Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.1213 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Wow - great work on this page! Wonderful set Allen.
Sep 22, 2015 at 08:51 PM
p.1213 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
A quick snap out of my hotel window here in San Jose. On the road this week with work. Still trying to decide if I want to take the upgrade option as my M-E is in the shop for a new sensor. I'm using a loaner M240.
M240, 35 Lux ASPH. (pre-FLE) (f1.4, 1/125, ISO 800)
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M240, 35 Lux ASPH. (pre-FLE) (f1.4, 1/125, ISO 800)
Sep 22, 2015 at 09:00 PM
p.1213 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Chas, thank you for the feedback.
Allen, excellent set! Really like the first two.
Gary, the first shot reminds me of an iconic photo by Eugene Smith
Love both shots!
Duane, beautiful colors, and lens looks very sharp at f/1.4.
Allen, excellent set! Really like the first two.
Gary, the first shot reminds me of an iconic photo by Eugene Smith
Love both shots!Duane, beautiful colors, and lens looks very sharp at f/1.4.
Sep 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM
p.1213 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thank you Edward. I've been shooting with the 35 Lux ASPH. pre-FLE for over a year now. I also have the pre-ASPH. I may have to dig it out and see how it does with the M240 loaner I have to help me make my decision to upgrade or not.
The Blacksmith - M240, APO 75 Cron (f2.0, 1/500, ISO 1600)
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The Blacksmith - M240, APO 75 Cron (f2.0, 1/500, ISO 1600)
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Sep 22, 2015 at 11:49 PM
p.1213 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Just noticed the kilts! Very cool!
Sep 23, 2015 at 12:17 AM
p.1213 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks guys, I didn't even think about that with the band. I think René did the better job with his band.
Allen - awesome set!
Gary - great moments! The Lux ASPH rendering also looks great.
Katie - also a wonderful moment!
Duane - good stuff - is the loaner from Leica or your dealer? My M9 has the sensor spots, but haven't yet bothered to send it to Leica. Will maybe wait a bit longer until the 'new' sensor is readily available, though I'd probably prefer to trade it against an M-P 240.
aFrIcanSH wrote:
Ron and Rene, I agree with Edward that is it is indeed interesting to see both Scottish bands in two different styles!
Edward, I prefer your colour photo better. I feel it has more "pop" to my eyes.
The F1 lights do give a different feel to the streets here. Sometimes walking on the "circuit" itself when it's barricaded and lit up under those lights (but pre-race when it's used as a regular road) is exciting too...knowing those F1 drivers will be zipping around at 300kmph on roads with speed limits of 60kmph
Alpha/Adam - I haven't got a 50 f1....Show more →
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aFrIcanSH wrote:
I've come to believe no leica purchase is rational. It's just you feeding what your heart wants. It's very emotive, far more than any other sort of purchases I've done before (camera related, since i'm sure cars and probably watches provide some level of comparison). Maybe this is just another silly way of justifying a leica related purchase. Ask me 3 years ago if I ever imagined buying a lens for more than $4000USD..or a body for more than $4000USD. Edward said in another thread that leica is about less not more. I think you get less for more too...Show more →
Back 5 years ago when I picked up a used M9 when they were nearly impossible to find, I started with a few ZM lenses in order to quickly build a kit. I told myself I'd give it a shot and maybe consider getting some Leica glass later, but the prices seemed so crazy. A few grand just for a 50mm... Consider that every 18-24 months I was buying two Canon 1D series cameras and because I shoot sports, had at that time a 400/2.8 and 600/4... among other costly Canon lenses (replaced those with the 200-400 a couple years ago - also a pricy lens). So it's not like I wasn't used to dropping some coin on gear. But for some reason the M9 made me the most nervous and uncertain I'd ever been about a purchase. The first Leica lens I bought new was the 21/1.4, which wasn't cheap, either. I had the same feelings of uncertainty with its purchase. I suppose with a Canon super-tele you physically get a lot more glass for the amount of money spent!
I think the uncertainty was very much because buying Leica was so much more an emotional decision. It's somewhat logic defying, especially for someone like me who used to always be about spec-sheet features. It was tough getting my head around the notion of spending more for less. And I see from the many comments in Leica threads that others have the same hang-up.
I wouldn't worry about selling the 28 Cron or 90AA. Both of those are relatively easy to find second hand and at good prices, which probably won't help you much when selling them... Churning through lenses seems to be part of the normal process many go through to find the combination that works best for them, which may also involve re-buying previously owned lenses.
Something to keep in mind if you're an infrequent telephoto shooter, that the Summarits are decent choices. I owned the 90 for a few years and it was a good lens. The 90AA is slightly better, slightly more transparent, but I was happy with the Summarit and only got the AA to see what the fuss was about. The ideal 90 for me is probably the f/4 macro, but I'm still having a very difficult time justifying its price for how much I'd probably use it. Ironically the 90AA can be had used for less and offers a wider application range for my shooting needs, though I'd really love the macro simply for its size...
Given the choice of 21 SEM or 90AA to get first, I got the 21. It's a brilliant lens, if you like UWAs. Another one to consider is the ZM25 if you don't need/want quite so wide. If you're ever in Japan, definitely check prices on any ZM or Voigtlander glass that might interest you. When I was there back in May it was in the ~30% less than US retail price range, pre-tax. Not sure how prices are in Singapore...
M240 & 2x 28 Cron, 2x 50 Lux ASPH
Allen - awesome set!
Gary - great moments! The Lux ASPH rendering also looks great.
Katie - also a wonderful moment!
Duane - good stuff - is the loaner from Leica or your dealer? My M9 has the sensor spots, but haven't yet bothered to send it to Leica. Will maybe wait a bit longer until the 'new' sensor is readily available, though I'd probably prefer to trade it against an M-P 240.
aFrIcanSH wrote:
Ron and Rene, I agree with Edward that is it is indeed interesting to see both Scottish bands in two different styles!
Edward, I prefer your colour photo better. I feel it has more "pop" to my eyes.
The F1 lights do give a different feel to the streets here. Sometimes walking on the "circuit" itself when it's barricaded and lit up under those lights (but pre-race when it's used as a regular road) is exciting too...knowing those F1 drivers will be zipping around at 300kmph on roads with speed limits of 60kmph
Alpha/Adam - I haven't got a 50 f1....Show more →
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aFrIcanSH wrote:
aly324 wrote
aFrIcanSH wrote
my heart made up it's mind.Back 5 years ago when I picked up a used M9 when they were nearly impossible to find, I started with a few ZM lenses in order to quickly build a kit. I told myself I'd give it a shot and maybe consider getting some Leica glass later, but the prices seemed so crazy. A few grand just for a 50mm... Consider that every 18-24 months I was buying two Canon 1D series cameras and because I shoot sports, had at that time a 400/2.8 and 600/4... among other costly Canon lenses (replaced those with the 200-400 a couple years ago - also a pricy lens). So it's not like I wasn't used to dropping some coin on gear. But for some reason the M9 made me the most nervous and uncertain I'd ever been about a purchase. The first Leica lens I bought new was the 21/1.4, which wasn't cheap, either. I had the same feelings of uncertainty with its purchase.
I suppose with a Canon super-tele you physically get a lot more glass for the amount of money spent!I think the uncertainty was very much because buying Leica was so much more an emotional decision. It's somewhat logic defying, especially for someone like me who used to always be about spec-sheet features. It was tough getting my head around the notion of spending more for less. And I see from the many comments in Leica threads that others have the same hang-up.
I wouldn't worry about selling the 28 Cron or 90AA. Both of those are relatively easy to find second hand and at good prices, which probably won't help you much when selling them... Churning through lenses seems to be part of the normal process many go through to find the combination that works best for them, which may also involve re-buying previously owned lenses.
Something to keep in mind if you're an infrequent telephoto shooter, that the Summarits are decent choices. I owned the 90 for a few years and it was a good lens. The 90AA is slightly better, slightly more transparent, but I was happy with the Summarit and only got the AA to see what the fuss was about. The ideal 90 for me is probably the f/4 macro, but I'm still having a very difficult time justifying its price for how much I'd probably use it. Ironically the 90AA can be had used for less and offers a wider application range for my shooting needs, though I'd really love the macro simply for its size...
Given the choice of 21 SEM or 90AA to get first, I got the 21. It's a brilliant lens, if you like UWAs. Another one to consider is the ZM25 if you don't need/want quite so wide. If you're ever in Japan, definitely check prices on any ZM or Voigtlander glass that might interest you. When I was there back in May it was in the ~30% less than US retail price range, pre-tax. Not sure how prices are in Singapore...
M240 & 2x 28 Cron, 2x 50 Lux ASPH
Sep 23, 2015 at 12:37 AM
p.1213 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
rscheffler wrote:
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Duane - good stuff - is the loaner from Leica or your dealer? My M9 has the sensor spots, but haven't yet bothered to send it to Leica. Will maybe wait a bit longer until the 'new' sensor is readily available, though I'd probably prefer to trade it against an M-P 240.
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Before I sent my M-E to NJ for the service I asked for a loaner while mine was being evaluated. I've had the loaner a couple weeks and before I had it a week I received an email from the NJ office that I qualified for the upgrade offer, which includes the M246.
I'm heavily leaning towards the M-P but would love a crack at the M246 but I need color for the fall leaves. I was told today that it may take 3 months to get my M-E back if I want the new sensor and want it back.
M240, 50 Lux pre-ASPH.
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Duane - good stuff - is the loaner from Leica or your dealer? My M9 has the sensor spots, but haven't yet bothered to send it to Leica. Will maybe wait a bit longer until the 'new' sensor is readily available, though I'd probably prefer to trade it against an M-P 240.
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Before I sent my M-E to NJ for the service I asked for a loaner while mine was being evaluated. I've had the loaner a couple weeks and before I had it a week I received an email from the NJ office that I qualified for the upgrade offer, which includes the M246.
I'm heavily leaning towards the M-P but would love a crack at the M246 but I need color for the fall leaves. I was told today that it may take 3 months to get my M-E back if I want the new sensor and want it back.
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M240, 50 Lux pre-ASPH.
Sep 23, 2015 at 12:45 AM
p.1213 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks for the info Duane. Like the photo too!
Is there specific criteria one needs to meet in order to qualify for the upgrade offer?
Is there specific criteria one needs to meet in order to qualify for the upgrade offer?
Sep 23, 2015 at 01:01 AM
p.1213 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
rscheffler wrote:
Thanks for the info Duane. Like the photo too!
Is there specific criteria one needs to meet in order to qualify for the upgrade offer?
I believe its the sensor corrosion issue. I believe mine was beginning to have that issue but I was really sending it in for two bad pixel/columns that had been an issue for me for over a year. This is my only camera and already had my sensor replaced once before for the bad pixel/column problem. First time around it only took a couple weeks get mine back but then it was only a couple months old.
I'm a pilot and bring my camera with me when I travel for work. Its my opinion is that the cosmic radiation at altitude has probably been my problem with the bad column. One of the reasons I've been shooting wide open to avoid seeing it in my images, especially low light and trying to pull detail out of the shadow areas.
However, the past few months I was noticing what looked like dirt if I were to stop down a bit. I even bought a sensor cleaning system and even with that and a rocket blower it would not come free. So I believe my camera was infected with the corrosion issue too.
I think its why Leica NJ offered me the upgrade so quickly. My wife would like me to keep the M-E and has suggested buying a used M-9 to use while mine is in the shop. But I'd be paying almost what I would for the upgrade. Doesn't make much sense. Plus if I had the money I'd opt for the M246 and buy a M240 on the used market. I don't have those kind of funds right now and Leica NJ doesn't have the M246 available at the moment. They do have a few M-P in stock for upgrading.
I plan on calling back tomorrow with a decision.
M240, 35 Lux ASPH.
Thanks for the info Duane. Like the photo too!
Is there specific criteria one needs to meet in order to qualify for the upgrade offer?
I believe its the sensor corrosion issue. I believe mine was beginning to have that issue but I was really sending it in for two bad pixel/columns that had been an issue for me for over a year. This is my only camera and already had my sensor replaced once before for the bad pixel/column problem. First time around it only took a couple weeks get mine back but then it was only a couple months old.
I'm a pilot and bring my camera with me when I travel for work. Its my opinion is that the cosmic radiation at altitude has probably been my problem with the bad column. One of the reasons I've been shooting wide open to avoid seeing it in my images, especially low light and trying to pull detail out of the shadow areas.
However, the past few months I was noticing what looked like dirt if I were to stop down a bit. I even bought a sensor cleaning system and even with that and a rocket blower it would not come free. So I believe my camera was infected with the corrosion issue too.
I think its why Leica NJ offered me the upgrade so quickly. My wife would like me to keep the M-E and has suggested buying a used M-9 to use while mine is in the shop. But I'd be paying almost what I would for the upgrade. Doesn't make much sense. Plus if I had the money I'd opt for the M246 and buy a M240 on the used market. I don't have those kind of funds right now and Leica NJ doesn't have the M246 available at the moment. They do have a few M-P in stock for upgrading.
I plan on calling back tomorrow with a decision.
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Sep 23, 2015 at 01:32 AM
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p.1213 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Great pictures here !
Thanks for your comments . Find the comparison with the Scottish group by Ron very interesting.
Ron your color version I like very much . Have now also the version set in color .
only for comparison .
René
Sep 23, 2015 at 02:03 AM
p.1213 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
and something from the life in black and white .
René
René
Sep 23, 2015 at 02:06 AM
p.1213 #14Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Duane, excellent shot of the blacksmith in kilts. Sunset shot is beautiful.
Ron, great optical effects playing with geometric forms.
Rene, I think I prefer the color version with the subdued colors. The b/w shot of the bearded old man is outstanding.
Allen, love the dynamic in the shot, both in the forms and the action.
Ron, great optical effects playing with geometric forms.
Rene, I think I prefer the color version with the subdued colors. The b/w shot of the bearded old man is outstanding.
Allen, love the dynamic in the shot, both in the forms and the action.
Sep 23, 2015 at 06:32 AM
p.1213 #16Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
So...my 35FLE appears to have a little bit of out-of-place paint/something on it. It's a tiny tiny white dot on the underside of the lens. I was sitting on the bus and had a look at my camera, it was a tiny bit dusty (stuff from my shirt) so i blew it and then wiped a little, but that tiny white dot wouldn't budge! I don't remember seeing it yesterday when purchasing it, but i was more concerned about the mechanical and optical performance to check the exterior. I tried using my nail to get it off but couldn't though i got a little of it off eventually. It can't be a dink or something because i didn't hit my camera, and if it was one it'd usually be paint loss and not a little fine lump. It's also white..quite like the white paint on the lens. I tried a little bit of lens cleaning solution, and then a bit of nail polish remover (very very little) and gave it a bit of a rougher rub, but it still wouldn't budge. I didn't use anything stronger than a fingernail for fear of scratching the black paint off. I assume the black coating is strong enough to withstand some persistent rubbing.
I was told by the Leica store here to go back to the dealer, but tomorrow is a public holiday and I'm returning to London on Friday. Tough luck i suppose. I don't mind a worn lens, but not on my 2nd day. I'll pop by the Leica store in London to see if they can do anything. They're already going to look at some marks on the rear element.
I actually noted several of these tiny dots on my 90AA. But since i purchased it used I wasn't really bothered by it. They have the same feel as the one on my 35mm and I don't think it's brassing because brassing is of a different grey.
Anyway long story short, has anyone come across this before? I'm bothered by it because it's a brand new lens but i WILL get over it soon enough when it gets more use.
Ron, the prices of ZM glass here appear to be controlled by the importer. The prices are quite aligned to US prices as far as I know and definitely not at the lower end. I was checking out those japanese retailers for lens prices a few weeks back. Some are priced pretty competitively, plus you may get some tax back. As for CV glass, I'm not too sure. I know a few dealers who have them in stock, but never enquired far enough to ask for the more competitive and lowest prices.
I've also decided not to sell the 90AA. No point selling a lens I'm likely to repurchase. I got it for a great price too.
Here are some final street shots with my 28cron. It's been sold today and I will miss it.
Prata maker
Give me a smile
Fauxhawked
Jungle outpost
I was told by the Leica store here to go back to the dealer, but tomorrow is a public holiday and I'm returning to London on Friday. Tough luck i suppose. I don't mind a worn lens, but not on my 2nd day. I'll pop by the Leica store in London to see if they can do anything. They're already going to look at some marks on the rear element.
I actually noted several of these tiny dots on my 90AA. But since i purchased it used I wasn't really bothered by it. They have the same feel as the one on my 35mm and I don't think it's brassing because brassing is of a different grey.
Anyway long story short, has anyone come across this before? I'm bothered by it because it's a brand new lens but i WILL get over it soon enough when it gets more use.
Ron, the prices of ZM glass here appear to be controlled by the importer. The prices are quite aligned to US prices as far as I know and definitely not at the lower end. I was checking out those japanese retailers for lens prices a few weeks back. Some are priced pretty competitively, plus you may get some tax back. As for CV glass, I'm not too sure. I know a few dealers who have them in stock, but never enquired far enough to ask for the more competitive and lowest prices.
I've also decided not to sell the 90AA. No point selling a lens I'm likely to repurchase. I got it for a great price too.
Here are some final street shots with my 28cron. It's been sold today and I will miss it.
Prata makerGive me a smileFauxhawkedJungle outpostSep 23, 2015 at 08:39 AM
p.1213 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
And here are some 28cron shots during a hike
Capillaries in the sky
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Treeflection
Converge
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p.1213 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Chas, it's a common occurrence with Leica lenses. It's white paint that is normally applied by hand by the old ladies at Wetzlar. The one who did your lens obviously has unsteady hands Try some methanol liquid (sensor cleaning grade) it should remove it easily.
Try some methanol liquid (sensor cleaning grade) it should remove it easily.Sep 23, 2015 at 09:18 AM
p.1213 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
edwardkaraa wrote:
Chas, it's a common occurrence with Leica lenses. It's white paint that is normally applied by hand by the old ladies at Wetzlar. The one who did your lens obviously has unsteady hands Try some methanol liquid (sensor cleaning grade) it should remove it easily.
That's a relief! I've done enough of scratching and rubbing of it for a lifetime. Shall leave it to leica UK to look at it.
Chas, it's a common occurrence with Leica lenses. It's white paint that is normally applied by hand by the old ladies at Wetzlar. The one who did your lens obviously has unsteady hands
Try some methanol liquid (sensor cleaning grade) it should remove it easily.That's a relief! I've done enough of scratching and rubbing of it for a lifetime. Shall leave it to leica UK to look at it.
Sep 23, 2015 at 11:20 AM
p.1213 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
aFrIcanSH wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote
Chas, it's a common occurrence with Leica lenses. It's white paint that is normally applied by hand by the old ladies at Wetzlar. The one who did your lens obviously has unsteady hands Try some methanol liquid (sensor cleaning grade) it should remove it easily.You might find this thread interesting
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/247514-white-spot-on-brand-new-apo-90mm-m-lens/#entry2850485
Sep 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM