p.169 #3 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
JakAHearts wrote:
Maybe its the fact that Im not looking through a viewfinder but I really am pushing my compositions due to this camera. Perhaps for the good or perhaps not.
I think the lack of a VF can often be a positive thing as it allows you to position the camera in different shooting positions. I've bought the EVF twice over and while it works well, it really makes the camera far less portable and gives you one extra thing to worry about losing. More so, I find it causes me to pretty much shoot everything from a typical standing height. When I'm not using the EVF I find I tend to try high and low angle shooting etc, using the LCD screen more.
LCD = position camera for best shot, while EVF = stand there and stick it up to my eye level
Of course the EVF does tilt, and doesn't limit creativity in any way, its just that I find it makes me lazier (for lack of better term) with how I approach photography using it.
In the end, just doesn't seem to add enough to the shooting experience to warrant the cost and other tradeoffs it requires so I end up selling them
p.169 #4 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Sometimes less is too little.
millsart, your post is OK in every way but I have to say it mainly serves to show how different we all are.
I bought the EVF as soon as it was available. I take it off very seldom, only when in need of attaching a flash radio trigger. I always have the camera in a bag, standing on the side and I never worried about the viewfinder as I secured it using the rubber band method.
I'm among those hoping for a taller RX2 with an in-built and tiltable EVF at the left side. Make the (touch!) screen tiltable as well, add a cable connector for an external flash, add an IR-port or two for a remote and I'm sold.
p.169 #5 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
EVF is nice, but I found that with dSLT I have where I thought I will use EVF a lot I actually ended shooting almost everything via LCD. Tho truth is, EVF in A35 is crappy one. Even Panny G1 had better..
But still, big nice LCD makes life pretty good. I get why he prefers that.. Also ability to compose via LCD as long as your hands reach isnt bad either.
p.169 #6 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
I'd actually love and surely buy a RX2 with built-in EVF and would love a touch sensitive LCD Jonas.
The GX7 I used to have had the ability to use the LCD to select an AF point even while your eye was up to the EVF and it was just an awesome combination. Touch LCD's are simply pretty awesome for AF point selection in general and a feature I sorely miss on Sony/Fuji products
Likewise, I really like, and use for about 75% of shots, the EVF on the A7(x) series camera. Its not only a fantastic EVF but its also just always readily there.
Really kind of weird given all that how I just couldn't get on with the RX1 add on EVF, and like I mentioned, I even bought it twice over.
I tried clip on EVF's on a few Olympus camera's and also Sony's earlier version on a NEX camera and didn't care for those either though.
Guess maybe it just comes down to the form factor (or lack there of) above everything else. As anyone who's shopped for a bag for the RX1 knows, stick that EVF on there and suddenly it doesn't fit into anything.
Little of it is worry too, I used to knock mine off before I tried rubber bands (and then a layer of gaffers tape for good measure) and still would worry a little. Why, oh why, did you not but a lock feature on a $450 accessory Sony ? lol
Last but not least, I think on my second time buying it, I found it didn't quite compare to the A7 series EVF for me. The RX1 on the other hand I came to love even more as a camera/lens combo, but the EVF was a little harder to use as you had to have your eye positioned in the very center or else the edges of the display looked sort of blurry. The A7 series seemed to have a bit more eye relief overall.
Pretty good EVF overall, and I would expect myself to have one, but just couldn't get along with it that well, at least for the price.
I think the fact the RX1 has a very viewable LCD, even in bright sunlight, also helps a lot. Probably the most viewable LCD I've owned. So many camera's become totally unusable in a bright day because you just can't read/see anything on them.
Maybe if I saw one for $200 or something I'd pick it up again, who knows lol
p.169 #7 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Maybe part of the reason for me being able to coop with the RX1 EVF is that the camera basically is a little too small. I added the RRS grip and the EVF and voila! Something to hold on to, and something working all day.
As I said, we are different.
Sony being Sony and myself being nobody I'm afraid there never will be an RX2. Still, sometimes I dream about it and with a couple of minor changes to the current body it would be The Camera.
For now I live with the Rx1 with the extras (add some friction tape here and there and a small button on the shutter release). Great stuff. Cheers.
p.169 #8 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
There would be near universal support (and a very healthy market) for a 36Mp sensor 'drop in'; a7 style ergo treatment, and integrated EVF. That's all it takes, could be run up inside a month of design work.
Not sure if anyone notices this, but the EVF in the RX1 is much less effective than the a7r version. It produces quite garish color, which has the effect of putting me off a little. I have to look past it. But the results are still as truly spectacular as when the little guy wandered into my bag almost two years ago.
I said it then and was mildly pooh poohed for it, but the RX1 had all the hallmarks of an instant classic - for those with eyes to see.
It might well be that this was Sony's 'let's see what we can do' camera, and may well have cost them money - it is built like a fine little brick, and the hand assembly cannot be cheap.
p.169 #10 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
Amazingly clean for such high ISOs! I've just upped my auto ISO limit after looking at your photos, I could do with the headroom, especially when doing IR like these (cross posted with the IR thread):
p.169 #12 · Sony RX1, RX1R, RX1R II and RX1R III Image Thread
I think mine was set to top out at 6400, can't remember if that was default or if I read it was the highest native setting before the camera begins "pushing"
