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p.4 #1 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


I may take a holiday to the US and pick up a D800 (and test it before returning), there are enough independent places if anything goes wrong. May also investigate EU options since apparently the warranty is EU wide - euro exchange rate may scupper things though.

tonyhart wrote:
Check out OneStop Digital or Digital Rev.


Would you really buy a £2600 camera from a Chinese internet site?



Mar 27, 2012 at 08:26 AM
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Dave_EP wrote:
Well, the problem is not tax alone. Take off the tax and the 'before tax' price is still MUCH higher - like $7,200 instead of $6,000. WHY?




You are correct, but again look mainly to your government. The cost of doing buisness in the UK is higher than in the US for a variety of reasons. Higher taxes in general is one (not justs sales and VAT taxes, but other taxes that get passed on). I suspect there are more regulations in the UK as well ... lots of regulations generally make things more expensive over the long run (or causes long lines as demand exceeds supply for the given price).



Mar 27, 2012 at 09:08 AM
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Dave_EP wrote:
Well, the problem is not tax alone. Take off the tax and the 'before tax' price is still MUCH higher - like $7,200 instead of $6,000. WHY?



i meant the video tax, not VAT



Mar 27, 2012 at 09:12 AM
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p.4 #4 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


I don't know about the video tax, sounds a bit odd to me but then nothing would surprise me with this country.

At the current exchangre rate I would pay the following if bought from the US:

D4 - £3,761
D800 - £1,880
D800E - £2,068

In the UK I would pay the following:

D4 - £5,299 ($8,454 - WTF!!!)
D800 - £2,599 ($4,147)
D800E - £2,899 ($4,625)

Daylight robbery I think. Even if you add in the taxes that you pay (I still don't understand you tax system at all) it still works out much cheaper.

So, would any of you pay $8,454 for a Nikon D4



Mar 27, 2012 at 09:29 AM
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p.4 #5 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


For grins and giggles I added one to my B&H shopping cart and used free shipping to NYC zip code since the web site didn't give me the option for in store pickup.

Then you just have to wait for them to get one in for your turn

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/838794-REG/Nikon_25482_D4_Digital_SLR_Camera.html

SubTotal: $5,999.95
Sales Tax: $532.50
Order Total: $6,532.45 <-- price out the door in USD after sales taxes in NY, including state and city



ct8282 wrote:
I don't know about the video tax, sounds a bit odd to me but then nothing would surprise me with this country.

At the current exchangre rate I would pay the following if bought from the US:

D4 - £3,761
D800 - £1,880
D800E - £2,068

In the UK I would pay the following:

D4 - £5,299 ($8,454 - WTF!!!)
D800 - £2,599 ($4,147)
D800E - £2,899 ($4,625)

Daylight robbery I think. Even if you add in the taxes that you pay (I still don't understand you tax system at all) it still works out much cheaper.

So, would any of you pay $8,454 for a Nikon D4




Mar 27, 2012 at 09:54 AM
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Thats a grand total of £4,095. A hefty saving indeed. UK sucks


Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02 AM
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p.4 #7 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


I don't think it has anything to do with a video tax.

It is plain and simple.

Nikon has seen fantastic pre-orders for the new cameras and has seen that there have also been phenominal pre-orders for the Canon cameras as well.

So they have decided to hike the price.

It is plain BS from Nikon. Internal error = BS.

If it loks like BS, smells like BS and tastes like BS - it is BS...



Mar 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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p.4 #8 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


yea . germany is not that much different.
i paid 2436Eur for D800 without VAT (on company), thats about $3,247

we at least vote and protest for a change whenever we can



Mar 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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Yep. I would have to agree.

I can just imagine the management meeting now...

'look sir, we've had 3 times as many pre-orders for our new cameras than we originally forecast'.

'ah yes. Perfect. We can increase the price to something even more rediculous and people will just have to pay more. More more more! ha ha'.

'but sir, we had better issue some BS statement about some BS systems error. We should honour orders at the original over inflated BS price as we'll still make huge margins on them and then everyone else who wants one can bend over a barrell and get b*tt fu*ked by us'.

'Ah yes.. Butt f*cked. More more more'.

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Mar 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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bigrob wrote:
I don't think it has anything to do with a video tax.

It is plain and simple.

Nikon has seen fantastic pre-orders for the new cameras and has seen that there have also been phenominal pre-orders for the Canon cameras as well.

So they have decided to hike the price.

It is plain BS from Nikon. Internal error = BS.

If it loks like BS, smells like BS and tastes like BS - it is BS...


Yup, since they can't keep up with demand anyway and the 5DmkIII is selling like hot cakes at £3k way not screw the UK?



Mar 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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Kittyk wrote:
i meant the video tax, not VAT


No video tax on it - which is why we're all limited to 29m59s on video. Another stupid law brought in to protect the French VCR industry that no longer exists now anyway!

Once a tax has been added it's almost impossible to get it removed.



Mar 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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Are you serious. FFS


Mar 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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Dave_EP wrote:
No video tax on it - which is why we're all limited to 29m59s on video. Another stupid law brought in to protect the French VCR industry that no longer exists now anyway!

Once a tax has been added it's almost impossible to get it removed.


that's what they thought. but with HDMI out without menu icons it is real nonstop video camera. Hence the "system error". They thought they will do away with 29m59s limitation, but they forgot about this new "feature", so there needs to be video tax



Mar 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM
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Kittyk wrote:
that's what they thought. but with HDMI out without menu icons it is real nonstop video camera. Hence the "system error". They thought they will do away with 29m59s limitation, but they forgot about this new "feature", so there needs to be video tax


Well, that would require the entire Euro zone to increase prices by 14% (plus dealer markup) too, which doesn't appear to be happening..... unless I missed something. The tax is not UK only, it's Europe wide.

Since we're supposed to be a single economic union I would have thought it should be illegal to have such restrictive practices like the warranty policy they have, which at the end of the day is the only thing stopping UK buyers hoping over to Euroland and buying there.



Mar 27, 2012 at 01:11 PM
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Dont buy now!!!
Its simple



Mar 27, 2012 at 01:19 PM
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p.4 #16 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


Besides, the HDMI thing doesn't have any effect, because on it's own it still can't record > 29m59s, it takes an external add-on to do it. The camera is no longer a video recorder at that point and is no different to a web-cam.


Mar 27, 2012 at 01:33 PM
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p.4 #17 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


Since UK is in EU, why not order from another EU country with smaller taxes?


Mar 27, 2012 at 01:40 PM
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Dave_EP wrote:
Besides, the HDMI thing doesn't have any effect, because on it's own it still can't record > 29m59s, it takes an external add-on to do it. The camera is no longer a video recorder at that point and is no different to a web-cam.


A webcam with Iso 6400, a full frame sensor and interchangeable lenses.



Mar 27, 2012 at 01:43 PM
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Sami Ruusunen wrote:
Since UK is in EU, why not order from another EU country with smaller taxes?


Not all of the EU is euro, the exchange rate is prohibitive.



Mar 27, 2012 at 02:14 PM
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p.4 #20 · Come to the UK and get fu*king robbed!


Mark_L wrote:
Not all of the EU is euro, the exchange rate is prohibitive.


I thought the rate of pound is not changing compared to euro?



Mar 27, 2012 at 02:20 PM
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