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p.9 #1Canon EOS 7D Master thread
willis wrote: I don't see how technology can ever change diffraction limits... It could be done in the time domain. If you assume that the sensor is way better than the lenses, which one day it could be, then the camera electronics could vary focus distance during exposure in order to extend d.o.f. at a wide aperture, and compile the sharpest data. The sensor might capture 5 frames in 1/100th of a second, for example. It would have to be done very quickly to ensure subject movement wasn't captured, but it's physically possible. Software would then compile an image by choosing...Show more →
Hmm... not sure 'sci-fi' and 'doable' sit comfortably in the same sentence but it's certainly something for the 1DsV designers to think about.
Hmm... not sure 'sci-fi' and 'doable' sit comfortably in the same sentence but it's certainly something for the 1DsV designers to think about.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:31 AM
p.9 #2Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I'll buy a 7D, but I'm am baffled why Canon did not develop the 50D sensor with the new tech. I'm sure the results would have been even more impressive and generated an even more +ve response to the 7D.
Maybe it wasn't ready when the 50D was being developed. A year is a long time.
I'll buy a 7D, but I'm am baffled why Canon did not develop the 50D sensor with the new tech. I'm sure the results would have been even more impressive and generated an even more +ve response to the 7D.
Maybe it wasn't ready when the 50D was being developed. A year is a long time.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:32 AM
p.9 #3Canon EOS 7D Master thread
keithreeder wrote:
point in the future we probably will butt up against the absolute physical limits of what a crop sensor can achieve,
Well now, if the quality of the new crop of 8MP phone cameras is anything to go by, then possibilities of a massive sensor like the 7D in comparison, is almost fathomless.
point in the future we probably will butt up against the absolute physical limits of what a crop sensor can achieve,
Well now, if the quality of the new crop of 8MP phone cameras is anything to go by, then possibilities of a massive sensor like the 7D in comparison, is almost fathomless.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:39 AM
p.9 #4Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I get the sense that this is such a fundamentally different design of sensor (and yes I know - it's what Canon wants me to think! 
) that Canon really wanted to start afresh.
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) that Canon really wanted to start afresh.Edited on Sep 02, 2009 at 09:43 AM · View previous versions
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:40 AM
p.9 #5Canon EOS 7D Master thread
gbee wrote:
Well now, if the quality of the new crop of 8MP phone cameras is anything to go by, then possibilities of a massive sensor like the 7D in comparison, is almost fathomless.
True enough - there's some very impressive IQ (relatively speaking) falling out of those things.
Well now, if the quality of the new crop of 8MP phone cameras is anything to go by, then possibilities of a massive sensor like the 7D in comparison, is almost fathomless.
True enough - there's some very impressive IQ (relatively speaking) falling out of those things.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:41 AM
p.9 #6Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Nowhere Man wrote:
Does anyone know where the USB is located? I can't find on the pictures.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page6.asp
It's under the rubber flap just like most other EOS cameras.
Does anyone know where the USB is located? I can't find on the pictures.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page6.asp
It's under the rubber flap just like most other EOS cameras.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:46 AM
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p.9 #8Canon EOS 7D Master thread
The 30D files certainly clean up pretty well from a chroma point of view, but my 40D displays significantly less luminance noise, which is far more important (in my opinion) as chroma is very easy to fix without detail loss.
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:52 AM
p.9 #9Canon EOS 7D Master thread
kakomu wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page6.asp
It's under the rubber flap just like most other EOS cameras.
Ugh. I feel dumb now. Thanks!
Nowhere Man wrote
Does anyone know where the USB is located? I can't find on the pictures.It's under the rubber flap just like most other EOS cameras.
Ugh. I feel dumb now. Thanks!
Sep 02, 2009 at 09:53 AM
p.9 #10Canon EOS 7D Master thread
kewlcanon wrote:
Youtube
"For the most demanding photographers..."
And in fine print "Bloody FMers..."
Youtube
"For the most demanding photographers..."
And in fine print "Bloody FMers..."
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:00 AM
p.9 #11Canon EOS 7D Master thread
As a 5DII owner, better for your sanity to be bored by the 7D than to be pissed that it's better than your 5DII in every way except for FF-ness
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:06 AM
p.9 #12Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Yohan Pamudji wrote:
As a 5DII owner, better for your sanity to be bored by the 7D than to be pissed that it's better than your 5DII in every way except for FF-ness
I think I'd wait for the real-world results. And it's still a crop camera.
As a 5DII owner, better for your sanity to be bored by the 7D than to be pissed that it's better than your 5DII in every way except for FF-ness
I think I'd wait for the real-world results. And it's still a crop camera.
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:08 AM
p.9 #13Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Official 7D Product Videos. Warner Music Group silenced the first clip for some odd reason.
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:15 AM
p.9 #14Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Chris Beaumont wrote:
The 30D files certainly clean up pretty well from a chroma point of view, but my 40D displays significantly less luminance noise, which is far more important (in my opinion) as chroma is very easy to fix without detail loss.
My 40D (processed in Cap One 4 or Raw Therapee) has less - and finer-grained - Luma and notably less Chroma, than my 30Ds: if the 7D is as good as or better than the 40D (and first impressions are very positive) then bring it on.
One thing about higher density sensors and noise - as I mention above - (comparing 30D to 40D files really brought this home for me) is that Luma will be much finer, other things being equal, which makes it much less obtrusive.
The 30D files certainly clean up pretty well from a chroma point of view, but my 40D displays significantly less luminance noise, which is far more important (in my opinion) as chroma is very easy to fix without detail loss.
My 40D (processed in Cap One 4 or Raw Therapee) has less - and finer-grained - Luma and notably less Chroma, than my 30Ds: if the 7D is as good as or better than the 40D (and first impressions are very positive) then bring it on.
One thing about higher density sensors and noise - as I mention above - (comparing 30D to 40D files really brought this home for me) is that Luma will be much finer, other things being equal, which makes it much less obtrusive.
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:22 AM
p.9 #15Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Wouldn't it be like a swift kick to the balls of 1Ds Mark III owners if this camera had more dynamic range?
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:27 AM
p.9 #16Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I've look at the different viewfinder mode displays, and I don't see any square grid display. As 7D doesn't have changeable Vf screen, I would have guess Canon would have incorporate LOT more options for display, specially gris display (square, 6/4.5, etc). Am I missing something ? I would love a square mode with 50% black out borders !
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:28 AM
p.9 #17Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Noise or grain in film is so very much less than film ever was it rarely bothers me. 1600 and a huge crop and you see some noise (grain to me) and oh my, there it is. It doesn't bother me at all. It is just part of the image, work with it. On the other hand, progress makes accepting the same amount of noise/grain at 320 asa (whatever) as was with film (slide) far from acceptable so I contradict myself. It's all good and I enjoy not looking through the focussing split finder of my Leica IIIC any longer. But it was a good learning experience with a fine camera back in the late 1960's.
Hey, we have come a long way baby!
Hey, we have come a long way baby!
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:31 AM
p.9 #18Canon EOS 7D Master thread
I am not impressed with the noise level in the RG 7D samples at this URL:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
The Reggae concert images are awful
The pond, soccer, and profile pics have too much noise
sort of a blah digital look.
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http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239
The Reggae concert images are awful
The pond, soccer, and profile pics have too much noise
sort of a blah digital look.
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Sep 02, 2009 at 10:32 AM
p.9 #19Canon EOS 7D Master thread
brainiac wrote:
Note that Canon has stated that interchangeable focus screens will not be available, so those who like to manually focus or use alt lenses are hosed.
Apparently I'm not the only one who sees this as a major issue with this camera.
You might find this and the subsequent "discussion" fun reading, Richard: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/809422/9#7480833
Note that Canon has stated that interchangeable focus screens will not be available, so those who like to manually focus or use alt lenses are hosed.
Apparently I'm not the only one who sees this as a major issue with this camera.
You might find this and the subsequent "discussion" fun reading, Richard: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/809422/9#7480833
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:33 AM
p.9 #20Canon EOS 7D Master thread
abqnmusa wrote:
Looks like the 50D revisited -- too many pixels in a tiny 1.6 sensor
And again - they're qualitatively hardly any different to the 5D Mk II shots from the same set.
Looks like the 50D revisited -- too many pixels in a tiny 1.6 sensor
And again - they're qualitatively hardly any different to the 5D Mk II shots from the same set.
Sep 02, 2009 at 10:41 AM