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p.15 #1EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Congratulations to all who have been waiting for this camera! It does indeed look fantastic, a one camera can do it all for a very broad range of applications.
It is not a camera for me, and still I am relaxed and happy, because everything points towards another very high resolution camera in the not too distant future. When it comes, we can enjoy it without the cries of those who hate to have more resolution than they need.
It is not a camera for me, and still I am relaxed and happy, because everything points towards another very high resolution camera in the not too distant future. When it comes, we can enjoy it without the cries of those who hate to have more resolution than they need.
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:03 AM
p.15 #3EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
I owe Canon a shout out for including directional data in the GPS. That is innovative. Good innovation in the instant zoom to focus point and the digital level. Love all three. But need them in a landscape body yesterday. Cambridge in Color has a good article on digitial vs the human eye and I think he says that our eyes, for about a 20 degree field in the direction we are looking, are seeing about 54 mp of data. You did good Canon...just give us 54 for the landscapers.
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:17 AM
p.15 #4EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
WTB: Your soon-to-be out-of-date, terrible, 1D4.
John
John
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:17 AM
p.15 #5EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
I couldn't see this link, but apologies if its already here somewhere
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:18 AM
p.15 #6EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
wickerprints wrote:
EBHMy post was not addressed to you.
Look, I don't understand why people are bringing up a hypothetical D800 and comparing it to this 1D X. They're not for the same target audience, folks. The 1D X is the next flagship EOS body. The D800, whatever it's going to be, isn't going to be Nikon's flagship. So complaining that the 1D X is too expensive or too bulky doesn't make sense. You can be assured that Canon will offer a successor to the 5D2; we just don't know what it will be.
We don't even know what a D800 will have, and...Show more →
I understand that, and I'm not all hyped up on the crazy MP rumors of D800...but, it could/should be easily be in the same MP range as the 1D X and have fairly competitive features at less than half the price? i.e. 80% of the camera at half the price or something similar....likely the case, then who will sell more bodies if Canon doesn't respond to the D800? The D800 market dwarf's the 7K+ 1D X market. That's all I'm saying. So let's all hope for the revamped 5DIII or 3D.
artsupreme wrote
Well they better do something with the 5DIII or release the 3D because if this ridiculously expensive 1D X is the only FF Canon offering with good AF and decent fps the D800 is going to smash them...EB-1 wrote
That would be OK too.EBH
wickerprints wrote
So why don't you just GTFO out and shoot Nikon already, if you hate Canon so much? Or do you just enjoy trolling the forums?artsupreme wrote
I never said I hated anything, if fact I love Canon and that's why I shoot it. In fact I love everything about the new body, except for the price and size of course. I'm into value and more compact bodies. There's nothing wrong with accepting the competition has something that we do not have....yet. I'm still hoping for the 3D or whatever is going to compete with the D700/D800.Look, I don't understand why people are bringing up a hypothetical D800 and comparing it to this 1D X. They're not for the same target audience, folks. The 1D X is the next flagship EOS body. The D800, whatever it's going to be, isn't going to be Nikon's flagship. So complaining that the 1D X is too expensive or too bulky doesn't make sense. You can be assured that Canon will offer a successor to the 5D2; we just don't know what it will be.
We don't even know what a D800 will have, and...Show more →
I understand that, and I'm not all hyped up on the crazy MP rumors of D800...but, it could/should be easily be in the same MP range as the 1D X and have fairly competitive features at less than half the price? i.e. 80% of the camera at half the price or something similar....likely the case, then who will sell more bodies if Canon doesn't respond to the D800? The D800 market dwarf's the 7K+ 1D X market. That's all I'm saying. So let's all hope for the revamped 5DIII or 3D.
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:18 AM
p.15 #7EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
gowhow wrote:
I couldn't see this link, but apologies if its already here somewhere
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
ah you just beat me to it
they are so small though they don't really tell you anything, but still cool to look at the first 1D X samples anyway
I couldn't see this link, but apologies if its already here somewhere
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
ah you just beat me to it
they are so small though they don't really tell you anything, but still cool to look at the first 1D X samples anyway
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:19 AM
p.15 #8EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
And some drum and base
http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:19 AM
p.15 #9EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
gowhow wrote:
I couldn't see this link, but apologies if its already here somewhere
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
Well, with the first sample image, we know what kind of photographers Canon is trying to market this camera to.
I couldn't see this link, but apologies if its already here somewhere
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html
Well, with the first sample image, we know what kind of photographers Canon is trying to market this camera to.
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:36 AM
p.15 #10EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Daan B wrote:
Where is Canon going with this? Combining the speed of the 1D series and the FF sensor of the 1Ds series. End of both series perhaps? I mean, what is the advantage of the 1D series after this... apart from the 1.3x sensor for reach maybe. FF sensor will be cleaner at higher ISO's anyway. It seems like they are trying to combat the excellent FF / speedy Nikon bodies (like the D700/D3 series) with this one.
Yes, finally this is the unification of the professional line into a single, do-all camera, and I suspect this means the end of the 1Ds.
The fact that many professionals without requirements for high speed shooting quickly chose the 5D Mark II over the 1DsIII was really the writing on the wall (as was the reaction that many Nikon shooters had to the pricing of the D3x). Pixels alone are simply not enough to justify the cost of such a camera, and the requirements of studio and landscape photography can be satisfied in a slower, less extremely built platform.
So for the high-resolution crowd, I expect we'll see either an EOS-3D and / or a 5D Mark III that will be similar in concept to the rumored D800.
Like the 7D was before it, I imagine this camera will be a big step up from the previous offerings (5DC/5DII) in terms of AF performance and construction quality. Canon seems intent on addressing every criticism and closing every gap with its competition.
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 01:47 AM · View previous versions
Where is Canon going with this? Combining the speed of the 1D series and the FF sensor of the 1Ds series. End of both series perhaps? I mean, what is the advantage of the 1D series after this... apart from the 1.3x sensor for reach maybe. FF sensor will be cleaner at higher ISO's anyway. It seems like they are trying to combat the excellent FF / speedy Nikon bodies (like the D700/D3 series) with this one.
Yes, finally this is the unification of the professional line into a single, do-all camera, and I suspect this means the end of the 1Ds.
The fact that many professionals without requirements for high speed shooting quickly chose the 5D Mark II over the 1DsIII was really the writing on the wall (as was the reaction that many Nikon shooters had to the pricing of the D3x). Pixels alone are simply not enough to justify the cost of such a camera, and the requirements of studio and landscape photography can be satisfied in a slower, less extremely built platform.
So for the high-resolution crowd, I expect we'll see either an EOS-3D and / or a 5D Mark III that will be similar in concept to the rumored D800.
Like the 7D was before it, I imagine this camera will be a big step up from the previous offerings (5DC/5DII) in terms of AF performance and construction quality. Canon seems intent on addressing every criticism and closing every gap with its competition.
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 01:47 AM · View previous versions
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:36 AM
p.15 #11EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
skibum5 wrote:
yeah this new AF system sounds so much more advanced that they well could be free to even just plop the full on 1D4 AF into 5 series perhaps
Well they could have plopped the 1D II AF into the 5D II for example, but I doubt they will ever hand it down. 5D III will either get 7D AF (lame) or a new AF IMO
yeah this new AF system sounds so much more advanced that they well could be free to even just plop the full on 1D4 AF into 5 series perhaps
Well they could have plopped the 1D II AF into the 5D II for example, but I doubt they will ever hand it down. 5D III will either get 7D AF (lame) or a new AF IMO
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:45 AM
p.15 #12EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Daan B wrote:
Right... I pity people who just bought a 1D4.
Not if you are a birder/wildlifer and reach is paramount. The 1D X will necessitate the use of a longer FL to get similar pixel per duck. 1D IV has 23% more reach when FL limited, so that's the difference between using a 500 and 600 effectively.
Let's hope performance more than makes up for this shortcoming.
Right... I pity people who just bought a 1D4.
Not if you are a birder/wildlifer and reach is paramount. The 1D X will necessitate the use of a longer FL to get similar pixel per duck. 1D IV has 23% more reach when FL limited, so that's the difference between using a 500 and 600 effectively.
Let's hope performance more than makes up for this shortcoming.
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:50 AM
p.15 #13EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
gowhow wrote:
And some drum and base
http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
OMIGOSH
Did you see whose Flickr account it is
inrsoul's
Of course it is all in the mind
Tim
And some drum and base
http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
OMIGOSH
Did you see whose Flickr account it is
inrsoul's
Of course it is all in the mind
Tim
Oct 18, 2011 at 01:53 AM
p.15 #14EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Daan B wrote:
Right... I pity people who just bought a 1D4.
Errm, why? Does that mean every time a new camera is launched all previous models turn in to a pile of junk?
I'm actually glad I bought my 1D4 8 months ago because it means I managed get a 1 series body before they got out of my price range.
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 02:05 AM · View previous versions
Right... I pity people who just bought a 1D4.
Errm, why? Does that mean every time a new camera is launched all previous models turn in to a pile of junk?
I'm actually glad I bought my 1D4 8 months ago because it means I managed get a 1 series body before they got out of my price range. Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 02:05 AM · View previous versions
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:00 AM
p.15 #15EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Not if you are a birder/wildlifer and reach is paramount. The 1D X will necessitate the use of a longer FL to get similar pixel per duck. 1D IV has 23% more reach when FL limited, so that's the difference between using a 500 and 600 effectively.
Let's hope performance more than makes up for this shortcoming.
If the camera works at all as described it should do so... Though if pixels per duck is the most important requirement, there is always the 7D.
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 02:10 AM · View previous versions
Daan B wrote
Right... I pity people who just bought a 1D4.Let's hope performance more than makes up for this shortcoming.
If the camera works at all as described it should do so... Though if pixels per duck is the most important requirement, there is always the 7D.
Edited on Oct 18, 2011 at 02:10 AM · View previous versions
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:03 AM
p.15 #16EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
artsupreme wrote:
That's all I'm saying. So let's all hope for the revamped 5DIII or 3D.
Surely this will come... but not before Canon has had some time to sell as many $6.8K cameras it can.
Nikon could easily have introduced a 24Mp "D700x" two years ago, but I suspect they were paying careful attention to what transpired with Canon's flagship 1Ds after the 5D Mark II was introduced.
That's all I'm saying. So let's all hope for the revamped 5DIII or 3D.
Surely this will come... but not before Canon has had some time to sell as many $6.8K cameras it can.
Nikon could easily have introduced a 24Mp "D700x" two years ago, but I suspect they were paying careful attention to what transpired with Canon's flagship 1Ds after the 5D Mark II was introduced.
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:08 AM
p.15 #17EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
I like the following features: in-camera 9-image composite and in-camera CA removal
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:12 AM
p.15 #18EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
thw2 wrote:
I like the following features: in-camera 9-image composite and in-camera CA removal
Dang! You beat me to this.
Here's from the RobG post:
"New in-camera chromatic aberration correction, which can be enabled for stills and video."
Been wanting this for ages... though I suspect for stills it is only applied automatically to JPEGs and is metadata for RAW. Still, in DPP you've had to manually turn this on before, whereas with this camera it should pick up the in-camera setting automatically for RAW images, saving some steps.
I like the following features: in-camera 9-image composite and in-camera CA removal
Dang! You beat me to this.
Here's from the RobG post:
"New in-camera chromatic aberration correction, which can be enabled for stills and video."
Been wanting this for ages... though I suspect for stills it is only applied automatically to JPEGs and is metadata for RAW. Still, in DPP you've had to manually turn this on before, whereas with this camera it should pick up the in-camera setting automatically for RAW images, saving some steps.
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:16 AM
p.15 #19EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
You wouldn't want in-camera CA correction for raw files anyway. The whole point of raw is to record as much of the original image data that the camera saw; any corrections in post would simply be indicated as a set of directives to the raw converter, as is currently done.
But because video isn't recorded as raw, this feature is most welcome, as it can be applied on the fly without expensive frame-by-frame computation in post. And because it's also done for JPEGs, it's great for JPEG shooters, who presumably want to do as little processing on their files as they can.
Now if they could just make their fast-aperture primes with less axial CA, that would be awesome
But because video isn't recorded as raw, this feature is most welcome, as it can be applied on the fly without expensive frame-by-frame computation in post. And because it's also done for JPEGs, it's great for JPEG shooters, who presumably want to do as little processing on their files as they can.
Now if they could just make their fast-aperture primes with less axial CA, that would be awesome
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:23 AM
p.15 #20EOS 1D-X! March 2012!
The s designation on the 1Ds is supposed to mean Studio isn't it? Studio use isn't really where the 1D-X is aimed so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a competitor to the D3x released. The 1D-X is firing a direct broadside at the D3s as far I can see, offering a higher MP but better ISO?
Oct 18, 2011 at 02:30 AM