i think canon and Nikon are realizing that these are probably the last DSLR's anybody is going to buy for a long time. I mean until they cook up some new features to make you think you need, who's going to need to replace a D800 or 5D3 in the next five years? if consumers are only going to upgrade once every 7 years, youd better juice them for an extra grand or so to keep the cash flow going. canon figured this out and overpriced the mkiii... Nikon to follow suit? maybe they can blame it on supply chain problems?
Adaptability being one of the most valuable traits a man can acquire, I'd look for a mint-condition D3s, pocket a couple thousand quid, and move merrily on with my life.
goosemang wrote:
i think canon and Nikon are realizing that these are probably the last DSLR's anybody is going to buy for a long time. I mean until they cook up some new features to make you think you need, who's going to need to replace a D800 or 5D3 in the next five years?
Both of those cameras have some glaring weaknesses, so once would hope there will be improvements in the next few years, certainly less than five. They are both quite reasonably priced for the features, but somebody is always complaining about it. I wish the cameras had some improvements and would not mind paying even more more, but perhaps that is just me.
Are those prices you gave with or with your VAT added in? When comparing to USA prices taxes, generally, are omitted from the amount stated, since we have at least 10,000 separate taxing districts.
goosemang wrote:
i think canon and Nikon are realizing that these are probably the last DSLR's anybody is going to buy for a long time. I mean until they cook up some new features to make you think you need, who's going to need to replace a D800 or 5D3 in the next five years? if consumers are only going to upgrade once every 7 years, youd better juice them for an extra grand or so to keep the cash flow going. canon figured this out and overpriced the mkiii... Nikon to follow suit? maybe they can blame it on supply chain problems?...Show more →
There are thousands (millions? ) of new photogs every year. Don't think we current ones are the last of a dying breed. There will be many more DSLR's sold in the future.
The price increases are probably the work of the UK government... using financial pressure instead of wasting valuable police resources to crack down on photography in public places (a known terrorist activity!).
chez wrote:
There are thousands (millions? ) of new photogs every year. Don't think we current ones are the last of a dying breed. There will be many more DSLR's sold in the future.
oh, I don't mean to say the camera will sell for a bit and then the faucet will be shut off
I just think these cameras are getting so good that people don't need to upgrade as frequently, so they might as well charge us more for them.
in other words, if Nikon was getting $3000 for a camera that would usually be upgraded every 3 years, they were receiving $1000/year from the customer. if the same $3000 camera starts going 6 years before an upgrade they're only getting $500/year from that same customer. they know you can afford $1000/year, so bump up the new camera prices to take advantage of this. they're not looking to give you more bang for your buck, essentially
RoyC wrote:
Are those prices you gave with or with your VAT added in? When comparing to USA prices taxes, generally, are omitted from the amount stated, since we have at least 10,000 separate taxing districts.
And that's just in Atlanta!
I can't even begin to afford a D4. Am I depressed? Yes. I've been clinically depressed for years, and it is just an ongoing battle. Early in one of my "recoveries" from a quart of whiskey daily, a woman told me that "NO THING can make me happy. NO LOVER can make me happy. They may briefly enhance my happiness but they will not MAKE me happy. Happiness is an inside job." It took me a while to work through that one, but I eventually figured it out.
You now have a few thousand pounds at your disposal. Put it to good use by setting up a fund for the new baby. Before long you will realize just how expensive and important a baby is. Far more important than any camera ever will be.
Take the D7000, grab your wife, and take one picture daily. Same pose, same place, and every few days look at the photos and enjoy the subtle daily changes your wife's body is going through. THis has a dual purpose, and you will "get it" one day.
ct8282 wrote:
For the record I'm confident that I already know that my baby is more important than a camera.
We got that....
I tell you what.... If you like I can order one D4 for you here in the US.
I sold a few items here on FM B&S forum, (so you can trust me) and if you like I can simply buy you your D4 and ship it to you to UK. You can PayPal me money and I'll UPS you your D4.
The only problem is that the warranty won't transfer to UK. To you it'll be a grey market camera.
If you can live with that let's talk off line. Just PM me.
Greg
afaik it was because they didnt include new video tax on them. It was really a system error.
just MPAA - like tax.
but if you are so aggressive toward your country, have you been on last elections? When was last time you wrote letter to your senator, or organize protest meeting or at least petition against what you don't like? You know, hating on the net is simple, do something is what is hard. But on the internet, nobody sees you cry.
Ugh I held off for the price to drop after amazon uk dropped it for a while but have now instead got stung for an even higher amount. If this increase really is some kind of video tax I will be even more pissed off since I will probably never use video on it.
ct8282 wrote:
Dennis, The terms and conditions of a sale in the UK mean that only a contract of sale is made once goods have been exchanged in place for money. Therefore a pre-order is nothing more than an intention to buy goods and an intention to supply goods. Until they take payment and ship the goods there is no contract in place and the retailer can change the price, cancel the order or pretty much do what they like.
I agree that it seems morally wrong but since when did a retailer give a poop about morals? It's all about pounds and pence.
The D800 does not appeal as I do not want or need 36mp. The 4fps is not enough for me and the sheer versatility of the D4 covers me for every situation I would be up against.
James, I have not looked into euro prices yet. When spending so much money I always prefer to use local retailers in case I have problems....Show more →
dude, really sounds like the d3s is more than you need, maby even a gripped d700. if it's a strugle so find that extra bit of cash do your self a favour and go 2nd hand. there a couple of hoilidays worth of cash to be saved!!!
Yeah, maybe you're right. I know there are options, which I will need to start considering should if the price holding for pre March orders is not true.
Due to a local internal systems error, the incorrect RRPs on the D800, D800E and D4 products were communicated in the UK and Irish markets at the time of announcement. The correct RRPs for the products should have been D4: £5289.99, D800: £2,599.99 and D800E: £2,899.99. We would like to apologise sincerely to our customers for this unfortunate mistake, which has been corrected with immediate effect. We know that there has been strong consumer interest in these products and a high level of pre-orders placed with retailers; Nikon will be honouring the original prices to retailers on all customer pre-orders placed before March 24th 2012.
