Just to reiterate what everyone else is saying, I find this to be one of the best image threads to participate on here on FM. I haven't been as active of a forum participant in recent years, but I keep tabs on certain threads here and there and this is easily one of my favorites.
From the amount of work, to the quality of work, and the quality of feedback, I will continue to keep coming back, and keep sharing!
Interesting to see how fast this thread is moving now, with so many wonderful images. Very inspirational. This one from Lake Campbell, one of our rare coastal dune lakes here in Walton County, Florida. (S2-P and Summarit 70)
Auto Iso is not working with the T (Shutter priority) setting. It shows correct as Auto Iso in the viewfinder but defaults to 100 ISO without any change.
All other modes A and P are perfect with auto iso.
Not a big thing because i never use T (S) mode, but according to the manual it should work in this mode.
Ok... I'm really very close to pulling the trigger on a M246 Monochrom. I have a feeling it's going to be a waste of money. And I'm going to regret it. Since I actually hate my own black and white images. And I always feel I'm missing out when I set my color cameras to BW mode. BUT my wife thinks I should buy one to get it out of my system... And I think she secretly hopes I'll like black and white photography. I think she's thinking back to the days when we use to shoot black and white film in school. Or maybe she's just sick of listing to me drone on about buying one (maybe you guys are too).
If I bought one, I'd bring it with me on vacation and all my photos would be in black and white, and I wouldn't have a color camera with me. So I would definitely be missing out... Or would I? Aside from that, I wouldn't use it for work or whatnot. I might just bring it out with me on a daily basis because I rarely if ever take images anyway when I'm out to lunch etc.
I've played with a M246 already for an extended period of time (a friends). But that really isn't the same thing now is it?
So renting it won't do me any good.
So good idea, bad idea
At least I won't bitch about not liking the color profile right?
How does one get over the loss of color?
And yes, this is the opposite of thinning out my camera gear, I already know that!!
Werner_Utsch wrote:
A question to the S (006 FW 2.4.1.0) users here:
Auto Iso is not working with the T (Shutter priority) setting. It shows correct as Auto Iso in the viewfinder but defaults to 100 ISO without any change.
All other modes A and P are perfect with auto iso.
Not a big thing because i never use T (S) mode, but according to the manual it should work in this mode.
Thanks for any help!
Cheers
Werner
A mode is the only mode it works on. But then it doesn't listen to your minimum shutter speed. Leica never got around to fixing this.. And probably won't now that the S-007 is here.
P mode doesn't even work on my unit
Though my first S-006 it worked fine on all but M setting, though still didn't listen to my minimum shutter suggestion.
Well, in P and A modes everything works as it should : Max ISO and min shutter.
P and S modes are more or less never used by me, only A and M. So i better forget about it and take pic's
I love my MM as you can see from my posts, if it's for you( the 246), i think you should try....for a while... and: Expression does not ned color...
adamdewilde wrote:
Ok... I'm really very close to pulling the trigger on a M246 Monochrom. I have a feeling it's going to be a waste of money. And I'm going to regret it. Since I actually hate my own black and white images. And I always feel I'm missing out when I set my color cameras to BW mode. BUT my wife thinks I should buy one to get it out of my system... And I think she secretly hopes I'll like black and white photography. I think she's thinking back to the days when we use to shoot black and white film in school. Or maybe she's just sick of listing to me drone on about buying one (maybe you guys are too).
If I bought one, I'd bring it with me on vacation and all my photos would be in black and white, and I wouldn't have a color camera with me. So I would definitely be missing out... Or would I? Aside from that, I wouldn't use it for work or whatnot. I might just bring it out with me on a daily basis because I rarely if ever take images anyway when I'm out to lunch etc.
I've played with a M246 already for an extended period of time (a friends). But that really isn't the same thing now is it?
So renting it won't do me any good.
So good idea, bad idea
At least I won't bitch about not liking the color profile right?
How does one get over the loss of color?
And yes, this is the opposite of thinning out my camera gear, I already know that!!...Show more →
It's not a loss. It's just seeing differently. It becomes about shape, tone, texture and other visual elements that are not color related. B&W should not be about trying to save images that are not working in color or an after thought because a weak image is still going to be a weak image whether it is in color or in B&W. B&W should be about seeing and capturing images that are about those elements I mentioned (and of course others appropriate for B&W) instead of the elements that make an interesting color image. For it to be successful it truly is a different approach entirely. It's about seeing in B&W. It can take some time to master. I've been shooting B&W for 4 decades and it's still a work in progress.
You could also pick up a really clean original MM for a good price now.
airfrogusmc wrote:
It's not a loss. It's just seeing differently. It becomes about shape, tone, texture and other visual elements that are not color related.
I agree with this since it is for me something completely different to work in b&w all the way rather than doing it in post.
Maybe not the best way to sell the MM-246 but inspiration is running low at the moment, taken with the 35 Lux.
Adam, I second Allen's recommendation to buy the original MM. You can pick one up for half the price, and if it's not for you, selling may well break even.
Adam, I will post a more detailed response to your question when I have access to a keyboard, but based on my experience you will not regret purchasing the Monochrom or M246. I've had both, and feel that the M246 is well worth the extra cost. The quality of the files is astonishing.
airfrogusmc wrote:
It's not a loss. It's just seeing differently. It becomes about shape, tone, texture and other visual elements that are not color related. B&W should not be about trying to save images that are not working in color or an after thought because a weak image is still going to be a weak image whether it is in color or in B&W. B&W should be about seeing and capturing images that are about those elements I mentioned (and of course others appropriate for B&W) instead of the elements that make an interesting color image. For it to be successful it truly is a different approach entirely. It's about seeing in B&W. It can take some time to master. I've been shooting B&W for 4 decades and it's still a work in progress.
You could also pick up a really clean original MM for a good price now. ...Show more →
I love everyone else's black and white images.. I scour the net and see a lot of great stuff. But then when I try and do black and white, I just can't bring myself to "loose" the color. Weird mental block
I'd probably just grab the M246 due to me being use to the body quirks of the M240. That and sharing batteries. Since I have a BUNCH.
So between the MM9 and M246.. Are there debates, like M9 vs M240 style?
Ideally speaking I'd want the M246 due to higher ISO and familiar quirks/menus, batteries etc. Since it's been a while since I've played with a M9.
(But honestly, if it were an option, I'd really rather a M262 Monochrom. Since I wouldn't mind a more silent shutter and don't care for the movie mode and associated LV menu items.)
joakim - Nice shot BTW... See I love black and white images.. As long as I'm not the one taking them :P
I have nothing but good things to say about the 246. When I bought it I fully intended to also keep my 240. But after just a few days with the 246, the 240 was sold. I'll shoot color on film until the next generation M arrives.
The original MM can't use the M Macro adapter, live view/EVF, the R to M adapter, it has shorter battery life, and its high ISO performance isn't as good. If you don't need any of this stuff then I would suggest getting the original MM. I've seen some low ISO shots from the original MM that I'm not sure the 246 is capable of without a lot of PP.
