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Brody LeBlanc
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p.2 #1 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


hey paul, i just sent you a PM about this lens.


Apr 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Daniel Goller
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p.2 #2 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


i haven't seen one in a while, thanks to you, they will go even quicker, curse you! ;P

...Thanks



Apr 12, 2008 at 08:35 PM
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p.2 #3 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Well, here's a tidbit just for all you FMers who I love so much:

The old ones are a great deal.

(Read between the lines)






Apr 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.2 #4 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Cogitech, Congratulations - you just outbid me on the last second, with recent 58 1.2 ebay auction . Concerning older and newer version of that lense - Recently i have picked up Minolta XD-7 with Rokkor 58 1.2 and there is yellow cast (UV rays can help to cure that problem) from the lense and here it is small comparison between two versions http://www.rokkorclub.com/board/bbs/board.php?bo_table=siyou&wr_id=39971&page=9
With digital camera it is not a big deal, since you could adjust white balance, but anyway i am looking for a newer version



Apr 18, 2008 at 07:09 AM
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p.2 #5 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I guess I was willing to pay more. Sorry.

Hint: There are more than 2 versions (I've had 4 versions so far)

See my comment above regarding "the old ones".

Edited on Apr 18, 2008 at 10:36 AM



Apr 18, 2008 at 10:35 AM
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p.2 #6 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


cogitech wrote:
I guess I was willing to pay more. Sorry.

Hint: There are more than 2 versions (I've had 4 versions so far)

See my comment above regarding "the old ones".


Paul. Please explain...

A



Apr 18, 2008 at 02:39 PM
Daniel Goller
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p.2 #7 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I'm with Anden, it's too cryptic for me :/
I mean, i don't see any anywhere, how is the age important, of course i saw (here) two people bid over one i didn't see.....

Edited on Apr 18, 2008 at 03:49 PM



Apr 18, 2008 at 03:48 PM
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p.2 #8 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Hmm.. I know where I could get either copy.. I wonder how this would work with a 1DmkIII?
All of the examples I've seen so far have immensely impressed me.

On my mkIII it'll be a 75mm though, kind of odd FL hehe.

Oh and perhaps I'm dense too but I didn't quite get the read between the lines thing. I clearly saw a difference in the website posted. But there are so many versions!

So far I've found:

MC-Rokkor PG (old version w/ silver mount)
MC-Rokkor X (newer version as in your write up)
MC-Rokkor PG (newer lens style)

So which is the best to get? The newest one? being the X?

Edited on Apr 20, 2008 at 12:58 AM



Apr 18, 2008 at 11:58 PM
AbramG
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p.2 #9 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Any more input on this lens?

Oh and I do think its funny when you look at the rokkor and noct-nikkor side by side, they look very very similar



Apr 20, 2008 at 11:40 PM
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p.2 #10 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


This lens will NOT clear the mirror at infinity on 1DMKIII ( unless you shave it of course )
X version is the best. There are still 2 version of X. One comes with newer (light magenta color ) coating. The older coating is a little yellowish which it was designed for black and white photography.

Edited on Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52 PM



Apr 21, 2008 at 01:51 PM
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p.2 #11 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


According to my experience and research, the "X" version is neither the newest nor the best. The "X" is simply a "later" version that was marketed in America only. Identical lenses of this vintage were marketed in Europe with no "X" in the name.

Based on the many samples I have tested, there is no reason to buy a "later" version or an "X" version.








Apr 21, 2008 at 02:20 PM
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p.2 #12 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Aw so it won't clear on a mkIII? Boo.. I'm not up for shaving the mirror personally..

If anyone wants to buy one of these though, PM me and I'll link you to the page I found them at.

*after talking with Cogitech, I bet this would still work because realistically, how often would I be using this lens at ∞?

Edited on Apr 21, 2008 at 11:23 PM



Apr 21, 2008 at 05:47 PM
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p.2 #13 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I think mine is named X PG or PG X. Is this the fourth version?

A



Apr 22, 2008 at 03:00 AM
s23chang
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p.2 #14 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Just 2 versions. ROKKOR - PG and ROKKOR-X PG
http://members.aol.com/xkaes/5012.htm




Apr 22, 2008 at 03:28 AM
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p.2 #15 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


s23chang wrote:
Just 2 versions. ROKKOR - PG and ROKKOR-X PG
http://members.aol.com/xkaes/5012.htm



Like I said, that is incorrect information.

I have already had 4 versions on my desk.



Apr 22, 2008 at 05:20 AM
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p.2 #16 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Sorry everyone, I was wrong. There are actually 5 variations (so far), 4 of which I've had on my desk (multiple copies of some):

#1 MC Rokkor-PG 1:1.2 f=58mm (Metal focus grip, radioactive) - Serial # 200xxxx & 257xxxx (not sure if 257xxxx is radioactive yet)

#2 MC Rokkor-PG 1:1.2 f=58mm (Rubber focus grip) - Serial # 258xxxx

#3 MC Rokkor-X PG 1:1.2 f=58mm (Rubber focus grip) - Serial # 271xxxx

#4 MC Rokkor 1:1.2 f=58mm (Rubber focus grip) - Serial #274xxxx

#5 MC Rokkor-X 1:1.2 f=58mm (Rubber focus grip) - Serial # 274xxxx

Edited by cogitech on Apr 22, 2008 at 07:56 AM GMT

Edited on Apr 22, 2008 at 07:56 AM



Apr 22, 2008 at 05:42 AM
Anden
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p.2 #17 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Thanks Paul. Will have to check the serial later today.

IMO the metal focus grip are the best looking...

A



Apr 22, 2008 at 06:26 AM
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p.2 #18 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


I wonder why they had so many variations? Different markets perhaps?


Apr 22, 2008 at 09:24 AM
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p.2 #19 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


In Paul's classification tables, #2 and #3 is essentially same, so are #4 and #5.
It is because Rokkor-X version is export model since 1973 (late rubber focus grip),
which has Yellow one (for North America and Asia) and White one (for Europe),
though different colour naming is not clearly known why.



Apr 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
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p.2 #20 · Rokkor 58/1.2 EOS Howto Complete


Thanks KOJI, I suspected that was the case.

In a few weeks I will know if there are 2 variations of the metal focus ring PG version.



Apr 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM
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