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p.12 #1 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Dim.ka_ wrote:
Hello Alf, what camera was used - Sigma sd10?

No, my SD14...The following shots are all SD14 in-camera jpegs taken handheld in London with my Canon FL 55mm f1.2..Its no supprise that its my favorite lens!:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5859/sdim0376cwk2.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7885/sdim0366cjn4.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/34/sdim0358coy5.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3852/sdim0339caz4.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9812/sdim0377cpt8.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9869/sdim0388cwl9.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/702/sdim0390ctg7.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8123/sdim0396cld7.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9746/sdim0398cso4.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2382/sdim0426cbc0.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6457/sdim0435cbk9.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1407/sdim0439cgq3.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4452/sdim0447cbh5.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6379/sdim0470ctt1.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1544/sdim0542cjw2.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6329/sdim0545ckt3.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7173/sdim0549bcaa2.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9066/sdim0558cuw6.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6093/sdim0561cfa5.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8146/sdim0562cbu8.jpg

Wait a bit, next week should arrive my new toy - SD14, then i will try to do mount convertion for using it with Minolta MC/MD lenses (Will use Rokkor 58 1.2, Rokkor 85 1.7, Rokkor 21 2.8mm)


I have only had one Rokkor, the 58mm f1.4, which I converted to SA mount and I was'nt very impressed with it...Optically it was no better than my Cheapo (£3 inc postage!!!) Pentacon 50mm f1.8.
The Canon FL 55mm f1.2 is the best 50mm-ish lens I have ever used period and I've used quite a few...Its easily a match for my Carl Zeiss 85mm f1.4 Planar T*, but more useful because its wider.


Edited on Jul 11, 2008 at 01:47 PM



Jul 11, 2008 at 01:45 PM
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p.12 #2 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Wow amazing! I owned a DP-1 and I forgot the resolving power that the Foveon Sensor puts out. Great shots!


Jul 11, 2008 at 02:04 PM
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p.12 #3 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


SJMD wrote:
Since the 1.2 are getting hard to find, how are the 1.4


If you mean the Rokkor 58mm f1.4 then I would'nt bother as its an average performer.



Jul 11, 2008 at 05:13 PM
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p.12 #4 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


wiregen wrote:
Wow amazing! I owned a DP-1 and I forgot the resolving power that the Foveon Sensor puts out. Great shots!


Thanks Wiregen.



Jul 11, 2008 at 05:15 PM
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p.12 #5 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I'd like to thank Cogitech for the wonderful write up as I've just became a new and extremely happy Rokkor 58 1.2 shooter. This lens very quickly became my favorite, along with the CZ Planar 100/2.

I got my copy from a local photography teacher. The lens has some minor clouding at the outer rim of the rear element, I suspect the lens was cleaned and the person didn't do a very good job. But most importantly, one finally came up for sale and it was at a very good price (USD $140).

This lens should be a fairly late version with the serial number of 2765183. It's marked as MC Rokkor without "PG" or "X" and has a rubber ring.

http://www.kaoboys.com/jkao/clips/bab.jpg
http://www.kaoboys.com/jkao/clips/bab2.jpg

I'd also like to issue a friendly reminder to anyone ready to go through the the conversion to really, really take your time and exercise a lot of patience AND concentration when filing the retaining ring, as Cogitech advised. After the 3rd pass, I got carried away and picked up the speed a little while talking to a friend. The next I know, there was a very small scratch at the center of the rear element.

I had just accidentally filed the rear element!

So far it doesn't seem to be effecting the image quality, and I'll probalby never use this lens at anything but wide open. But I don't think the gross feeling I have towards myself will go away anytime soon.

I have yet to achieve focus at infinity, but it's getting closer.

One thing I'd like to know and suggest to add to the write up is how the others protected/cleaned the rear element before/during/after filing the retaining ring?





Jul 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM
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p.12 #6 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete



jkao0826, Why did you file the retaining ring if you only have a crop body (according to your profile?) When mine gets here later this week, I plan on NOT filing the ring at all, unless I eventually go full frame.

Edited on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM



Jul 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM
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p.12 #7 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Because a 5D should be coming very soon, and we have a 1Ds at work that I'd like to try with this lens on. I also want to save myself the trouble of having to take the lens apart again.

- Jeff



Jul 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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p.12 #8 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Aha!


Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM
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p.12 #9 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I cant believe my luck. I was searching for the Rokkor 85mm 1.7 at B&H and ran across a 58mm 1.2 rated 8 for $200.00 Yup I gotta another one coming!! This one I am going to document all the orginal measurments so I know exactly how far to mill (or sand) the shim to for other mounts. I may not actually modify it, but use it on my x570.


Jul 30, 2008 at 02:34 PM
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p.12 #10 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


And I was excited about my $275 KEH find! (EX condition).


Jul 30, 2008 at 02:59 PM
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p.12 #11 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I may use it for a trade for the 85mm, I just love what is coming from the 58mm. Been thinking about the other Rokkors also ...100mm 2.5, 200mm 4.0


Jul 30, 2008 at 03:35 PM
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p.12 #12 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I have had an older metal focus ring version of this lens for 20 years. It was my favorite on my XE5. I'ts really a fun lens.

Since going digital, I haven't used it for a few years. I now have a 1Ds, has any one tried a converted 58 1.2 on the 1Ds? How different is the mirror from the 5D?

Thanks,

Lawrence




Aug 01, 2008 at 09:18 PM
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p.12 #13 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Well, success! (Mostly). I have mounted my first Rokkor 58 f/1.2. It took a lot longer than I anticipated. I did OK with the hole drilling, but still only got three of the 4 aligned (don't know how I messed up the fourth...the adapter probably slid). Anyway, the three are snug, so I'm not too worried. I am ALMOST to infinity. My arms were so tired from sanding that I just had to stop when I got to the point where infinity focuses about 35 feet away. I'll tune it further at a later date. I had no idea how long the sanding would take. Maybe I need better sandpaper, but it took a solid hour of sanding to get it to where I am now.

Since I have another on the way, I will probably not do a second conversion, but rather will see which is optically superior (if there's a difference) and keep that one converted, and sell the other unconverted. If the second one is better, I'll transfer the modded shim and aperture ring to that lens...then I'll put the Minolta mount on this one. However, if the second is better optically, I'd be really pleased, since this one is quite good!

First, the lens, on my 30D:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/rokkor58.jpg

Bokeh at f/1.2:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/rokkor_bokeh.jpg

100% Crop at f/1.2 (different shot, but focused better):
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/rokkor_crop12.jpg

Shot at f/2:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/rokkor_f2.jpg

100% crop of above:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/rokkor_crop2.jpg

I am pleased with wide open performance, though the DOF is SO thin that hitting focus exactly is going to be a challenge, I can see. At f/2 and beyond, it is VERY sharp, and still has nice, pleasing bokeh, so I can't complain!

Edited on Aug 02, 2008 at 12:22 AM



Aug 02, 2008 at 12:18 AM
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p.12 #14 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I tried to put the modded shim and rear element on another copy and everything went out of whack. Inf focus went way past...


Aug 09, 2008 at 03:36 AM
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p.12 #15 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Not a problem....the second one is for sale in B&S right now, so I won't be switching the mounts around.


Aug 09, 2008 at 09:16 AM
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p.12 #16 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


well, i got one at ebay, on it's way soon. I'm looking forward to testing it out on my 30d!


Aug 12, 2008 at 10:16 AM
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p.12 #17 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I finally got around to converting a Rokkor 58mm too, I used an Olympus adapter, which required substantially more removal of the minolta mount to reach infinity. It is an AF confirmation adapter!

A few test shots @F1.2:

http://www.planetwidephoto.com/_images/FM/PLW40554.jpg

http://www.planetwidephoto.com/_images/FM/PLW40554crop.jpg

http://www.planetwidephoto.com/_images/FM/PLW40585.jpg

http://www.planetwidephoto.com/_images/FM/PLW40593.jpg

Over all the lens is very nice and it will see use along with my Pentax 50/1.2

Edited on Aug 13, 2008 at 06:04 PM



Aug 13, 2008 at 06:04 PM
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Andrew Gough wrote:
I finally got around to converting a Rokkor 58mm too, I used an Olympus adapter, which required substantially more removal of the minolta mount to reach infinity. It is an AF confirmation adapter!


Andrew,
Ooohh, la la!
Looks like you have a winner. Can you elaborate on the Oly adapter (pics maybe) and removal of the minolta mount? What does the AF confirm do for the Rokkor?
I can hardly wait to get mine and convert it.

Thanks,
JayT



Aug 13, 2008 at 07:56 PM
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p.12 #19 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I used Cogitech's method, but the Oly adapter is a lot thicker. The OM register is 46mm, whereas the Minolta is 43.5mm. People are using the M42 mount which is 45.5mm The required register for Canon is 44mm. So, I painstakingly sanded the approx 2-2.5mm off and viola it worked, and AF confirmation too!

Edited on Aug 14, 2008 at 08:34 AM



Aug 13, 2008 at 09:26 PM
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p.12 #20 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


So, I think I'm done converting now.. so I have a question about my infinity-workings.

Is this as close to infinity as I'll get (i do get af-confirm like 500-1000m from where i stand)

full image:


infinity crop:


And for sharpness, should I expect more than this, or should I be happy and jolly, I have never had a 1.2 before, so I'm a bit unsure.. :P

Full image:


Crop:



(first image is f/8, last is f/1.2 )

Edited on Aug 22, 2008 at 07:36 AM



Aug 22, 2008 at 07:35 AM
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