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You’ll like the nonIF ED, Rafael. I have…a few.
They won’t meet your condition so I am keeping them for myself. hahah

rafaelcasd wrote:
It is always breeding time over here Jose!

The color and sharpness of the lapwing is very pleasing, natural.

There is one of these 300mm 4.5 ED K lenses for sale on ebay, seller wants too much so I am bidding my time.




Oct 14, 2021 at 03:14 AM
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HCE HCE wrote:
D800 24mm PC-E


Ha ha, I just caught the irony of the title. Nice.



Oct 14, 2021 at 05:25 AM
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asiostygius wrote:
Breeding time over here:

Southern Lapwing just before covering its nest with 3 eggs.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51585775603_5b1663f2d6_b.jpgSouthern Lapwing just before covering its nest with 3 eggs by Jose, on Flickr

Fujifilm X-S10 + adapter + Nikkor 300mm f/4.5K ED non-IF, hand held, ISO 500, f/5.6 at 1/800s. 92% cropped (24/26MP). Unusually the nest is located over an old paving stone!

Trying to deceive the "nest predator" (photographer)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51585551021_85a4ddbf42_b.jpgSouthern Lapwing trying to deceive the "nest predator" (photographer) by Jose, on Flickr

Fujifilm X-S10 + adapter + Nikkor 300mm f/4.5K ED non-IF, hand held, ISO 400, f/5.6 at 1/800s. 2 shots pano.



We have a bird in our part of the world that likes to build its nest like this one, in gravel mostly. The bird is called a Killdeer and the eggs are very similar to the Southern Lapwing.

When I worked for the power company many years ago in the substation dept, we were constantly driving our big trucks through the gravel of the substation yard. Whenever we noticed a Killdeer nesting, we would stop and put up orange traffic cones around the nest to protect it.



Oct 14, 2021 at 05:32 AM
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p.1455 #4 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Now a question. I need to be educated about the 300mm lenses you all have been talking about.

You have peaked my interest and I feel a bit of GAS coming on.

Which version would you all consider the best out there including serial number range? Thanks!



Oct 14, 2021 at 05:35 AM
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p.1455 #5 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Is this the one? https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_490859.html


Oct 14, 2021 at 05:49 AM
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While I'm waiting for the 300mm discussion, I'll drop a pic from a little while ago taken with the 55mm f2.8 ais.

Foggy Sunrise by T. Leighton Womack, on Flickr



Oct 14, 2021 at 07:02 AM
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p.1455 #7 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


These

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_173317.html

There are K and AI versions of it. There is an gold ring to indicate it’s ED. About 1800 made total. I recall Jose has one, John has one. Good luck finding one.

leighton w wrote:
Is this the one? https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_490859.html




Oct 14, 2021 at 07:15 AM
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bruni wrote:
Mark - speaking of colour, that intense red in a sea of (intense) green is very eye catching. How are you finding Luminar?

Ben


Ben, I haven't used it much yet, I have quite a few add on packages and hope to get more use as i get back into the swing, so far I like it!



Oct 14, 2021 at 07:18 AM
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leighton w wrote:
Is this the one? https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_490859.html


Hi, Leighton.
No, this is the regular non ED version, as Chuong has already told us.

For me the sharper version of the 300/4.5 design is without any doubt this one:

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_173317.html

Note the golden ring absent from the normal version.

Unfortunatelly few copies were maden of bot K and ai versions, less than 1000 each:
http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/serialno.html#300

A long time ago I made a test and the images speak by themselves:

General scenario test:
Test Scenario at infinity for the 300mm battle by Jose, on Flickr


Nikkors 300mm f/4.5K ED(non-IF) vs. f/4.5 ais EDIF - @ f/8 by Jose, on Flickr

Scenario at 800m of distance, atmosphere relatively clean.
Left: Nikkor 300mm f/4.5K ai'd ED non-IF; right: Nikkor 300mm f/4.5 ais EDIF.
Top to bottom: centre, left border and righ border crops.
All shots with a D610 + tripod, Live view focusing, mirror lockup and remote shutter. ISO 200.
Images straight out of the camera - printscreen images!


And about CA, at least on the D610 sensor:
CA in Nikkors 300mm f/4.5K ED(non-IF) vs. f/4.5 ais EDIF by Jose, on Flickr
Just to show CA in Nikkors 300mm f/4.5K ED(non-IF) vs. f/4.5 ais EDIF - wide open at right border a 0.2/24.2Mp (0.8% crop). The older design controls CA much better and is sharper border to border.

And a little Nikkor porn, of course

Comparison of Nikkors 300mm f4.5s: ED (non-IF) vs. EDIF by Jose, on Flickr

1st: Nikkor 300mm f/4.5K (factory ai'd) ED (non-IF);
2nd: Nikkor 300mm f/4.5 ais EDIF
Each comparative shot was:
Left: set at infinity focus
Middle: set at MFD (4m & 2.5m)
Bottom: set at MFD and with hood extended.

All shots with D610 + Nikkor 85mm f/1.8K factory ai'd + tripod + built in flash + diffuser; ISO 200, wide open (f/1.8) at 1/60s.

I do not have the 300/4.5 non IF K, ai or ais, but suppose it is less sharp than the ED(non-IF) version.




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Oct 14, 2021 at 07:18 AM
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raboof wrote:
These

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_173317.html

There are K and AI versions of it. There is an gold ring to indicate it’s ED. About 1800 made total. I recall Jose has one, John has one. Good luck finding one.



Thanks Chuong, I'll be keeping an eye out for one.



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raboof wrote:
These

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_173317.html

There are K and AI versions of it. There is an gold ring to indicate it’s ED. About 1800 made total. I recall Jose has one, John has one. Good luck finding one.



I believe I have one, I will drag it out later and see what the serial number is. I think this is one I grabbed from a seller in Japan. Looking up at Jose's test, I believe he was the Devil this time that made me do it, I recall seeing these comparisons he did some years back.



Oct 14, 2021 at 07:20 AM
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asiostygius wrote:
Hi, Leighton.
No, this is the regular non ED version, as Chuong has already told us.

For me the sharper version of the 300/4.5 design is without any doubt this one:

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_300mm_f4.5_173317.html

Note the golden ring absent from the normal version.

Unfortunatelly few copies were maden of bot K and ai versions, less than 1000 each:
http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/serialno.html#300

A long time ago I made a test and the images speak by themselves:

General scenario test:
https://live.staticflickr.com/651/21398168149_459509e7ce_b.jpgTest Scenario at infinity for the 300mm battle by Jose, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/5794/21558893086_e2459f6090_h.jpgNikkors 300mm f/4.5K ED(non-IF) vs. f/4.5 ais EDIF - @ f/8 by Jose, on Flickr

Scenario at 800m of distance, atmosphere relatively clean.
Left: Nikkor 300mm
...Show more
Thank you Jose. It's obviously sharper judging by your examples. I think I'm going to have a hard time finding one.



Oct 14, 2021 at 07:30 AM
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p.1455 #13 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Yeah, I like CA control and sharpness on this lens.

Another one you might like which has similar characters is the 400mm f5.6 nonIF. Supposedly rarer but I see it pops up on eBay more than the 300mm lately.

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_400mm_f5.6_270070.html


leighton w wrote:
Thank you Jose. It's obviously sharper judging by your examples. I think I'm going to have a hard time finding one.




Oct 14, 2021 at 08:28 AM
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p.1455 #14 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


OH MY GOD !!!

rafaelcasd wrote:
This is a dangerous road, philosophy may be hoarding - low prices on excellent condition lenses.

I love taking one lens at the time and working with it to make images I like. I will be posting more pictures of lenses.

Decided to make and post a list of my lenses, this was off memory, will keep adding detail and serial numbers.

type mm cm f/ subtype
mirror up 7.5 5.6
ais 8 2.8
ai 15 5.6
ais 15 3.5
k ai'd 16 3.5
ai 16 3.5
afd 16 2.8
ai 18 4
ais 18 3.5
nai 20 3.5 UD
ai'd 20 3.5 UD
ais 20 2.8
afd 20 2.8
ai'd 24 2.8
ai'd 28 3.5
k 28 3.5
pc 28 3.5
ais 28 2.8
nai 28 2 N
ai'd 28 2 N
ais 28 2
S RF 3.5 3.5
ai'd 35 2.8
ai'd 35 2
ais 35 2
ai'd 35 1.4 N
ai'd 35 1.4 N
ais 35 1.4 4xxxxxx
ais 35 1.4 6xxxxxx
ai'd 45 2.8 GN
ais 50 1.2 USMC
ai'd 50 1.4 silver
ai'd 50 1.4 S.C
nai 50 2 S
nai 50 2 S
k 50 2
ai'd k 50 2
ais 50 1.8
ltm rf 5 2 H
ltm rf 5 2 H.C
nai 55 1.2 970xxx
nai 55 1.2 972xxx
ai'd 55 1.2 195xxx
ai'd 55 1.2 223xxxx
ai'd 55 1.2 S.C
ai'd 55 1.2 S.C
ai 55 1.2
nai 55 3.5 micro compensating
ai'd 55 3.5 micro
ai'd 55 3.5 micro
afd 60 2.8
ai'd 85 1.8 H
k ai'd 85 1.8
k ai'd 85 1.8
S rf 8.5 2
ltm rf 8.5 2
ais 85 2
ais 85 1.4
ais 85 1.4
nai 105 2.5
ai'd 105 2.5
ais 105 2.5
nai 105 4 bellows
ai 105 4 micro
ltm rf 10.5 2.5
ltm rf 10.5 2.5
ai'd 135 2.8
ais 135 2
nai 13.5 3.5
nai 135 3.5
s rf 13.5 3.5 mioj
s rf 13.5 4 bellows
ai'd k 180 2.8
ai 180 2.8
ais 180 2.8 ED
ais 200 4
ai'd 200 4
ai'd 200 4
ais 200 2
ai'd 300 4.5 H
ais 300 4.5 EDIF
ais 400 3.5
nai 400 4.5
ais 500 8 New
nai 600 5.6
ais 800 5.6
ais 25-50 4
ai 28-45 4.5
ais 50-300 4.5 ed
ais 50-300 4.5 ed
ais 80-200 2.8 ed




Oct 14, 2021 at 08:32 AM
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I see that you got your 200mm F2 AIS.
20mm f4 and 85mm f1.8 HC should be on that list

rafaelcasd wrote:
This is a dangerous road, philosophy may be hoarding - low prices on excellent condition lenses.

I love taking one lens at the time and working with it to make images I like. I will be posting more pictures of lenses.

Decided to make and post a list of my lenses, this was off memory, will keep adding detail and serial numbers.

type mm cm f/ subtype
mirror up 7.5 5.6
ais 8 2.8
ai 15 5.6
ais 15 3.5
k ai'd 16 3.5
ai 16 3.5
afd 16 2.8
ai 18 4
ais 18 3.5
nai 20 3.5 UD
ai'd 20 3.5 UD
ais 20 2.8
afd 20 2.8
ai'd 24 2.8
ai'd 28 3.5
k 28 3.5
pc 28 3.5
ais 28 2.8
nai 28 2 N
ai'd 28 2 N
ais 28 2
S RF 3.5 3.5
ai'd 35 2.8
ai'd 35 2
ais 35 2
ai'd 35 1.4 N
ai'd 35 1.4 N
ais 35 1.4 4xxxxxx
ais 35 1.4 6xxxxxx
ai'd 45 2.8 GN
ais 50 1.2 USMC
ai'd 50 1.4 silver
ai'd 50 1.4 S.C
nai 50 2 S
nai 50 2 S
k 50 2
ai'd k 50 2
ais 50 1.8
ltm rf 5 2 H
ltm rf 5 2 H.C
nai 55 1.2 970xxx
nai 55 1.2 972xxx
ai'd 55 1.2 195xxx
ai'd 55 1.2 223xxxx
ai'd 55 1.2 S.C
ai'd 55 1.2 S.C
ai 55 1.2
nai 55 3.5 micro compensating
ai'd 55 3.5 micro
ai'd 55 3.5 micro
afd 60 2.8
ai'd 85 1.8 H
k ai'd 85 1.8
k ai'd 85 1.8
S rf 8.5 2
ltm rf 8.5 2
ais 85 2
ais 85 1.4
ais 85 1.4
nai 105 2.5
ai'd 105 2.5
ais 105 2.5
nai 105 4 bellows
ai 105 4 micro
ltm rf 10.5 2.5
ltm rf 10.5 2.5
ai'd 135 2.8
ais 135 2
nai 13.5 3.5
nai 135 3.5
s rf 13.5 3.5 mioj
s rf 13.5 4 bellows
ai'd k 180 2.8
ai 180 2.8
ais 180 2.8 ED
ais 200 4
ai'd 200 4
ai'd 200 4
ais 200 2
ai'd 300 4.5 H
ais 300 4.5 EDIF
ais 400 3.5
nai 400 4.5
ais 500 8 New
nai 600 5.6
ais 800 5.6
ais 25-50 4
ai 28-45 4.5
ais 50-300 4.5 ed
ais 50-300 4.5 ed
ais 80-200 2.8 ed




Oct 14, 2021 at 08:39 AM
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leighton w wrote:
While I'm waiting for the 300mm discussion, I'll drop a pic from a little while ago taken with the 55mm f2.8 ais.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51587778686_dcaf25cc90_b.jpgFoggy Sunrise by T. Leighton Womack, on Flickr


Simply beautiful.



Oct 14, 2021 at 08:49 AM
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leighton w wrote:
Now a question. I need to be educated about the 300mm lenses you all have been talking about.

You have peaked my interest and I feel a bit of GAS coming on.

Which version would you all consider the best out there including serial number range? Thanks!


Oh no Leighton - you're getting sucked in. Do you need an intervention? I'm pretty hopeless myself but I'll try. I'm getting better. I almost bought a 24mm f2 today, but I stopped myself. Nice misty dawn pic.

In honour of those who can focus at f1.2, here's my effort at f5.6 on the 18mm. In my defence, I was walking toward her and took the pic without stopping, I just pressed the shutter at hip height without looking. Still, I know, I know, it's way out.

Ben








Oct 14, 2021 at 09:01 AM
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bruni wrote:
Oh no Leighton - you're getting sucked in. Do you need an intervention? I'm pretty hopeless myself but I'll try. I'm getting better. I almost bought a 24mm f2 today, but I stopped myself. Nice misty dawn pic.

In honour of those who can focus at f1.2, here's my effort at f5.6 on the 18mm. In my defence, I was walking toward her and took the pic without stopping, I just pressed the shutter at hip height without looking. Still, I know, I know, it's way out.

Ben


Nah, just been thinking about something longer. My longest at the moment is135mm full frame equivalent.

You should have bought that 24/2! You could compete with Rafael.



Oct 14, 2021 at 09:06 AM
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DeltaSigma wrote:
Doug,

It is a great image and well worthy of a large print.
Have you considered Whitewall? They are a German company. They have a 7x5 option (as well as custom sizes)
Example sizes here. https://www.whitewall.com/uk/photo-prints/fuji-crystal-archive-dp-ii
I use them regularly for prints as well as fully framed options. The quality is excellent, packaging superb, and customer service is top notch.

It is fun to upload a picture and try their configurator for framing options etc.

Colin


i'll check them out - thx Colin!




Oct 14, 2021 at 09:07 AM
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raboof wrote:
Yeah, I like CA control and sharpness on this lens.

Another one you might like which has similar characters is the 400mm f5.6 nonIF. Supposedly rarer but I see it pops up on eBay more than the 300mm lately.

https://www.destoutz.ch/lens_400mm_f5.6_270070.html



This one is rare? Had no idea. Has been in a cabinet for several years. I got it out to do some testing for use as a 600mm equivalent on the Z fc this past week.

Is this the same one?

George

ps. The 85mm/1.4 AiS covers the GFX sensor very well. No crop or vignette correction applied.









Oct 14, 2021 at 09:24 AM
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