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Archive 2010Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
p.2 #1Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Here's a few more:
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644563.KCgxme7O.IMG_3071.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644570.XT2Qrj3T.IMG_3076.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644565.vsrEguhB.IMG_3074.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644561.y6rf8uxm.IMG_3067.jpg
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644559.p5gFGvHw.IMG_3065.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644556.VjRoqZS4.IMG_3045.jpg
and this one has no photographic merit, but I just took it a couple of minutes ago to check out MFD, taken wide open, straight OOC
http://i.pbase.com/g3/46/550846/2/123113951.5CSf2YvC.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644563.KCgxme7O.IMG_3071.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644570.XT2Qrj3T.IMG_3076.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644565.vsrEguhB.IMG_3074.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644561.y6rf8uxm.IMG_3067.jpg
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644559.p5gFGvHw.IMG_3065.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644556.VjRoqZS4.IMG_3045.jpg
and this one has no photographic merit, but I just took it a couple of minutes ago to check out MFD, taken wide open, straight OOC
http://i.pbase.com/g3/46/550846/2/123113951.5CSf2YvC.jpg
Mar 28, 2010 at 06:17 PM
p.2 #2Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
#3 ... reminds me of Leica without the "Leica glow"
Mar 28, 2010 at 06:32 PM
p.2 #3Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
RustyBug wrote:
#3 ... reminds me of Leica without the "Leica glow"
I actually bought the Mamiya 80/1.9 as a less expensive replacement for the Leica Summilux 80/1.4. Both can have a similar look at times...I like the Leica more in retrospect, but not enough more to justify the 6x higher price.
#3 ... reminds me of Leica without the "Leica glow"
I actually bought the Mamiya 80/1.9 as a less expensive replacement for the Leica Summilux 80/1.4. Both can have a similar look at times...I like the Leica more in retrospect, but not enough more to justify the 6x higher price.
Mar 28, 2010 at 06:41 PM
p.2 #4Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Ooooops !!!
There goes the price of the 80/1.9
There goes the price of the 80/1.9
Mar 28, 2010 at 07:18 PM
p.2 #5Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
CVickery wrote:
Here's a few more:
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644565.vsrEguhB.IMG_3074.jpg
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644559.p5gFGvHw.IMG_3065.jpg
The detail in these shots is amazing...can't wait for my 645/EOS adapter to arrive.
Here's a few more:
http://i.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644565.vsrEguhB.IMG_3074.jpg
http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/46/550846/1/119644559.p5gFGvHw.IMG_3065.jpg
The detail in these shots is amazing...can't wait for my 645/EOS adapter to arrive.
Mar 29, 2010 at 07:45 AM
p.2 #6Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
CVickery,
Your pictures are beautiful! Could you please tell which of Mamiya lenses did you use? was it 80/1.9?
Your pictures are beautiful! Could you please tell which of Mamiya lenses did you use? was it 80/1.9?
Mar 29, 2010 at 08:26 AM
p.2 #7Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Edgars Kalnins wrote:
CVickery,
Your pictures are beautiful! Could you please tell which of Mamiya lenses did you use? was it 80/1.9?
Thanks. Yes I'm using the 80/1.9 on a 5DII
CVickery,
Your pictures are beautiful! Could you please tell which of Mamiya lenses did you use? was it 80/1.9?
Thanks. Yes I'm using the 80/1.9 on a 5DII
Mar 29, 2010 at 09:15 AM
p.2 #8Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
CVickery,
That's certainly VERY nice work.
What no one has done, though, is post comparisons between the f/1.9 and the f/2.8. That would close the issue, I guarantee you. Sadly, I no longer have my old test pics, but they told me exactly what you can read elsewhere online: The f/2.8 is a better lens overall. Sure, if you need more speed, then go for it, but if you need more speed, why not just get a FF lens?
The main reason to get a 645 lens for FF, besides just the fun of experimenting, is for tilt & shift. For most of that work, f/2.8 is more than you need.
So sez I.
That's certainly VERY nice work.
What no one has done, though, is post comparisons between the f/1.9 and the f/2.8. That would close the issue, I guarantee you. Sadly, I no longer have my old test pics, but they told me exactly what you can read elsewhere online: The f/2.8 is a better lens overall. Sure, if you need more speed, then go for it, but if you need more speed, why not just get a FF lens?
The main reason to get a 645 lens for FF, besides just the fun of experimenting, is for tilt & shift. For most of that work, f/2.8 is more than you need.
So sez I.
Mar 29, 2010 at 04:48 PM
p.2 #9Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I got one some weeks ago and tested it only wide open and one stop down (on Nikon D3/Fotodiox).
I like the lens extremely well and found it fully useable at f/1.9 (do mainly people). The bokeh was nice overall but reminded me of the ZF1.4/50 - rather lively than smoothened. With harsh lights/reflections in the background I noticed minor outlinings and slight signs of double-line bokeh (nisen bokeh). Expect your Rokinion to be smoother.
I didn't keep it as a good friend of mine was very interested in getting mine. The main reason was that I already have the ZF85 and in between my ZF50MP and ZF100 love the ZF85 for it's special different signature while delivering the same overall look and colors.
Wouldn't it have been for this, I would have kept the 80/f/1.9 as I liked it's color balance more than the Nikon lenses I had. I didn't try the Rokinion/Samyang/etc but from what I have seen, I was not encouraged to do so. For the small price you should be able to get the 80/1.9 for, it may well pay back.
Kind regards,
Bernd
I like the lens extremely well and found it fully useable at f/1.9 (do mainly people). The bokeh was nice overall but reminded me of the ZF1.4/50 - rather lively than smoothened. With harsh lights/reflections in the background I noticed minor outlinings and slight signs of double-line bokeh (nisen bokeh). Expect your Rokinion to be smoother.
I didn't keep it as a good friend of mine was very interested in getting mine. The main reason was that I already have the ZF85 and in between my ZF50MP and ZF100 love the ZF85 for it's special different signature while delivering the same overall look and colors.
Wouldn't it have been for this, I would have kept the 80/f/1.9 as I liked it's color balance more than the Nikon lenses I had. I didn't try the Rokinion/Samyang/etc but from what I have seen, I was not encouraged to do so. For the small price you should be able to get the 80/1.9 for, it may well pay back.
Kind regards,
Bernd
Mar 29, 2010 at 06:44 PM
p.2 #10Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Thanks for the compliment Cableaddict. You may be right about the f/2.8, but the f/1.9 was available locally for a very reasonable price, and since I bought it I haven't had any desire to try the slower lens.
Mar 29, 2010 at 07:39 PM
p.2 #11Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
-You also might have a stellar copy, who knows?
Based on those pics, I wouldn't be losing sleep over this!
Based on those pics, I wouldn't be losing sleep over this!
Mar 29, 2010 at 08:32 PM
p.2 #12Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I'm only losing sleep due to my work schedule...keeps me from photography at this time of the year. The kids and wife do need to eat though.Mar 29, 2010 at 08:43 PM
p.2 #13Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Still early stages for me - I have both the 80/2.8 and the 80/1.9. I much prefer the faster lens, despite its weight disadvantage (still its lighter than a ZE35!).
It's bokeh is less troubling than what I see in some images in this thread..very smooth and the detail...how long before people realise the old canard that MF lenses lack sharpness comparability with 35mm lenses is just that. I got a relatively new one, it's my belief that lenses suffer more with age than is commonly understood - all the little knocks in general usage.
+1 for Mr Vickery's flowers, very sweet. That is a good description of the 1.9 - sweet yet unfussy, and quite easy to focus. I got mine for portraits, for which I prefer a less 'peppy' yet stately look with excellent tonality, as opposed to the look that say, CZ lenses seem to impart. The 80 is a bit long for T&S maybe. There is also a family look with the 55/2.8, another very fine lens, very sharp.
And then there is the 'as shot' tonality and colour - I also have the feeling that shooting just the centre circle of these M645 lenses gives the image a lack of distortion, light and sharpness fall-off that really assists the final product. They are not going to give the zeiss effect, where you know the lens will give you a distinctive look to pretty much any scene - but in good light and a good subject...
It's bokeh is less troubling than what I see in some images in this thread..very smooth and the detail...how long before people realise the old canard that MF lenses lack sharpness comparability with 35mm lenses is just that. I got a relatively new one, it's my belief that lenses suffer more with age than is commonly understood - all the little knocks in general usage.
+1 for Mr Vickery's flowers, very sweet. That is a good description of the 1.9 - sweet yet unfussy, and quite easy to focus. I got mine for portraits, for which I prefer a less 'peppy' yet stately look with excellent tonality, as opposed to the look that say, CZ lenses seem to impart. The 80 is a bit long for T&S maybe. There is also a family look with the 55/2.8, another very fine lens, very sharp.
And then there is the 'as shot' tonality and colour - I also have the feeling that shooting just the centre circle of these M645 lenses gives the image a lack of distortion, light and sharpness fall-off that really assists the final product. They are not going to give the zeiss effect, where you know the lens will give you a distinctive look to pretty much any scene - but in good light and a good subject...
Mar 29, 2010 at 08:53 PM
p.2 #14Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Got my Mamiya 80 f1.9 today in great condition and even came with the Mamiya 80 f1.9 hood.I am going to like this lens.Sharp as a tack wide open, and so far i have not run into any problems with bokeh.Here are some quick shots that i took on my way home from work.All were taken wide open on my 5D.A few of the sheep shots had a tad slow shutter and both were shot at iso 3200
-Jim
1 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4482427130_c49cd244e3_b.jpg
2 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4481784039_79220d3408_b.jpg
3 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2741/4481788141_ebc8b9a343_b.jpg
4 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4481791635_4ec770364f_b.jpg
5 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4481796049_6ef5f375f8_b.jpg
6 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4481800291_6c9e50abe1_b.jpg
7 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4481805269_f53d27266e_b.jpg
8 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4482460278_f5e632eb50_b.jpg
9 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4482465266_4569c8a51b_b.jpg
10 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4481823449_546237afd7_b.jpg
-Jim
1 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4482427130_c49cd244e3_b.jpg
2 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4481784039_79220d3408_b.jpg
3 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2741/4481788141_ebc8b9a343_b.jpg
4 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4481791635_4ec770364f_b.jpg
5 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4481796049_6ef5f375f8_b.jpg
6 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4481800291_6c9e50abe1_b.jpg
7 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4481805269_f53d27266e_b.jpg
8 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4482460278_f5e632eb50_b.jpg
9 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4482465266_4569c8a51b_b.jpg
10 .http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4481823449_546237afd7_b.jpg
Apr 01, 2010 at 01:48 PM
p.2 #15Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Enjoy and congrats. My first M645 was the 200 APO. Bought it on a lark and, in all honesty, after years of uber-Leica, Zeiss, CV., etc glass, modest expectations. Reaction to my first shots was "$%^&, this cost how much?!". Not too long after, I borrowed Jim C's 80/1.9 to give it a go - my reaction after the first day's use was an offer (smartly declined) to buy it. The first of my 80's and a 120/4 A and 150 A followed - and have been an absolute pleasure to use.
BTW - That's one PO'd looking rooster (or is it a hen?)...
Edited on Apr 01, 2010 at 03:41 PM · View previous versions
BTW - That's one PO'd looking rooster (or is it a hen?)...
Edited on Apr 01, 2010 at 03:41 PM · View previous versions
Apr 01, 2010 at 03:39 PM
p.2 #16Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Looks very nice Jim. The bokeh looks a bit odd in the last one...beside the disks on the upper left side.
Apr 01, 2010 at 03:39 PM
p.2 #17Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I'm not loving the bokeh in any of these samples.
JJ
JJ
Apr 01, 2010 at 04:08 PM
p.2 #18Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
a few more to evaluate.both wide open on 5D.As with any lens it takes a while to learn its strengths and weaknesses.This lens is sharp as a tack wide open.Does seem to struggle with some backgrounds, but i think that can be dealt with.Color is typical Mamiya.
-jim
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/4483218530_cf358567c4_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4483216260_1e54ff2e6f_b.jpg
-jim
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/4483218530_cf358567c4_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4483216260_1e54ff2e6f_b.jpg
Apr 01, 2010 at 08:11 PM
p.2 #19Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Quick grab today.The blues are insane with these Mamiya lenses.Landscape Picture Style was used in DPP
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4484384891_3fbb199a83_b.jpg
@1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4485051472_5079ab0888_b.jpg
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4484384891_3fbb199a83_b.jpg
@1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4485051472_5079ab0888_b.jpg
Apr 02, 2010 at 01:43 PM
p.2 #20Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
JohnJ wrote:
I'm not loving the bokeh in any of these samples.
JJ
I must admit I'm not as well. I think I'll get the 80/2.8.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
I'm not loving the bokeh in any of these samples.
JJ
I must admit I'm not as well. I think I'll get the 80/2.8.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 02, 2010 at 06:05 PM