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Archive 2010Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
p.3 #1Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Here is another one that i took wide open with the Mamiya f1.9 I am learning it is a lens that may not handle all backgrounds well, but i see nothing wrong with this bokeh, you can compare it with the Rokinon as well.Something also to note is the Mamiya has a bit shorter MFD which might affect the way it renders certain situations as well.
#1 Mamiya 80mm f1.9 @1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4485414076_dfd357675f_b.jpg
#2 Rokinon @1.4 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4448977280_dbcbccbd2a_b.jpg
#1 Mamiya 80mm f1.9 @1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4485414076_dfd357675f_b.jpg
#2 Rokinon @1.4 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4448977280_dbcbccbd2a_b.jpg
Apr 02, 2010 at 07:59 PM
p.3 #2Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Wanted to post a few more taken with the 80mm to show its bokeh, it seems that is what gets all the attention.It does have some ugly bokeh with certain backgrounds, seems to render cylindrical,vertical shapes somewhat oddly.But in MOST cases it does very well.Here are a few more to evaluate.This lens is very sharp wide open and has outstanding color on my 5D.Stopped down sharpness is off the charts.
All of these shots were @1.9
-jim
1 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4494125596_58cdceafb7_b.jpg
2 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4491631796_372cddb193_b.jpg
3 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4491613702_e512d984e7_b.jpg
All of these shots were @1.9
-jim
1 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4494125596_58cdceafb7_b.jpg
2 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4491631796_372cddb193_b.jpg
3 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4491613702_e512d984e7_b.jpg
Apr 05, 2010 at 12:27 PM
p.3 #3Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Jim, I hope that's a fence in the background of the first shot and not some weird bokeh?
Apr 05, 2010 at 12:30 PM
p.3 #4Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Zombi,
good eye.Yes that is why i posted this shot.It is a standard chain link fence about 3-5 feet away from the fountain.
-Jim
good eye.Yes that is why i posted this shot.It is a standard chain link fence about 3-5 feet away from the fountain.
-Jim
Apr 05, 2010 at 12:33 PM
p.3 #5Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I like it....
Bokeh can be different on different situations...I haven't seen any lens that produces a perfect bokeh, if there ever was one, in every possible situations.
How much do the Mamiya lenses run?
And, which ones are to get?
Bokeh can be different on different situations...I haven't seen any lens that produces a perfect bokeh, if there ever was one, in every possible situations.
How much do the Mamiya lenses run?
And, which ones are to get?
Apr 05, 2010 at 01:12 PM
p.3 #6Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Jim Schemel wrote:
Here is another one that i took wide open with the Mamiya f1.9 I am learning it is a lens that may not handle all backgrounds well, but i see nothing wrong with this bokeh, you can compare it with the Rokinon as well.Something also to note is the Mamiya has a bit shorter MFD which might affect the way it renders certain situations as well.
#1 Mamiya 80mm f1.9 @1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4485414076_dfd357675f_b.jpg
So tell me...who won the "stare down" contest?
Here is another one that i took wide open with the Mamiya f1.9 I am learning it is a lens that may not handle all backgrounds well, but i see nothing wrong with this bokeh, you can compare it with the Rokinon as well.Something also to note is the Mamiya has a bit shorter MFD which might affect the way it renders certain situations as well.
#1 Mamiya 80mm f1.9 @1.9 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4485414076_dfd357675f_b.jpg
So tell me...who won the "stare down" contest?
Apr 05, 2010 at 03:13 PM
p.3 #7Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I always win.I am the Alpha Cat 
-Jim
-Jim
Apr 05, 2010 at 03:57 PM
p.3 #8Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Just got back from a four day bushwalk, I used this one quite a bit. You do need to be careful of the background, nothing unusual there IMO. The bokeh is a little shizophrenic - a nervy, imposing look sometimes - perhaps because the lens does many things well, and yes, the MFD is fabulous. Lots of contrast, so perfectly suited to high DR cameras. Excellent colour and an 'authentic', though not dull look - high clarity in fact.
I looked for plain backgrounds which are very rewarding in the ensuing image, soft and dreamy with a well-controlled defocus zone. It excels with close subjects in these conditions, with fine detail rendition. And I have to chuckle at the 'not as sharp as 35mm lenses' comments after an hour or so of 100% PS viewing.
For those with one, the Mirex TS gives great scope for fine-tuning the fade away from focus for near-far shots.
So in summary, a mixed bag - Conner999 may be right, the earlier C model may bring out the best in the lens's main features. Mine is a later N.
I looked for plain backgrounds which are very rewarding in the ensuing image, soft and dreamy with a well-controlled defocus zone. It excels with close subjects in these conditions, with fine detail rendition. And I have to chuckle at the 'not as sharp as 35mm lenses' comments after an hour or so of 100% PS viewing.
For those with one, the Mirex TS gives great scope for fine-tuning the fade away from focus for near-far shots.
So in summary, a mixed bag - Conner999 may be right, the earlier C model may bring out the best in the lens's main features. Mine is a later N.
Apr 05, 2010 at 05:23 PM
p.3 #9Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Paul Yi wrote:
How much do the Mamiya lenses run?
Not much IMHO.
Paul Yi wrote:
And, which ones are to get?
All of them.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
How much do the Mamiya lenses run?
Not much IMHO.
Paul Yi wrote:
And, which ones are to get?
All of them.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 07, 2010 at 01:58 AM
p.3 #10Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Yakim Peled wrote:
Not much IMHO.
All of them.
Happy shooting,
Yakim.
I agree! Another quick grab with my 80mm @1.9
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4500404143_fa59f309ce_b.jpg
Paul Yi wrote
How much do the Mamiya lenses run?Paul Yi wrote
And, which ones are to get?Happy shooting,
Yakim.
I agree! Another quick grab with my 80mm @1.9
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4500404143_fa59f309ce_b.jpg
Apr 07, 2010 at 02:44 PM
p.3 #11Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Inspired by your shots I passingly bought an inexpensive 80/2.8 C. Now I need to find a cheap adapter to use it
Apr 07, 2010 at 04:44 PM
p.3 #12Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Jim Schemel wrote:
I agree! Another quick grab with my 80mm @1.9
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4500404143_fa59f309ce_b.jpg
The lack of vignetting in that image is quite impressive.
JJ
I agree! Another quick grab with my 80mm @1.9
-Jim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4500404143_fa59f309ce_b.jpg
The lack of vignetting in that image is quite impressive.
JJ
Apr 07, 2010 at 04:47 PM
p.3 #13Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
JJ, Thanks
Yeah, this lens does not vignette wide open.
-Jim
Yeah, this lens does not vignette wide open.
-Jim
Apr 07, 2010 at 05:07 PM
p.3 #14Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Help! I have just discovered that my 80/2.8 C has some oil on aperture blades (on the edges). It seems in a very good condition otherwise. I wonder if it is easy to clean the blades? Would I be able to do it myself (accessing the blades)? If it is expensive and difficult I will have to send it back.
Apr 08, 2010 at 02:05 PM
p.3 #15Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
If it doesn't affect function.....don't worry about it unless you bought it at a premium price. In this case you have to weigh the cost of return shipping into the equation.
The repair is not a difficult one if you have done it before or know someone who can do it.
The repair is not a difficult one if you have done it before or know someone who can do it.
Apr 08, 2010 at 02:32 PM
p.3 #16Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I won it on ebay and i think I would get my delivery costs back. My worry is, can that oil evaporate in heat and get on the internal surfaces of the lens?
Apr 08, 2010 at 02:43 PM
p.3 #17Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Edgars Kalnins wrote:
I won it on ebay and i think I would get my delivery costs back. My worry is, can that oil evaporate in heat and get on the internal surfaces of the lens?
You have to remember that the lubricant was in the lens since it was manufactured. With time, grease breaks down and migrates and hence the "oil". You may very well be able to use the lens for a very long time without any problems but it is also possible to end up with residue on the internal elements. In any case the visible presence of oil does devalue the lens.
I believe residue is a function of the composition of the original lubricant, heat and the amount of use. I have encountered many Canon FD lenses with internal oil residue problems. You could try doing some research to see if Mamiyas have a tendency for this in order to try to predict what may happen with your lens.
If you have to send the lens back you will mormally be out the cost of the return shipping.
I won it on ebay and i think I would get my delivery costs back. My worry is, can that oil evaporate in heat and get on the internal surfaces of the lens?
You have to remember that the lubricant was in the lens since it was manufactured. With time, grease breaks down and migrates and hence the "oil". You may very well be able to use the lens for a very long time without any problems but it is also possible to end up with residue on the internal elements. In any case the visible presence of oil does devalue the lens.
I believe residue is a function of the composition of the original lubricant, heat and the amount of use. I have encountered many Canon FD lenses with internal oil residue problems. You could try doing some research to see if Mamiyas have a tendency for this in order to try to predict what may happen with your lens.
If you have to send the lens back you will mormally be out the cost of the return shipping.
Apr 09, 2010 at 04:36 AM
p.3 #18Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
zombii,
Which version of the lens do you have? I have the C version of the 80mm f1.9 and have not noticed much CA, or maybe i just am not looking for it.Also do you have the hood for the lens?
-Jim
Which version of the lens do you have? I have the C version of the 80mm f1.9 and have not noticed much CA, or maybe i just am not looking for it.Also do you have the hood for the lens?
-Jim
Apr 09, 2010 at 01:12 PM
p.3 #19Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
I've got the N version Jim. No Hood. I may have to check out a C version. If yours has much and you shoot it wide open in the sun, you'll definitely notice it. I wondered if maybe the C was better.
Apr 09, 2010 at 04:40 PM
p.3 #20Mamiya 80f1.9 Samples/Opinions on FF Sensor
Wide open on 5D
-Jim
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2138/4506055861_6336c6b377_b.jpg
-Jim
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2138/4506055861_6336c6b377_b.jpg
Apr 09, 2010 at 06:14 PM