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I remember reading about that Noct lens grinding over in another Nikon forum. That takes a whole other skill level and justifies the name Doctor Lens for sure

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On the left is a Nikkor-SC Auto 1:1.2 f=55mm AI-ed Chipped with a Dandelion.
On the right is a Nikkor-PC Auto 1:2.5 f=105mm AI-ed Chipped with a regular Nikon chip.
The Dandelions are flimsy and my friend needed 3 of them.
The regular chips are much better, but not available anymore. I have another friend with good connections to Nikon and he had always a couple of these chips in his inventory.
The 55/1.2 is probably the only one in the world with a chip, he had to grind off a little bit of the glass.
He also chipped to 58/12 noct's, his nickname
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Feb 02, 2023 at 07:38 AM
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GeorgeBo wrote:
I remember reading about that Noct lens grinding over in another Nikon forum. That takes a whole other skill level and justifies the name Doctor Lens for sure



Yes, there's a tread on the Nikongear.net forum where you can follow the whole process.



Feb 02, 2023 at 07:59 AM
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p.1817 #3 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


George,
You can set aperture "ring" or "command dial" priority in Nikon's camera menu. Seems every model I have owned had this option. I always add it to my custom menu to make switching back and forth quick, because it feels like Nikon is always moving where that setting is located. So, for MF, I always set to ring.
Jim

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Only thing I don't like is you can't transfer aperture control to the lens and have to shoot it set to minimum aperture and use the front command dial or get the FEE message. Unless I am missing a setting. I know I can do it on the Df and the other DSLRs I had.






Feb 02, 2023 at 09:06 AM
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p.1817 #4 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Not finding that option anywhere in the Z bodies. All my DSLRs had the option but not seeing it on the Z.

On my Df it is under f7 - Customize command dials - Aperture setting - Aperture ring.

No such equivalent on the Z

No big deal, just a muscle memory and old dog/new tricks thing

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George,
You can set aperture "ring" or "command dial" priority in Nikon's camera menu. Seems every model I have owned had this option. I always add it to my custom menu to make switching back and forth quick, because it feels like Nikon is always moving where that setting is located. So, for MF, I always set to ring.
Jim






Feb 02, 2023 at 10:24 AM
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George,
I don't own a Z body, but it looks like Nikon has set aperture to "ring" control by default whenever a "non-cpu" lens is used with the FTZ adapter. Not sure how you can get an FEE error, because according to this video the camera doesn't know what aperture the lens has set. Perhaps it is a shooting mode setting M, A, P - etc conflict?
Jim

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GeorgeBo wrote:
Not finding that option anywhere in the Z bodies. All my DSLRs had the option but not seeing it on the Z.

On my Df it is under f7 - Customize command dials - Aperture setting - Aperture ring.

No such equivalent on the Z

No big deal, just a muscle memory and old dog/new tricks thing






Feb 02, 2023 at 11:04 AM
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Those are for dumb adapted lenses without chips. Samy and I are referring to chipped lenses (either native F mount Nikon or modified like Chris showed above) and adapting to the Z camera with the FTZ adapter.

In that case the body does see the CPU on the lens.



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George,
I don't own a Z body, but it looks like Nikon has set aperture to "ring" control by default whenever a "non-cpu" lens is used with the FTZ adapter. Not sure how you can get an FEE error, because according to this video the camera doesn't know what aperture the lens has set. Perhaps it is a shooting mode setting M, A, P - etc conflict?
Jim

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Feb 02, 2023 at 11:17 AM
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p.1817 #7 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I see - Sorry about that


GeorgeBo wrote:
Those are for dumb adapted lenses without chips. Samy and I are referring to chipped lenses (either native F mount Nikon or modified like Chris showed above) and adapting to the Z camera with the FTZ adapter.

In that case the body does see the CPU on the lens.






Feb 02, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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p.1817 #8 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


No worries

Like I said, it is a minor thing for me, the big plus is focus confirmation with the focus point in the viewfinder and ability to shoot in program modes.



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I see - Sorry about that







Feb 02, 2023 at 11:44 AM
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p.1817 #9 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


I set the aperture ring on the highest F-number and get focus confirmation with the regular chips but NOT with the dandelion chip. I do get focus peaking when the camera is on manual focusing.


Feb 02, 2023 at 12:04 PM
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Interesting. I get focus confirmation (focus point in the viewfinder going green) when using all the dandelions I have. Maybe a different version? There never was a lot of information with them. But I remember programming them when I installed them.

I need to dig out my instructions for programming them. I know it is around here somewhere


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I set the aperture ring on the highest F-number and get focus confirmation with the regular chips but NOT with the dandelion chip. I do get focus peaking when the camera is on manual focusing.





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Feb 02, 2023 at 12:22 PM
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p.1817 #12 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


A shot from a couple days ago. 85mm f1.4 ais + modified tc-16a + 20mm extension tube.








Feb 02, 2023 at 12:26 PM
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James Markus wrote:
George,
I don't own a Z body, but it looks like Nikon has set aperture to "ring" control by default whenever a "non-cpu" lens is used with the FTZ adapter. Not sure how you can get an FEE error, because according to this video the camera doesn't know what aperture the lens has set. Perhaps it is a shooting mode setting M, A, P - etc conflict?
Jim

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Aah - Gray's of Westminster.
When you go to their shop they sit you down at one of those mahogany desks to serve you.
All part of the experience and customer service. The guy (Kon) in the video sold me my Z6ii kit.

Colin





Feb 02, 2023 at 01:00 PM
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p.1817 #14 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Samy,

Here is a quick shot showing the dandelion chips (3 chips, 3 mounting adapters if needed and the white alignment jig). Left is the 50/1.8, middle 28/2 and the right is the 105/2.5 that I am considering adding a chip to. If you compare the location of the chips on the other two, you see that the 105 would require removal of part of the rear baffle area. Fortunately no lens element grinding like had to be done to Chris's 55/1.2

That is why I was interested in how the chip was installed in your 105/2.5

Below shot with the Micro-Nikkor 55/3.5

George



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George, will take a picture to post, I have never had a chipped lens before so am not sure what a dandelion chip looks like. The FEE error got me for a few seconds until I turned the aperture ring to minimum. The Z7II viewfinder actually reminds me to set the aperture if I don't. I don't mind it too much, have to do that with modern lenses anyway.











Feb 02, 2023 at 04:56 PM
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p.1817 #15 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Chris and George, thanks for posting the examples you folks have worked with. I will plan to have the picture of the 105 (duly taken with a manual Nikkor), on by tomorrow morning.


Feb 03, 2023 at 05:34 AM
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So, I wanted to see if the 5cm 1:1.4 S.C RF chrome and the black one were keepers.

So I ran some test shots (I don't test lenses, just wanted to know if I have a good copy).

I took photos of a wardrobe, with a photo print in the center, at 1.4, 2.0, 2.8, and 4.0 with the 5cm S,C S mount chrome, another one in black, the millennium and a 50mm 1.2.

Lighting was window, soft light, hard light might show more differences among the lenses. Other distances and subjects would give different results, not a test, but a check on a tripod..

I will not make this a long post, if you are curious, it is all at Flickr, well labeled.

My evaluation is that the 5cm Chrome is a good copy, the 5cm black is a little better, the 50mm 1.2 is much better, and the 50mm Millennium is better than the 1.2 at 1.4 (both). from 2.0 up the 1.2 and the Millennium are pretty close.

Statement of fact, the Millennium is as good at 2.0 as the old lenses are at 4.0. Worst distortion may be the 50mm 1.2.

Here is a photo from each, labeled and at 2.0. small size- if you are interested go see the whole series in Flickr. All processing copy paste.

5cm chrome at 2.0

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 S.C Chrome Z6 at 2.0 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr


5cm black at 2.0

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 S.C black Z6 at 2.0 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

50mm 1.2 at 2.0

Nikon Nikkor 50mm 1.2 Z6 at 2.0 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

The best one, Millennium at 2.0.

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 millennium Z6 at 2.0 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

The 5cm lenses

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 RF Z6 portrait lens 01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 RF Z6 portrait lens 01_01 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

The coatings and internal reflections, the 5cm black has better coatings that the chrome, the Millennium much better.
I guess I will keep them all.
The Fotofox S to L39 adapter is not as good as the incredible Amedeo S to LM, but it works well and it was only $70, not $300,

Nikon Nikkor 5cm 1.4 RF Z6 portrait lens 01_02 by Rafael Batlle, on Flickr

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Feb 03, 2023 at 09:02 PM
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p.1817 #17 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Here are some 2018 shots with the 300mm f2.8 ais. I miss having feral cats in the back yard. Drinking coffee in the morning with kittens playing around me, and random zoomies over and below the patio furniture. These I did handheld, through a double slider in flat light. Not the best image quality, but I re-imaged them to make them a little better.

Momma Cat






Momma Cat and Fiona






L>R Marnie, Fiona, and Oscar






L>R Simon, Fiona, and Marnie






Marnie and Fiona






Oscar, Simon, and Fiona







Feb 03, 2023 at 10:08 PM
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p.1817 #18 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


What happened that you no longer have the ferals? Momma Cat fixed, or deceased ?

James Markus wrote:
Here are some 2018 shots with the 300mm f2.8 ais. I miss having feral cats in the back yard. Drinking coffee in the morning with kittens playing around me, and random zoomies over and below the patio furniture. These I did handheld, through a double slider in flat light. Not the best image quality, but I re-imaged them to make them a little better.

Momma Cat
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4088-S-dN.jpg

Momma Cat and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4126-S-dN.jpg

L>R Marnie, Fiona, and Oscar
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4202-S-dN.jpg

L>R Simon, Fiona, and Marnie
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4121-S-dN.jpg

Marnie and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4156-S-dN.jpg

Oscar, Simon, and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4222-S-dN.jpg





Feb 04, 2023 at 04:30 AM
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p.1817 #19 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


George, here's the 105 2.5 AIS with the chip and the butchered baffle. But it gives me the green rectangle!!

DSC_0719 by Maryland Photos, on Flickr

Z7ii, 50mm f2 HC, +Nikon Close-up #2 for a close up of the baffle-mauling. George, this was really quick and dirty, if you want another angle or better focus to get an idea, let me know.



Feb 04, 2023 at 09:00 AM
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Jim, I love the action going on in the second to last frame!!
James Markus wrote:
Here are some 2018 shots with the 300mm f2.8 ais. I miss having feral cats in the back yard. Drinking coffee in the morning with kittens playing around me, and random zoomies over and below the patio furniture. These I did handheld, through a double slider in flat light. Not the best image quality, but I re-imaged them to make them a little better.

Momma Cat
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4088-S-dN.jpg

Momma Cat and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4126-S-dN.jpg

L>R Marnie, Fiona, and Oscar
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4202-S-dN.jpg

L>R Simon, Fiona, and Marnie
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4121-S-dN.jpg

Marnie and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4156-S-dN.jpg

Oscar, Simon, and Fiona
http://www.photomatter.com/2023/Edit_D800_300mm-f2.8-ais_MommaCat-4222-S-dN.jpg





Feb 04, 2023 at 09:02 AM
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