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p.12 #1 · $3500 seriously ?


elader wrote:
and of course, the $490 BG-E11 Battery Grip (weather-resistant, with room for two batteries)

Really? $490 for a battery grip?


And $400 for a GPS plug in. Damn you can get an entire ipad for $400!



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:26 PM
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p.12 #2 · $3500 seriously ?


Alex Nail wrote:
Right, but if US sales tax is what 12%? Thats something like $3900. We are being asked for £3000! Thats about $4800!


More like 0 to 10% depending where



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:31 PM
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p.12 #3 · $3500 seriously ?


Lasse Eriksson wrote:
Yes this camera is obviously not for you. But then you have to buy another body that will fit your needs. It's not like Canon should change this camera so it will fit you

Exactly! What works great for one person is not so appealing to someone else. I don't get what people don't understand about that. I don't go around saying things like "oh..I don't get why you're so hard up for better autofocus" or "3 fps should be enough for anyone" :P

I never said I expected them to change this camera. But I can say that it is disappointing for those like me who were drawn to the Canon system by the combination of a high megapixel body (by comparison to what was available three years ago) and excellent TSE lenses which made the 5DII the camera of choice for architecture and landscape work. The 5DIII doesn't follow in that same tradition. It address what other people saw as shortcomings. Understandable. But the point is there is still a market segment not fulfilled by this.

(Also I don't necessarily need to buy another body. At least not right away. I plan to stick with my current setup for the time being. If Canon does not announce something else this year though I will probably start looking at other options down the road.)



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:33 PM
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p.12 #4 · $3500 seriously ?


cineski wrote:
I'd say this was true if Canon had announced first! But they announced after. I'd venture to say Canon's response to the D800 was keeping the 5D2 in production and moving the 5D3 into a "gap filler" role which it's not.



Yeah notice how they keep saying it is NOT a 5D2 replacement but something to sit between the 5D2 and 5D3? If that had really been the plan they would have called it a 3D and given it 7.5fps of the Aquatech rumor. They just say that now to they can try to charge $3500 since there camera, unlike the D800, does NOT replace the prior model....

Sort of like how they called the 1D5 the 1DX so they could charge half way or more to 1Ds prices for the 1D series.



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:36 PM
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p.12 #5 · $3500 seriously ?


Lasse Eriksson wrote:
If they didn't need a backup body before. Why do they suddenly need it when they buy this new camera

Who says they weren't using a prior generation camera as a backup body before then?



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:36 PM
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p.12 #6 · $3500 seriously ?


Ziffl3 wrote:
and as for price increase - why would a new camera cost the same as an earlier model?


Maybe because the 30D cost less than the 20D and the 40D and 50D cost less than the 20D and the 5D2 cost less than the 5D and Nikon hasn't upped their prices any. So by past history it actually should have cost less if anything. Looking at the D800 it simply should not be above the $3000 of that body.



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:38 PM
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p.12 #7 · $3500 seriously ?


Peter Le wrote:
It is not the same AF as you will soon find out


Why do you say it is not the same AF? I feared it wouldn't be when they talked about simplified, but so far I've read that is uses the exact same AF detector, has all of the same options, uses the same exact AI Servo algorithms and an AF chip that is 4x faster than the one in the 1D4 (maybe the 1DX chip is faster still though) so all it lacks is the auto-face/color tracking system, everything else appears to be 100% full on 1DX AF so it seems like it's barely simplied at all, but pretty much the same thing.



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:41 PM
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p.12 #8 · $3500 seriously ?


In 1992 I bought a new Nikon F4s for around $2200.00 retail, with inflation that is equal to about $3600.00 today, I guess the price of the 5DIII isn't so crazy.


Mar 02, 2012 at 09:43 PM
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p.12 #9 · $3500 seriously ?


RobertLynn wrote:
If it had 8fps, I wouldn't peep once about the price.


if it had 30MP and 6fps I would not peep one bit

if it had 22MP and 8fps I would not peep one bit

if it had 22MP and 7fps i would peep once and then be quiet

22MP and 6fps makes me peep for 16,000 frames in a row though at $3500

22MP and 6fps at $2700 i would not peep one bit

22MP and 6fps at $3000 and I might peep a few times




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Mar 02, 2012 at 09:48 PM
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p.12 #10 · $3500 seriously ?


Chris Beaumont wrote:
So now you're changing YOUR OWN QUESTION to fit your own answer?

It's like inception.


I'm still working my way through this thread, but I just had to highlight this on page 7, as it made me snort : D



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:48 PM
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artd wrote:
Who says they weren't using a prior generation camera as a backup body before then?


So then they need 2 backup bodies when buying the new camera?



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:49 PM
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p.12 #12 · $3500 seriously ?


Ralph Conway wrote:
Robert, what camera gives you 8 FPS for $ 3500?


7D or D700 or the Sony something or other model



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:49 PM
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p.12 #13 · $3500 seriously ?


skibum5 wrote:
Why do you say it is not the same AF? I feared it wouldn't be when they talked about simplified, but so far I've read that is uses the exact same AF detector, has all of the same options, uses the same exact AI Servo algorithms and an AF chip that is 4x faster than the one in the 1D4 (maybe the 1DX chip is faster still though) so all it lacks is the auto-face/color tracking system, everything else appears to be 100% full on 1DX AF so it seems like it's barely simplied at all, but pretty much the
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Yes it is the same AF. Just without the auto-face/color tracking.



Mar 02, 2012 at 09:53 PM
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skibum5 wrote:
if it had 30MP and 6fps I would not peep one bit

if it had 22MP and 8fps I would not peep one bit

if it had 22MP and 7fps i would peep a once and then be quiet

22MP and 6fps makes me peep for 16,000 frames in a row though at $3500

22MP and 6fps at $2700 i would not peep one bit

22MP and 6fps at $3000 and I might peep a few times



If many fps is the most important thing. Why not buy a used 1D2, 1D2N or 1D3 for a much lower cost Or even a used 1D4



Mar 02, 2012 at 10:00 PM
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p.12 #15 · $3500 seriously ?


I am very late to the party, but wasn't the original 5D somewhere near there when it first arrived? I am not surprised or upset in the least.


Mar 02, 2012 at 10:06 PM
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p.12 #16 · $3500 seriously ?


Ektar25 wrote:
In 1992 I bought a new Nikon F4s for around $2200.00 retail, with inflation that is equal to about $3600.00 today, I guess the price of the 5DIII isn't so crazy.


In 1992 I bought a 33mz 486 computer for around $2,500. Using the same comparative logic the price of the 5DIII is totally insane.

There may be lots of good reasons to spend $3500 on the camera but some of the justifications for the price are really stretching it pretty thin. If folks think it is a fair price or priced so that they can make a fair return for their investment then go for it. Seems out of whack to me but I can't do a damn thing about so I'll factor that belief into what ever buying decision I make.



Mar 02, 2012 at 10:12 PM
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p.12 #17 · $3500 seriously ?


At 2008 price of $2699, yen conversion at the time is 287,905. At 2012 price of $3499, converts to 284,468 yen.


Mar 02, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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p.12 #18 · $3500 seriously ?


I probably need to avoid all camera gear websites for the next couple of years until the price comes down.


Mar 02, 2012 at 11:02 PM
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p.12 #19 · $3500 seriously ?


Sven Jeppesen wrote:
If many fps is the most important thing. Why not buy a used 1D2, 1D2N or 1D3 for a much lower cost Or even a used 1D4


because small body size and MP and movies also matter



Mar 02, 2012 at 11:29 PM
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p.12 #20 · $3500 seriously ?


dehowie wrote:
I can stone cold guarrantee you the MK2 was way more than 2000 at launch. Why compare price on a brand new state of the art camera with way more capability with one now 3-4 years old at the end of its tech cycle.


I believe it was about $2500, though I might be off a bit.



Mar 02, 2012 at 11:30 PM
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