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p.121 #1 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


My fix for moire is taking a sample of the correct colour using Photoshop's eyedropper, selecting a brush, setting it to colour mode and playing with the opacity/strength of the colour. I find this will fix problem areas pretty well most of the time. It might not get rid of some of the luminance irregularities, but brushing over the correct colour is usually good enough. This is also a quick and dirty fix for colour fringing. There are probably other, more elegant solutions, but it works for me.

Ron



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:16 AM
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p.121 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks Adam These shots were taken at f/1.4 which give the creamy and paintlike appearance. Once you stop down, to f/2.8 - f/4.0 it behaves differently but still maintains this style of rendering. A very unusual lens...lots to learn

The M9 warranty repairs just require the original receipt. When my M9 was recalibrated they just requested a copy of the original receipt. When the 50 Lux Asph was sent to Solms, about 6 year old lens for recalibration, this was done under warranty too with no receipt.



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:17 AM
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p.121 #3 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Joakim, nice setup! Looks familiar


Nov 29, 2010 at 04:21 AM
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p.121 #4 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


You know how the M9 Ti comes with a gun holster like thing. Does anyone sell those separately?
I want one for my M9 then I'd just get a loop hand-strap for the camera.

Any Ideas?



Nov 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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p.121 #5 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


There is..lemme find the damn link. Heh.

Here you go. Leicagoodies.com.

Edited on Nov 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM · View previous versions



Nov 29, 2010 at 10:55 AM
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p.121 #6 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


adamdewilde wrote:
You know how the M9 Ti comes with a gun holster like thing. Does anyone sell those separately?
I want one for my M9 then I'd just get a loop hand-strap for the camera.

Any Ideas?


Closest thing would be the street shooter and the sling.

Don't worry, there should be an alternative available soon. Usually Leica will not sell ltd edition accessories separately, but you never know



Nov 29, 2010 at 10:55 AM
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p.121 #7 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thrice beat me!

Thanks for the feedback on the m9, and thanks for making my desire greater with that photo, lol! I'm still deciding on my end result..I'll of course let everyone know.

Some not so great comments about the zeiss 35/2 and focus shift on the cv35/1.4. Hmm..



Nov 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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p.121 #8 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Charles, nice work on pushing 3 to 4 stops! Also , the 75 Lux is really a nice lens. Nice play of DOF on the portraits.

Adam, yes if you have the original receipts then that's all you need.. I recall that there was a fine print in my M9 manual that you need to register the camera within x number of days to have the warranty.. but I guess Leica customer service is pretty flexible if you have issues as Charles mentioned.

Ron, nice series of test shots with the ZM21/2.8. Thanks for sharing!

Joakim, Charles, the M9 grip looks comfortable, but the looks are not to my liking.. I like my M9 "au-natural"



Nov 29, 2010 at 11:27 AM
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p.121 #9 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


h00ligan wrote:
Alright members, I need some advice. I'm discussing the purchase of a used m9.. 4 months old at a reduction of about 22%. Were I to buy it it would become my main camera. That said what would you advise for a 35mm lens. I can only justify one lens for a bit, not a matter of afford but certainly a matter of justify, and I prefer 35mm for people photos. Caveat, it has to be fast because I like low light.


Any non-Leica lens will possibly have some issues with coding since the codes are tailored for Leica lenses. Something to keep in mind. Don't know if it is always an issue.

CV 35/1.4 - fast, small, cheap, reasonably sharp, might have some focus shift on the M9, some don't like the bokeh in certain situations

CV 35/1.2 - even faster, large, still not that expensive, somewhat low contrast wide open, but as someone once said, "If it had the Leica name on it, people would sing it's praises for eternity" (see Noctilux 50/1 for example). Don't think it has focus shift issues.

CV 35/2.5 - small, cheap, reportedly a great lens. Might be too slow

Leica 35/1.4 ASPH (new) - If you got the money, this is probably the one to buy. Everyone seems pretty happy with theirs

Leica 35/1.4 ASPH (old) - Just like the new one, but has focus shift. Possibly a bit softer up close as well due to the lack of the floating element. Maybe not though - not seen any tests. Whether or not the focus shift will affect you depends on your tolerance and shooting style.

Leica 35/2 ASPH - I've seen no complaints about this lens. Small, sharp, a great lens. Don't know if f/2 works for you.

Leica 35/2.5 Summarit - small and supposedly good lens. Might be too slow for you.

Leica 35/1.4 and 35/2 pre-ASPHs - Good lenses but will not be as sharp as the ASPHs wide open. I personally think the 35/2 pre-ASPH's bokeh can be a bit strange at times despite it's nickname.

Zeiss 35/2 - I had this lens for a year and thought it was awesome. It's not as big as some people say. It's plenty sharp wide open. It's very consistent. It seems to be getting a bad rap on this forum, but it's a pretty awesome lens in my book with almost ZERO distortion.

Zeiss 35/2.8 - the new favorite on rangefinderforum. People seem to love it, probably too slow for you. I'd only buy a lens like this if I had a faster alternative to pair up with it. And then probably never use the slow one, judging from my behavior at 28mm.

There are a couple of other good 35/2's out there (Konica Hexanon-M, etc), but you should be able to find something you like in the list above. Personally, I'd say try out the Zeiss 35/2 and form your own opinions about it. You should be able to pick up a used one for ~$700ish, and if you don't like it, sell it for about the price. If you got the cash, maybe try out the 35/2. You can do a lot with f/2.



Nov 29, 2010 at 11:40 AM
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p.121 #10 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Ron, your street pavement shot reminds me back to where street photography really started in the early 1900s. First it was the Impressionist painters (think it was Renoir's Place Clichy c. 1880s) who started painting "pavement" into his street scene?, followed by street photographers such as Kertesz, Dossineau, Wolf in the 1930s. (Ref: Scott, Clive; "Street Photography, From Atget to Cartier-Bresson." Cool!

Joe

Here's my contribution. M8 35CronIV








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p.121 #11 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Hey kid, thank you for your very well considered and time intensive reply. The 35/2 zeiss was what I was leaning toward initially, but then it took a beating. New leica glass is out of the budget I think.


Nov 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM
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p.121 #12 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


When the ZM 35/2 came out, many raved about it. Except for its size. Of course that was before there was a digital option for rangefinders (other than the Epson), so the raving was going on in locations other than here.

Mind you, I'm not knocking FM or the opinions held here, but it's worth remembering that there is a specific ecosystem here on FM and the overall opinions on certain equipment might be very different than that of other forums. You might end up agreeing with what is said here. Or you might be more in line with what is said over at RFF, or one of the many other forums around. You also might not like the latest and greatest as much as older lenses. I've read more than one account of someone who sold their 50 Summicron or Summilux pre-ASPH for a 50 Summilux ASPH and ended up regretting it.

You might be able to find a Leica 35/2 ASPH for around $1500 used. I have four Leica lenses and two cameras right now and have never purchased one new.



Nov 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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p.121 #13 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


charles.K wrote:
Thanks Luka Amazing shots and great compositions ! Great examples with all three lenses. The ZM 18 is an excellent lens! But I am also really liking the rendering with the 75 Cron, for landscapes. Beautiful window to Sweden in the Winter My son is leaving permanantly for Sweden in the few weeks to be with future fiancee in Gothenburg. So I will be visiting Sweden very soon


Thanks Charles! Let me know if you come to Stockholm and we can grab a beer

Excellent shots with the 50 Lux & 75 Lux! I particularly like the 50 Lux shots - they almost look like stills from a stage play. Lovely 75 Lux rendering as well



h00ligan wrote:
Alright members, I need some advice. I'm discussing the purchase of a used m9.. 4 months old at a reduction of about 22%. Were I to buy it it would become my main camera. That said what would you advise for a 35mm lens. I can only justify one lens for a bit, not a matter of afford but certainly a matter of justify, and I prefer 35mm for people photos. Caveat, it has to be fast because I like low light.

I'm comfortable with zone focusing on the m, I also know I'll get faster..what I don't know yet
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Edward, I can basically only repeat what I've previously said: My recommendation would be a 5DII and Zeiss ZE glass. As an only camera a DSLR is far more versatile and for the most part easier to use. Many people in this thread are of a different opinion but I would hesitate to have the M9 as an only camera. If I had to choose, I'd keep my 5DII. Such a decision is of course largely dependent on the type of photography you do for the most part. The M9 is superior for social photography and casual walk around photography whereas the 5DII is superior for tripod based landscape photography. When you need perfection in framing, focus and exposure a DSLR with live view is simply unbeatable. When you can afford to be more sloppy then an M9 has an advantage because of its light weight and the compact size of the lenses.

Then we come to lenses. If you are specifically drawn to Leica rendering then that is a very good reason for getting an M9. If not, then again the 5DII is a better choice as it will give you a wider variety of lenses both for Canon mount and adapted lenses. I like my DSLR lens collection by far more than my M9 lens collection.

In terms of image quality, the Leica resolves more detail but with top quality lenses on both sides the difference is minimal. M9 raw files have a better latitude especially in the shadows but I prefer the colors that the 5DII produces. In terms of colors I'd say that the 5DII is to the M9 what the Sony A900 is to the 5DII. Base ISO (ISO 100) on the 5DII is cleaner than base ISO on the M9 (ISO 160) and the 5DII is by far superior at high ISO (> 1600).

I would to summarize say that the greatest advantage of the M9 is its size (specifically the size of the lenses) and the way it feels to use. If you can live without those comforts then a DSLR makes more sense.


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joe88 wrote:
Here's my contribution. M8 35CronIV


Here's my contribution in response to your contribution that was in response to Ron's contribution








kidtexas wrote:
When the ZM 35/2 came out, many raved about it. Except for its size. Of course that was before there was a digital option for rangefinders (other than the Epson), so the raving was going on in locations other than here.


Ah yes, but that's quite a big difference, isn't it? Some lenses are great on film but suck on digital and vice versa. I like for instance Leica rendering more on film than on digital and the other way around for Zeiss rendering.



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:05 PM
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p.121 #14 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


denoir wrote:
Ah yes, but that's quite a big difference, isn't it? Some lenses are great on film but suck on digital and vice versa. I like for instance Leica rendering more on film than on digital and the other way around for Zeiss rendering.


Personally I feel that interesting lenses are interesting on film AND digital. But that's just my opinion

It's a different group of users. FM is much more (D)SLR oriented than RFF (obviously). I've just not heard many of the complaints you and some of the other fans of the ZE lenses have here on other forums. Not that you can't have those complaints - it's just different priorities and tastes.

I've read several times from users on RFF (who own Canon and Nikon DSLRs and have extensive lens collections there) that they much prefer the ZM lenses to the ZE ones. On the other hand, this forum is very pro-Zeiss, ZE and C/Y.



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:14 PM
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p.121 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


kidtexas wrote:
It's a different group of users. FM is much more (D)SLR oriented than RFF (obviously). I've just not heard many of the complaints you and some of the other fans of the ZE lenses have here on other forums. Not that you can't have those complaints - it's just different priorities and tastes.

I've read several times from users on RFF (who own Canon and Nikon DSLRs and have extensive lens collections there) that they much prefer the ZM lenses to the ZE ones. On the other hand, this forum is very pro-Zeiss, ZE and C/Y.


Yes, it's mostly DSLRs here so there is certainly a general bias in that direction. A direct comparison between ZE and ZM is difficult as there is great variation between the individual lenses.

From a purely personal perspective I can however say that some ZM lenses have met my expectations (ZM 18 and mostly ZM 25) but never really exceeded them. I like 50/1.5 Sonnar but it's a special lens and although I really do like it I can't say that I love it. The 35/2 ZM is perhaps the lens I perceive as the weakest one in my lineup. Generally speaking I have not really bonded with any of my M lenses although I'm far from disappointed by them.

The official Zeiss policy on the status of the lenses is generally clear. The ZM lenses are designed to be mid range, positioned between Voigtländer and Leica. The ZE lenses on the other hand are designed to be top end DSLR lenses. The prices of the lenses reflect that. There are a couple of exceptions such as the ZM 15/2.8 and ZM 85/2 which have been designed and priced as top of the line glass. The same goes with the ZE line with some inferior lenses such as the 18 ZE.

But, I can't complain as I've got both systems and can use each when I feel appropriate. In many situations I'm willing to forfeit my preference for ZE glass for my preference for the M9 + ZM compactness.



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:44 PM
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p.121 #16 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thank you Joe, nice shot! Very nice composition The 35 Cron IV works well with the M8.

Thank you Luka. Very nice shot
Progressing from the ducks! I will let you know when I visit Stockholm, and catch up for a beer!

Kidtexas, very nice summary of the lens!

Edward.... Good luck in your decison!



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:48 PM
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p.121 #17 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


denoir wrote:
Yes, it's mostly DSLRs here so there is certainly a general bias in that direction. A direct comparison between ZE and ZM is difficult as there is great variation between the individual lenses.


Never mind the differences in sensors

Yes, you are quite fortunate to have the best of both worlds.



Nov 29, 2010 at 03:54 PM
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p.121 #18 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks Charles Yes, before you know I'll have a picture of some mammal

kidtexas wrote:
Never mind the differences in sensors


Indeed. Add differences in RAW development to that as well.
















Nov 29, 2010 at 04:10 PM
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p.121 #19 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Luka, very nice shots! I really like #2


Nov 29, 2010 at 04:41 PM
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p.121 #20 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread


Thanks guys, the "sling" two hole finger device, is something I was thinking of just making out of leather (though I may just buy this for the fact that it's easier then making my own).

I was more looking for the gun holster that goes over your shoulder and around the chest.. I hope a third party company will make one soon... If anyone sees one, post it in here please

The street shooter is interesting, but not exactly what I'm looking for... Will consider it though, especially if you have a long strap you can keep the leica supported in the streetshooter then take it out and use it, but still have the security of a strap.

Best,
Adam



Nov 29, 2010 at 11:45 PM
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