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p.3 #1EF 200 F2 Sample Images
perspective wrote:
That's certainly a valid view but I think there's another side to this that I learned firsthand. This lens is horribly expensive for 200mm. There's a lot of hesitancy in people to buy this lens.
Well, I think most people should have a very good idea if they NEED this lens or not before they rush out and buy it.
I certainly wouldn't buy it to get better image quality over the 200/2.8, for example.
It's meant for those who want the IS and the extra stop!
That's certainly a valid view but I think there's another side to this that I learned firsthand. This lens is horribly expensive for 200mm. There's a lot of hesitancy in people to buy this lens.
Well, I think most people should have a very good idea if they NEED this lens or not before they rush out and buy it.
I certainly wouldn't buy it to get better image quality over the 200/2.8, for example.
It's meant for those who want the IS and the extra stop!
Jul 18, 2008 at 05:23 PM
p.3 #2EF 200 F2 Sample Images
DavidP wrote:
Well, I think most people should have a very good idea if they NEED this lens or not before they rush out and buy it.
I certainly wouldn't buy it to get better image quality over the 200/2.8, for example.
It's meant for those who want the IS and the extra stop!
Exactly. If there is a better image quality it is a bonus and basically thats my point, I just want the IS and extra stop.
Perry
Well, I think most people should have a very good idea if they NEED this lens or not before they rush out and buy it.
I certainly wouldn't buy it to get better image quality over the 200/2.8, for example.
It's meant for those who want the IS and the extra stop!
Exactly. If there is a better image quality it is a bonus and basically thats my point, I just want the IS and extra stop.
Perry
Jul 18, 2008 at 05:51 PM
p.3 #3EF 200 F2 Sample Images
The issue here is not the price that Canon's set a price to there cost in RD, advertisement, marking and tooling up for a new lens.
The point is live with the examples people post over ones illusionary assumption of entitlement for more samples because you have a internet connection.
And thanks perspective for sharing your photographs.
The point is live with the examples people post over ones illusionary assumption of entitlement for more samples because you have a internet connection.
And thanks perspective for sharing your photographs.
Jul 18, 2008 at 07:23 PM
p.3 #4EF 200 F2 Sample Images
dfindr,
I'm still looking for the 'stunning' in the photo you posted. It's not a bad image, but I'd prefer to have both of the girl's eyes in focus, not just one or half of her face. So many people have become infatuated with shallow DOF and big apertures that I think sometimes people forget about some of the basics in photography. While I'd say you have a more flattering light than the OP, I wouldn't call it stunning. I'd like to see the photograph at 1/50 shutter, hand-held.
While I cannot comment on using either lens because I don't own one, I really don't have a purpose for such a lens. However, I wouldn't hesitate for one second to buy a new f/2 version because I really enjoy IS, it makes panning easier, and it's supported by Canon so repairs are quite easy and painless. Although ISO noise control and quality have come a long ways in recent times, it's pretty hard to beat a cleaner, noise-less (or just less noise) image. That's where IS can come in handy, assuming, of course, that your image is static.
OP, wonderful images! It must be nice to have such a luxury lens. Off-topic, does your son like Kool-Aid? His drink mustache reminds me of all the photos of my brother and I when we were kids! 
~Travis
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:12 AM
I'm still looking for the 'stunning' in the photo you posted. It's not a bad image, but I'd prefer to have both of the girl's eyes in focus, not just one or half of her face. So many people have become infatuated with shallow DOF and big apertures that I think sometimes people forget about some of the basics in photography. While I'd say you have a more flattering light than the OP, I wouldn't call it stunning. I'd like to see the photograph at 1/50 shutter, hand-held.
While I cannot comment on using either lens because I don't own one, I really don't have a purpose for such a lens. However, I wouldn't hesitate for one second to buy a new f/2 version because I really enjoy IS, it makes panning easier, and it's supported by Canon so repairs are quite easy and painless. Although ISO noise control and quality have come a long ways in recent times, it's pretty hard to beat a cleaner, noise-less (or just less noise) image. That's where IS can come in handy, assuming, of course, that your image is static.
OP, wonderful images! It must be nice to have such a luxury lens.
Off-topic, does your son like Kool-Aid? His drink mustache reminds me of all the photos of my brother and I when we were kids! ~Travis
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:12 AM
Jul 19, 2008 at 01:09 AM
p.3 #5EF 200 F2 Sample Images
PrecisionPhoto wrote:
For those that bitch about not seeing enough good work from the lens, go buy one so we can bitch at your work.
Sitting back and complaining about it is just typical cheap internet chatter showing how spoiled we've become.
Just enjoy what's there or put up the cash or shut up
Your logic is odd: for those who are considering the lens - buy it anyway? Why shouldn't we wait to see if it is worth $9000 (current UK price)?
Spoiled would be just buying whatever kit Canon come out with, without waiting to see if its performance is what we're after.
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 02:41 AM
For those that bitch about not seeing enough good work from the lens, go buy one so we can bitch at your work.
Sitting back and complaining about it is just typical cheap internet chatter showing how spoiled we've become.
Just enjoy what's there or put up the cash or shut up
Your logic is odd: for those who are considering the lens - buy it anyway? Why shouldn't we wait to see if it is worth $9000 (current UK price)?
Spoiled would be just buying whatever kit Canon come out with, without waiting to see if its performance is what we're after.
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 02:41 AM
Jul 19, 2008 at 02:39 AM
p.3 #6EF 200 F2 Sample Images
I'm just waiting for the Nikon vs Canon 200 f/2 show down.
Jul 19, 2008 at 02:43 AM
p.3 #7EF 200 F2 Sample Images
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I'm just waiting for the Nikon vs Canon 200 f/2 show down.
I'd like to see EF 200 f1.8 vs. EF 200 f2 IS vs. Nikkor 200 f2 VR vs. Leica 180 f2 vs. Zuiko 250 f2.
I'm just waiting for the Nikon vs Canon 200 f/2 show down.
I'd like to see EF 200 f1.8 vs. EF 200 f2 IS vs. Nikkor 200 f2 VR vs. Leica 180 f2 vs. Zuiko 250 f2.
Jul 19, 2008 at 08:00 AM
p.3 #8EF 200 F2 Sample Images
Lord Fluff wrote:
Your logic is odd: for those who are considering the lens - buy it anyway? Why shouldn't we wait to see if it is worth $9000 (current UK price)?
Spoiled would be just buying whatever kit Canon come out with, without waiting to see if its performance is what we're after.
Wow Limey your missing the point big time
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Your logic is odd: for those who are considering the lens - buy it anyway? Why shouldn't we wait to see if it is worth $9000 (current UK price)?
Spoiled would be just buying whatever kit Canon come out with, without waiting to see if its performance is what we're after.
Wow Limey your missing the point big time
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Jul 19, 2008 at 08:29 AM
p.3 #9EF 200 F2 Sample Images
No, you're right, I don't see your point. I'm happy for you to elaborate, but easy on the name-calling thanks.
Jul 19, 2008 at 09:50 AM
p.3 #10EF 200 F2 Sample Images
PetKal wrote:
I'd like to see EF 200 f1.8 vs. EF 200 f2 IS vs. Nikkor 200 f2 VR vs. Leica 180 f2 vs. Zuiko 250 f2.
RobG will work it in, right after his final review of the 1D3.
I'd like to see EF 200 f1.8 vs. EF 200 f2 IS vs. Nikkor 200 f2 VR vs. Leica 180 f2 vs. Zuiko 250 f2.
RobG will work it in, right after his final review of the 1D3.
Jul 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM
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DavidP wrote:
RobG will work it in, right after his final review of the 1D3.
He might as well get into lens testing.....for no retailer will sell him a Canon camera again.
PetKal wrote
I'd like to see EF 200 f1.8 vs. EF 200 f2 IS vs. Nikkor 200 f2 VR vs. Leica 180 f2 vs. Zuiko 250 f2.He might as well get into lens testing.....for no retailer will sell him a Canon camera again.
Jul 19, 2008 at 10:54 AM
p.3 #12EF 200 F2 Sample Images
I'm interested in this lens and all the banter but am kinda glad
that I still have nothing but admiration for my EF200/f2.8L (when
I get it right!). IS would no doubt come in handy for me but
I really don't need an f/1.8 or f/2 lens speed tho it'd be neat to play
with Cost is doable for me but I really can't justify the disproportionate
extra bucks for speed I'd really have very little use for.
From pics here I can say I like the colors achieved and IS does
really seem to be helping. It may be too early to comment on sharpness
which I really don't expect to be as bleeding as the f/2.8L, neither
do I expect it to be.
that I still have nothing but admiration for my EF200/f2.8L (when
I get it right!). IS would no doubt come in handy for me but
I really don't need an f/1.8 or f/2 lens speed tho it'd be neat to play
with
Cost is doable for me but I really can't justify the disproportionateextra bucks for speed I'd really have very little use for.
From pics here I can say I like the colors achieved and IS does
really seem to be helping. It may be too early to comment on sharpness
which I really don't expect to be as bleeding as the f/2.8L, neither
do I expect it to be.
Jul 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM
p.3 #13EF 200 F2 Sample Images
It's not just the extra cost, it's the extra weight and issues of "being noticed", etc.
If f/2.8 cuts it for you, there's no reason to desire the f/2 IS lens.
And if you really need IS, there's always the 70-200/2.8 IS, too.
If f/2.8 cuts it for you, there's no reason to desire the f/2 IS lens.
And if you really need IS, there's always the 70-200/2.8 IS, too.
Jul 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM
p.3 #14EF 200 F2 Sample Images
Here's a shot of my uncooperative 4 year old Shot in my backyard in the shade. Breezbrowser conversion, no post other then downsize and minor sharpening. Blue yogurt mustache!
1/400 F2.8 ISO 200 AI SERVO
http://www.dougonline.org/200/kim.jpg
1/500 F2.8 ISO 200 AI SERVO
http://www.dougonline.org/200/kim2.jpg
Edited by BuLLets on Jul 19, 2008 at 02:16 PM GMT
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Shot in my backyard in the shade. Breezbrowser conversion, no post other then downsize and minor sharpening. Blue yogurt mustache!1/400 F2.8 ISO 200 AI SERVO
http://www.dougonline.org/200/kim.jpg
1/500 F2.8 ISO 200 AI SERVO
http://www.dougonline.org/200/kim2.jpg
Edited by BuLLets on Jul 19, 2008 at 02:16 PM GMT
Edited on Jul 19, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Jul 19, 2008 at 12:35 PM
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DavidP I had that zoom but sold it quickly due to size/weight/conspicuousness
issues tho now my son has one (on my old 30D) so I have easy access whenever needed. It's a good copy but neither his nor the one I owned was up to the IQ/color/snap of my EF200L.
issues tho now my son has one (on my old 30D) so I have easy access whenever needed. It's a good copy but neither his nor the one I owned was up to the IQ/color/snap of my EF200L.
Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM
p.3 #16EF 200 F2 Sample Images
BuLLets wrote:
Here's a shot of my uncooperative 4 year old Shot in my backyard in the shade. Breezbrowser conversion, no post other then downsize and minor sharpening. Blue yogurt mustache!
A very charming shot. As if she is saying "Daddy I'll kill ya if you keep pointing that thing at me !"
Here's a shot of my uncooperative 4 year old
Shot in my backyard in the shade. Breezbrowser conversion, no post other then downsize and minor sharpening. Blue yogurt mustache!A very charming shot. As if she is saying "Daddy I'll kill ya if you keep pointing that thing at me !"
Jul 19, 2008 at 12:51 PM
p.3 #17EF 200 F2 Sample Images
I have no choice but to shoot the kids. I'd prefer a more cooperative model (wife) but if I tried that she'd really shoot me
Jul 19, 2008 at 12:58 PM
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Liscia wrote:
DavidP I had that zoom but sold it quickly due to size/weight/conspicuousness
Then you definitely do NOT want the 200/2 IS or 200/1.8
DavidP I had that zoom but sold it quickly due to size/weight/conspicuousness
Then you definitely do NOT want the 200/2 IS or 200/1.8
Jul 19, 2008 at 01:38 PM
p.3 #19EF 200 F2 Sample Images
DavidP wrote:
It's not just the extra cost, it's the extra weight and issues of "being noticed", etc.
If f/2.8 cuts it for you, there's no reason to desire the f/2 IS lens.
And if you really need IS, there's always the 70-200/2.8 IS, too.
Let me put you at ease here. I carried around my 200 f/2L for hours at a rodeo on Friday and even with a 2x and then a 1.4x adapter on it. I hardly noticed the weight and no one noticed me, and if they did they didn't say anything at all. In the spirit of full disclosure I must admit I had my XSi on it instead of my 1Ds III. If I had the 1Ds I'd have noticed the weight I think. Maybe not though because I have a pretty clever shoulder strap/clamp combination I use on my cameras that distributes the weight over a larger area than those horrible neck straps that one gets by default with these lenses and bodies.
I don't have the pictures ready yet though because I'm at the lake soaking up some sun. Monterey has been too darn cold the last two weeks so I had to go to Paso Robles to warm up and I'm still here.
Edited on Jul 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM
It's not just the extra cost, it's the extra weight and issues of "being noticed", etc.
If f/2.8 cuts it for you, there's no reason to desire the f/2 IS lens.
And if you really need IS, there's always the 70-200/2.8 IS, too.
Let me put you at ease here. I carried around my 200 f/2L for hours at a rodeo on Friday and even with a 2x and then a 1.4x adapter on it. I hardly noticed the weight and no one noticed me, and if they did they didn't say anything at all. In the spirit of full disclosure I must admit I had my XSi on it instead of my 1Ds III. If I had the 1Ds I'd have noticed the weight I think. Maybe not though because I have a pretty clever shoulder strap/clamp combination I use on my cameras that distributes the weight over a larger area than those horrible neck straps that one gets by default with these lenses and bodies.
I don't have the pictures ready yet though because I'm at the lake soaking up some sun. Monterey has been too darn cold the last two weeks so I had to go to Paso Robles to warm up and I'm still here.
Edited on Jul 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Jul 20, 2008 at 12:31 AM
p.3 #20EF 200 F2 Sample Images
Anyone with the lens finding it a little bit difficult attaching and removing the lens hood? It's a lot harder to do when compared with my 300 2.8.
Edited on Jul 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Edited on Jul 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Jul 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM