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p.6 #1EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
I'm also pretty sure this camera will be a lot more expensive than most of you are hoping. There are *three* DIGIC processors in it--two DIGIC 5, and one DIGIC 4. That is completely unheard of in the history of EOS. There's an entirely new AF sensor with an unheard-of 61 AF points, all cross-type; and that's handled by the DIGIC 4. That's a lot of processing power devoted to just...Show more →
Uh, maybe I've misread something, but I don't see any mention that they've carried over a Digic IV. There's a photo of the main logic board in the OP now, and there's no Digic IV there either?
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
I'm also pretty sure this camera will be a lot more expensive than most of you are hoping. There are *three* DIGIC processors in it--two DIGIC 5, and one DIGIC 4. That is completely unheard of in the history of EOS. There's an entirely new AF sensor with an unheard-of 61 AF points, all cross-type; and that's handled by the DIGIC 4. That's a lot of processing power devoted to just...Show more →
Uh, maybe I've misread something, but I don't see any mention that they've carried over a Digic IV. There's a photo of the main logic board in the OP now, and there's no Digic IV there either?
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:48 PM
p.6 #2EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
In the previous 1D-series bodies, most points were either linear f/5.6 or a mix of f/2.8 and f/5.6 cross-type.
The EOS 7D was the first camera to employ cross-type sensors that were f/5.6 in both directions, as far as I am aware.
When an f/5.6 AF sensor looks through an f/5.6 lens, it operates within f/5.6 depth of focus precision, which is adequate since the lens itself is f/5.6.
When an f/5.6 AF sensor looks through a lens faster than f/5.6, the sensor will operate, but the resulting depth of focus precision *may* not be sufficient to achieve accurate AF, especially if the...Show more →
Thanks, I meant to say x-type in 1 series @ f/5.6. I knew 7D had this already.
But it sounds like great news and let's hope RG doesn't find a problem
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Pixel Perfect wrote
I agree, and it's great to finally see AF points that are x-type at f/5.6.The EOS 7D was the first camera to employ cross-type sensors that were f/5.6 in both directions, as far as I am aware.
When an f/5.6 AF sensor looks through an f/5.6 lens, it operates within f/5.6 depth of focus precision, which is adequate since the lens itself is f/5.6.
When an f/5.6 AF sensor looks through a lens faster than f/5.6, the sensor will operate, but the resulting depth of focus precision *may* not be sufficient to achieve accurate AF, especially if the...Show more →
Thanks, I meant to say x-type in 1 series @ f/5.6. I knew 7D had this already.
But it sounds like great news and let's hope RG doesn't find a problem
.Oct 17, 2011 at 09:48 PM
p.6 #4EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Merging likely not. But could be getting rid of the 1.3x sensor which is really sad.
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:50 PM
p.6 #6EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
Why not, though? They could have just added the 'X' to differentiate it from the 1D series--it is, after all, a new generation of camera. I'd bet my bottom dollar the 1Ds will live on as a high MP pro camera in one form or another.
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
Why not, though? They could have just added the 'X' to differentiate it from the 1D series--it is, after all, a new generation of camera. I'd bet my bottom dollar the 1Ds will live on as a high MP pro camera in one form or another.
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:52 PM
p.6 #7EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
omarlyn wrote:
"ISO is 100-51200 in 1/3 stop increments, L is ISO 50, H1 is 102400, H2 is 204800.
3 frame rates: 14fps, 12fps, 3 fps."
Some of these specs are insane!
Omar
ISO 204800 !!!
Let's hope it's at least as good as ISO 102400 on 1D IV, which still may mean it sucks, but that now ISO 102400 is at least as good as Nikon D3s at 51200.
I'll be grateful if ISO 12800 is usable for A3+ prints
"ISO is 100-51200 in 1/3 stop increments, L is ISO 50, H1 is 102400, H2 is 204800.
3 frame rates: 14fps, 12fps, 3 fps."
Some of these specs are insane!
Omar
ISO 204800 !!!
Let's hope it's at least as good as ISO 102400 on 1D IV, which still may mean it sucks, but that now ISO 102400 is at least as good as Nikon D3s at 51200.
I'll be grateful if ISO 12800 is usable for A3+ prints
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:54 PM
p.6 #8EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
I like how it clean it is on the front, as far as lack of numbers, etc. I doubt they are getting rid of the 1.3 crop. This could be for people who want a FF camera that can shoot blistering fast. I'd guess $6499
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:56 PM
p.6 #9EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
... There are *three* DIGIC processors in it--two DIGIC 5, and one DIGIC 4...
Subject tracking AF while recording 1080p video... gonna get toasty!
... There are *three* DIGIC processors in it--two DIGIC 5, and one DIGIC 4...
Subject tracking AF while recording 1080p video... gonna get toasty!
Oct 17, 2011 at 09:56 PM
p.6 #10EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
M Vers wrote:
Why not, though? They could have just added the 'X' to differentiate it from the 1D series--it is, after all, a new generation of camera. I'd bet my bottom dollar the 1Ds will live on as a high MP pro camera in one form or another.
I agree with Matt. This is definitely not the landscape or fine art camera Canon is working on as we speak. There is a good chance it may be announced next year in February at the PMA. So, I hope.
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.
M Vers wrote:
Why not, though? They could have just added the 'X' to differentiate it from the 1D series--it is, after all, a new generation of camera. I'd bet my bottom dollar the 1Ds will live on as a high MP pro camera in one form or another.
I agree with Matt. This is definitely not the landscape or fine art camera Canon is working on as we speak. There is a good chance it may be announced next year in February at the PMA. So, I hope
.Oct 17, 2011 at 09:59 PM
p.6 #11EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Nice. Hope the AF tracks as good as it sounds. 
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM
p.6 #12EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
The ISOs seriously need to be reset to the original progression, i.e., multiples of 16, 25, 32, 40, 50, 64, 80, and 125. There should be 1600, 2000, 2500, 3200, 6400, 125,000, 160,000, 200,000, 250,000, and so on. The crazy fractionalization is meaningless compared to the accuracy of the photo sensitivy. After all, the exact mathematically progressive increments (cube root of 2) are not used for the lower speeds.
EBH
EBH
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM
p.6 #13EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
"Traditionally, top model in Canon's digital SLR cameras, especially with better image quality "1Ds" the best performance and high-speed series "1D" was deployed in two lines of the series. New product "EOS-1D X" to unify them is the flagship model that combines the highest level of professional performance and high-quality high-speed performance. "
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:02 PM
p.6 #14EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
http://cdn.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/1dspoints.jpg
When are we going to see a camera with an ingeniously designed AF array with a wider point spread? Are there technical design issues preventing this from happening?
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When are we going to see a camera with an ingeniously designed AF array with a wider point spread? Are there technical design issues preventing this from happening?
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Oct 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM
p.6 #16EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
^ That is the nikon 51point AF. Count the dots. The new canon layout is 5x4, 7x3, 5x4.
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Oct 17, 2011 at 10:07 PM
p.6 #17EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Danielkl wrote:
^ That is the nikon 51point AF. Count the dots.
Ah, I see now...
^ That is the nikon 51point AF. Count the dots.
Ah, I see now...
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM
p.6 #18EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Danielkl wrote:
"Traditionally, top model in Canon's digital SLR cameras, especially with better image quality "1Ds" the best performance and high-speed series "1D" was deployed in two lines of the series. New product "EOS-1D X" to unify them is the flagship model that combines the highest level of professional performance and high-quality high-speed performance. "
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
That would seem to imply that implicitly, if not explicitly?
Although I think the timing of the Olympics had a large bearing on the specifications of this body, with a bent towards speed and photojournalism.
It will be interesting to see where they take the 5Dx... perhaps it will become the large mp count and video platform?
"Traditionally, top model in Canon's digital SLR cameras, especially with better image quality "1Ds" the best performance and high-speed series "1D" was deployed in two lines of the series. New product "EOS-1D X" to unify them is the flagship model that combines the highest level of professional performance and high-quality high-speed performance. "
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
That would seem to imply that implicitly, if not explicitly?
Although I think the timing of the Olympics had a large bearing on the specifications of this body, with a bent towards speed and photojournalism.
It will be interesting to see where they take the 5Dx... perhaps it will become the large mp count and video platform?
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM
p.6 #19EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Danielkl wrote:
"Traditionally, top model in Canon's digital SLR cameras, especially with better image quality "1Ds" the best performance and high-speed series "1D" was deployed in two lines of the series. New product "EOS-1D X" to unify them is the flagship model that combines the highest level of professional performance and high-quality high-speed performance. "
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
For now the 1D-X has simply unacceptable quality for many users, but in 5, 10, or 20 years the resolution may be higher and there would be no need for a 1Ds series.
EBH
"Traditionally, top model in Canon's digital SLR cameras, especially with better image quality "1Ds" the best performance and high-speed series "1D" was deployed in two lines of the series. New product "EOS-1D X" to unify them is the flagship model that combines the highest level of professional performance and high-quality high-speed performance. "
That was from the Nikkei release, translated to english. I'm extremely sad to say, I think the 1Ds is dead.
For now the 1D-X has simply unacceptable quality for many users, but in 5, 10, or 20 years the resolution may be higher and there would be no need for a 1Ds series.
EBH
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:10 PM
p.6 #20EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
M Vers wrote:
Why not, though? They could have just added the 'X' to differentiate it from the 1D series--it is, after all, a new generation of camera. I'd bet my bottom dollar the 1Ds will live on as a high MP pro camera in one form or another.
I think I agree. The X designation may be to indicate a total break from current 1D (non s) series. A 1D V could sound like just an evolution, but this is more a revolution. What would they call new 1Ds if it's based on most of this tech. 1Ds but is 30MP+; surely X
Is that what the Hollywood show will reveal?
wickerprints wrote
I'm pretty sure this camera is the sole successor to the 1D4 and 1Ds3. Canon wouldn't use a special designation "X" if they intended to keep these product lines separate.I think I agree. The X designation may be to indicate a total break from current 1D (non s) series. A 1D V could sound like just an evolution, but this is more a revolution. What would they call new 1Ds if it's based on most of this tech. 1Ds but is 30MP+; surely X
Is that what the Hollywood show will reveal?
Oct 17, 2011 at 10:11 PM