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p.34 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Sony Alpha Rumors is now reporting about messages that they have received. The third message which Andrea has reported as far as I am concerned is the most interesting- there are 2 FF E-mount cameras coming, one like the NEX-7, and one like the RX1.
Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
Rich
Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
Rich
Sep 20, 2013 at 04:12 AM
p.34 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
naturephoto1 wrote:
Sony Alpha Rumors is now reporting about messages that they have received. The third message which Andrea has reported as far as I am concerned is the most interesting- there are 2 FF E-mount cameras coming, one like the NEX-7, and one like the RX1.
Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
Rich
That makes sense given the past David Kilpatrick rumor of an RX1 type body seen. Really curious to see the spec differences between these two (will the RX FF body use the same accessories as the RX1 - EVF, etc?). I'm guessing the RX1 based body must be the more expensive of the two given it's smaller size of the rumored FF NEX that is rumored to be slightly bigger than an NEX-7. It also makes makes sense in the context of that slow yet small rumored prime 35 2.8, which is claimed to be the exact size of the RX1 35/2 when attached.
Sony Alpha Rumors is now reporting about messages that they have received. The third message which Andrea has reported as far as I am concerned is the most interesting- there are 2 FF E-mount cameras coming, one like the NEX-7, and one like the RX1.
Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
Rich
That makes sense given the past David Kilpatrick rumor of an RX1 type body seen. Really curious to see the spec differences between these two (will the RX FF body use the same accessories as the RX1 - EVF, etc?). I'm guessing the RX1 based body must be the more expensive of the two given it's smaller size of the rumored FF NEX that is rumored to be slightly bigger than an NEX-7. It also makes makes sense in the context of that slow yet small rumored prime 35 2.8, which is claimed to be the exact size of the RX1 35/2 when attached.
Sep 20, 2013 at 05:21 AM
p.34 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
RichThat makes sense given the past David Kilpatrick rumor of an RX1 type body seen. Really curious to see the spec differences between these two (will the RX FF body use the same accessories as the RX1 - EVF, etc?). I'm guessing the RX1 based body must be the more expensive of the two given it's smaller size of the rumored FF NEX that is rumored to be slightly bigger than an NEX-7.
Except that if the one camera lacks an EVF, that would be an expensive accessory to be added to the purchase price if it is desired. If the EVF is included as in an NEX-7 that would add not only to the size and weight of the camera (as would a tilt LCD screen) but certainly to the cost as well. That would certainly be the case if Sony is in fact is able to include IBIS (as has been rumored) which would at least to me make more sense in including it into the larger body than the smaller one if the smaller one lacks an EVF.
Rich
naturephoto1 wrote
Sony Alpha Rumors is now reporting about messages that they have received. The third message which Andrea has reported as far as I am concerned is the most interesting- there are 2 FF E-mount cameras coming, one like the NEX-7, and one like the RX1.Sony representatives now openly talk about the soon to be announced NEX-FF (and a hint on A-mount FF). | sonyalpharumors
Rich
Except that if the one camera lacks an EVF, that would be an expensive accessory to be added to the purchase price if it is desired. If the EVF is included as in an NEX-7 that would add not only to the size and weight of the camera (as would a tilt LCD screen) but certainly to the cost as well. That would certainly be the case if Sony is in fact is able to include IBIS (as has been rumored) which would at least to me make more sense in including it into the larger body than the smaller one if the smaller one lacks an EVF.
Rich
Sep 20, 2013 at 05:30 AM
p.34 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I think the rx1 type is going to be the cheaper one of the two if it's one that doesn't have an evf if it's like the rx1. I'm not too sure how else to differentiate between the two rumored models since they are said to use the same sensor other than by things like the EVF, different levels of external controls, perhaps IBIS, etc.
Sep 20, 2013 at 05:43 AM
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How much will each sell for, at least initially? How much difference would you assign to an RX1 style camera compared to a NEX7 camera?
It's a good idea - one continues the spare NEX configuration - entry level FF mirrorless - the other is the high build quality upmarket one, a higher Mp one maybe. IBIS on both though, and same EVF setup I think.
It's a good idea - one continues the spare NEX configuration - entry level FF mirrorless - the other is the high build quality upmarket one, a higher Mp one maybe. IBIS on both though, and same EVF setup I think.
Sep 20, 2013 at 05:53 AM
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My guess is that the RX1 version will actually be more expensive and NOT have a built in EVF or IBIS to make it as small as possible. It will be sold into the same upmarket that paid the price for the RX1 and, as philip says, will have a higher build quality. As such, many who buy it may already own a compatible EVF as they may already own the RX1. It will be a much smaller market than the larger FF NEX based off the NEX-7, which will have a built in EVF and possibly IBIS..and similar build quality to the NEX-7. I suspect they will have the same sensor as rumored, and it will be 32MP.
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:01 AM
p.34 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
My guess is that the RX1 version will actually be more expensive and NOT have a built in EVF or IBIS to make it as small as possible. It will be sold into the same upmarket that paid the price for the RX1 and, as philip says, will have a higher build quality. As such, many who buy it may already own a compatible EVF as they may already own the RX1. It will be a much smaller market than the larger FF NEX based off the NEX-7, which will have a built in EVF and possibly IBIS..and similar...Show more →
I could be wrong, but if the larger camera is built on the NEX-7 guideline, I would think and hope that Sony would have to improve the build quality of the camera.
Also, hopefully both cameras will allow for the usage of a wired remote which will afford many additional photographic opportunities and connect ability. Hopefully if Sony uses either the 32 or 36MP sensors in these cameras they will give the Nikon D800/D800E a run for the money in resolution capability.
Rich
My guess is that the RX1 version will actually be more expensive and NOT have a built in EVF or IBIS to make it as small as possible. It will be sold into the same upmarket that paid the price for the RX1 and, as philip says, will have a higher build quality. As such, many who buy it may already own a compatible EVF as they may already own the RX1. It will be a much smaller market than the larger FF NEX based off the NEX-7, which will have a built in EVF and possibly IBIS..and similar...Show more →
I could be wrong, but if the larger camera is built on the NEX-7 guideline, I would think and hope that Sony would have to improve the build quality of the camera.
Also, hopefully both cameras will allow for the usage of a wired remote which will afford many additional photographic opportunities and connect ability. Hopefully if Sony uses either the 32 or 36MP sensors in these cameras they will give the Nikon D800/D800E a run for the money in resolution capability.
Rich
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:11 AM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
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I could be wrong, but if the larger camera is built on the NEX-7 guideline, I would think and hope that Sony would have to improve the build quality of the camera.
Rich
I don't know. The short time I owned the NEX-7, I thought the build quality was alright - at least as good as say a Nikon D800E (which I also owned but found the build quality lacking compared to what I expected. My expectation of the NEX-7 was not as high for instance). I guess both are around mid-level/ range build wise. I guess it all depends on where Sony price this FF NEX at. If it's say $1999 or just a tiny bit over 2K, I sort of doubt it will have build quality noticeably different than a NEX-7. At close to 3K, I think it would be better.
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I could be wrong, but if the larger camera is built on the NEX-7 guideline, I would think and hope that Sony would have to improve the build quality of the camera.
Rich
I don't know. The short time I owned the NEX-7, I thought the build quality was alright - at least as good as say a Nikon D800E (which I also owned but found the build quality lacking compared to what I expected. My expectation of the NEX-7 was not as high for instance). I guess both are around mid-level/ range build wise. I guess it all depends on where Sony price this FF NEX at. If it's say $1999 or just a tiny bit over 2K, I sort of doubt it will have build quality noticeably different than a NEX-7. At close to 3K, I think it would be better.
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:22 AM
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Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:23 AM
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ulrikft2 wrote:
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
Weather sealing on both cameras would be welcome. But to include an EVF in a camera the size of the RX1 or a little larger could be a bit of a problem in handling with larger and heavier interchangeable lenses.
Rich
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
Weather sealing on both cameras would be welcome. But to include an EVF in a camera the size of the RX1 or a little larger could be a bit of a problem in handling with larger and heavier interchangeable lenses.
Rich
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:29 AM
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ulrikft2 wrote:
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
I would love it as I find the RX1 a little small. Sony would likely have a hit if they produced that. The weather sealing probably will not happen due to the lenses (lack of weather sealed lenses). My doubt is because I suspect Sony will want the crown/ bragging rights/ technology showcase/ etc. of smallest FF body and leave the larger version to the FF NEX. If they go that route, to get the absolute smallest size they will follow the RX1 blueprint.
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
I would love it as I find the RX1 a little small. Sony would likely have a hit if they produced that. The weather sealing probably will not happen due to the lenses (lack of weather sealed lenses). My doubt is because I suspect Sony will want the crown/ bragging rights/ technology showcase/ etc. of smallest FF body and leave the larger version to the FF NEX. If they go that route, to get the absolute smallest size they will follow the RX1 blueprint.
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:31 AM
p.34 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
+1. Drop the price to something more sensible too, please.
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:35 AM
p.34 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
naturephoto1 wrote:
Also, hopefully both cameras will allow for the usage of a wired remote which will afford many additional photographic opportunities and connect ability.
Rich
+1
Also, hopefully both cameras will allow for the usage of a wired remote which will afford many additional photographic opportunities and connect ability.
Rich
+1
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:36 AM
p.34 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Will the "RX1' version do without an AA filter?
Good point re the EVF, and since that is the target market, it seems a good way to reduce size/weight and the asking $$$ to reduce sticker shock to levels you might contemplate.
Soon they may have RX100-2, RX10, RX1 and RX ILC. Start at the bottom, work up!
Good point re the EVF, and since that is the target market, it seems a good way to reduce size/weight and the asking $$$ to reduce sticker shock to levels you might contemplate.
Soon they may have RX100-2, RX10, RX1 and RX ILC. Start at the bottom, work up!
Sep 20, 2013 at 06:41 AM
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edwardkaraa wrote:
Don't forget that Sony is rumored to go AA-less in the next generation Alpha and Nex bodies, so I have good hopes about the sensor performance with RF lenses.
Now ya got the positive vibes going
Any "Kelly's Heros" fans?
Edited on Sep 20, 2013 at 07:13 AM · View previous versions
Don't forget that Sony is rumored to go AA-less in the next generation Alpha and Nex bodies, so I have good hopes about the sensor performance with RF lenses.
Now ya got the positive vibes going
Any "Kelly's Heros" fans?
Edited on Sep 20, 2013 at 07:13 AM · View previous versions
Sep 20, 2013 at 07:12 AM
p.34 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I am very curious about the possibly upcoming RX 0.1
Sep 20, 2013 at 07:12 AM
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carstenw wrote:
I am very curious about the possibly upcoming RX 0.1
To be followed by the "negative series"
the -7
I am very curious about the possibly upcoming RX 0.1
To be followed by the "negative series"
the -7
Sep 20, 2013 at 07:14 AM
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I'm also curious to see if Hasselblad releases a 'Galactic' version of the NEX FF ..
Sep 20, 2013 at 09:21 AM
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ulrikft2 wrote:
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
i'd be down for that. i'm ok with a smaller lcd to make room for the evf too.
Am I the only one that want a 1.1 or 1.2x upscaled model of the rx1 with a viewfinder, decent weather sealing and such?
i'd be down for that. i'm ok with a smaller lcd to make room for the evf too.
Sep 20, 2013 at 09:45 AM
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artur5 wrote:
I'm also curious to see if Hasselblad releases a 'Galactic' version of the NEX FF ..
With sensor shift for autofocus V lenses.
I'm also curious to see if Hasselblad releases a 'Galactic' version of the NEX FF ..
With sensor shift for autofocus V lenses.
Sep 20, 2013 at 09:56 AM