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p.15 #1 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


For any 1D Mark IV owners who have been waiting for the Capture One update that supports the 1D Mark IV files, it is finally available. It is a rather large download. At 234 MB, it is over 3 times as large as the Capture One 5 download. I'm not sure why.

Les



Feb 22, 2010 at 08:29 AM
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Nick Nishizaka wrote:
Shot a concert today in a bar with craptastic lighting.
... Pretty good for ISO12800 I would say!



Nick, These look very good for sure. Have you run noise reduction software on these, or some other processing affecting noise?

Thanks,

John-



Feb 22, 2010 at 08:56 AM
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uz2work wrote:
For any 1D Mark IV owners who have been waiting for the Capture One update that supports the 1D Mark IV files, it is finally available. ...


That's timely – my Mark IV is out on the big brown truck for delivery today. ;-)

Nill



Feb 22, 2010 at 09:27 AM
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EOS20 wrote:
Dpreview have their 1D MkIV Review up:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1dmarkIV/


Again they are extremely careful not to step on RG's toes. Nevertheless it is very impressive.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Feb 22, 2010 at 09:43 AM
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John Caldwell wrote:
Nick, These look very good for sure. Have you run noise reduction software on these, or some other processing affecting noise?

Thanks,

John-


Yep, I ran them through my usual workflow for high ISO images which includes a 3 pass NR routine.



Feb 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM
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So the battery life is supposed to be a lot less with the 4 than with the 3, but I just finished a lacrosse tournament over two days and 9 games. I shot a little more than 2800 images with the 4, did a little chimping and the battery life shows 29% left. Very good. I was surprised I only needed one battery and never had to go to the backups.


Feb 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM
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When you are shooting continuously like that, it's pretty normal to get 2000-3000 images. It's when you turn the camera on and off, or leave the camera in sleep for an extended period of time that kills the battery. Cold weather would also shorten battery life.



Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM
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Nick Nishizaka wrote:
When you are shooting continuously like that, it's pretty normal to get 2000-3000 images. It's when you turn the camera on and off, or leave the camera in sleep for an extended period of time that kills the battery. Cold weather would also shorten battery life.


This is something I never understood. Yesterday I shot 4 bike races and had ~3,500 images. The battery was not fresh, but it showed 100% so it was close. In the middle of the last race the battery showed about 1/3 so I stopped chimping and shot the rest of the event.

Then I went home and recharged the battery; big deal. If you know you are going to shoot for 10-12 hours; which I often do when I am shooting BIF/wildlife I just recharge at night and am ready for the next day.

My 1d2 never needed a backup battery (which I always recharged and had in my camera bag) even in the all day 2k+ image shoots with lots of chimping if the battery was recharged the night before. My short experience with the 1d4 leads me to think it will be the same.

What kind of conditions would a photographer be in where they could not recharge the battery while they were sleeping between shoots?



Feb 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM
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Nill Toulme wrote:
That's timely – my Mark IV is out on the big brown truck for delivery today. ;-)

Nill


Nill,

Bet you will love it. Every time I use mine I am more impressed. One thing I have noticed is that while AF can be, and usually is great, sometimes things just don't work out. My first thought is user error. I shot a multi-lap bike race yesterday staying in the exact same spot, just past the finish line. I got several great series of images of racers coming directly towards me, but once in a while the first (or may be more) image was OOF; however mostly they were all in focus.

I am also playing around with the CFs and experimenting with different shooting styles for different CFs settings.

I am counting on you to come up with the ideal CFs settings to help me out.



Feb 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM
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ragebot wrote:
Nill,

Bet you will love it. Every time I use mine I am more impressed. One thing I have noticed is that while AF can be, and usually is great, sometimes things just don't work out. My first thought is user error.

I am also playing around with the CFs and experimenting with different shooting styles for different CFs settings.

I am counting on you to come up with the ideal CFs settings to help me out.



I welcome your results also.!
Dan



Feb 22, 2010 at 12:17 PM
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I wish I had one...then I can show you the right C-Fns ....any loaner.. a week or two maybe ?


Feb 22, 2010 at 12:18 PM
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Nick Nishizaka wrote:
Yep, I ran them through my usual workflow for high ISO images which includes a 3 pass NR routine.


What NR software did you use here, Nick?

Thanks,

John-



Feb 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM
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p.15 #13 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


kewlcanon wrote:
I wish I had one...then I can show you the right C-Fns ....any loaner.. a week or two maybe ?


Come onnnnnn downnnnnn!!!! OJT is "doable"!!! I might actually learn something!
Dan



Feb 22, 2010 at 01:06 PM
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p.15 #14 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


John Caldwell wrote:
What NR software did you use here, Nick?

Thanks,

John-


I've been messing around with a few plugins to come up with a specific workflow for the 1DMKIV files.

Either Nik Dfine or NeatImage Pro+. I first try to remove the color noise. dFine is very good at removing the color blotches present when shooting at ISO12800, so that's what I usually use for pass 1. For pass 2 & 3, I have the option of using any one of the NR plugins I have, whether it be the 2 I already mentioned or Noise Ninja. For the concert photos, I got a little lazy and used Noise Ninja.



Feb 22, 2010 at 01:11 PM
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Nick and John,
I use Dfine 2.0 and love it!!!! But each member here has their own preference.
I tried NN and the others but they just didn't produce the results I wanted.
Good Luck!
Dan



Feb 22, 2010 at 01:16 PM
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p.15 #16 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


I played around yesterday at my son's birthday party with Auto ISO for the first time ever. Interesting how it works. This image was at F4 1/100 and ISO 8000.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4379094453_9ed5c8e67b_o.jpg



I am very comfortable shooting at 8000 and 10000 ISO with this camera. I test printed this at 12x18 and its unbelievable.


Matt



Feb 22, 2010 at 01:28 PM
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Man, I can't wait to shoot with mine! I am stunned by the ISO performance of this camera! Is this one straight outta the camera?


Feb 22, 2010 at 01:50 PM
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Heh, I glanced at that and thought ISO 800, OK, looks nice, but why is he showing it to us (other than it being such a cute kid). Then I read the last line and thought, 8000! Whoa! ;-)

Nill




Feb 22, 2010 at 02:37 PM
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mdbassman wrote:
Come onnnnnn downnnnnn!!!! OJT is "doable"!!! I might actually learn something!
Dan




Feb 22, 2010 at 02:41 PM
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p.15 #20 · Mark IV hands-on only thread


Susi I'm not a PP guy. If I don't get it out of the camera close, I'm pretty much screwed. This is a JPEG shot in camera not raw, Faithful picture style. My typical PP is so simple it's scary.

open in CS3, Crop to taste(this is a slight crop) curves adjustment to set White point(I picked something on her shoe for this image) run through Noise ninja on defaults and back down the top setting(I think its smoothness or something will check when I get home) to 6 and then resize twice to 1000px long side.


Nill she is cute, she isn't even mine, just a sample image I had online today I could grab and toss up to the thread.

One note I've found above 5000 ISO I'm almost going back to my 1D classic days where I expose to the right just a bit and mind where my shadows are. I seem to get the cleanest images doing this. below 3200 I can fudge much more with saving underexposure. I'm very happy with my camera. The more I shoot with it(only 2300 or so clicks so far) the more I'm finding the learning curve easier to handle. But my editors are very happy with images that I'm turning in and even though they don't know why I've been praised for better images as of late even coming from the 1DMKIII and 1DsMKII.


Matt



Feb 22, 2010 at 03:01 PM
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