29 AM
p.33 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
snowboarder wrote:
If Leica and this weird dude Kaufman were smart, they would approach Sony and ask:
"Hey, what can we do to help you?".
"Is there anything we can share with you so our lenses work on your brilliant new cameras?".
two thoughts come to mind:
1) you want another price spike for M lenses?
2) why would Leica want to sabotage sales of their M-mount camera bodies? They won't sell more lenses because they can't produce more than they're already making.
If Leica and this weird dude Kaufman were smart, they would approach Sony and ask:
"Hey, what can we do to help you?".
"Is there anything we can share with you so our lenses work on your brilliant new cameras?".
two thoughts come to mind:
1) you want another price spike for M lenses?
2) why would Leica want to sabotage sales of their M-mount camera bodies? They won't sell more lenses because they can't produce more than they're already making.
Sep 19, 2013 at 09:33 AM