Hello, I am curious as to what experience other 1Ds Mark III users are having with the EOS Integrated Cleaning System effectiveness. I have taken about 700 images with mine and the sensor is quite dirty. I haven't been anywhere photographing that was abnormally dusty. I was hoping for more from the self cleaning system. In fact it was one of the main reasons for upgrading from the 1Ds Mark II. I tried using a Giotto blower and that didn't seem to help. My communication from Canon is to send it in. This is not an option because I can't be without my camera that long. With my previous 1Ds Mark II, I have used the Visible Dust Sensor Brush and for more stubborn spots, the Sensor Clean on their Sensor Swab's. Has anyone tried this combination on the 1Ds Mark III? Is there anything unique to the 1Ds Mark III that could be damaged by this method? If anyone has a good and safe system for cleaning, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks,
J. Paul
New from Canon, my sensor was/is filthy, as is my VF. Mine is going to need a good wet cleaning which is something that my 1DMkIII didn't need once in the nine months I owned it. Says a lot about their QC.
My 1Ds3 has about 20k clicks now and let me tell you I find the automatic cleaning system worse than useless. It's set to automatically clean. Also, every day and after every lens change I do a manual cleaning (from the menu, that is). This manual cleaning is more vigorous.
Despite all this, the sensor seems to turd up at about the same rate as that of my 1Ds and 1Ds2 did. The big difference is that the 1Ds3 sensor is a huge pain in the a$$ to clean. Something has to be different; sensor brushes (of various types) don't get it off. Wet cleaning is far more difficult than on the older 1Ds bodies, even though I am using the same tools & methods. The sensor mount is somehow different, probably because of the dust shaker.
At any rate I'd rather have the 1Ds2 sensor assembly.
Stanj this is troubling news! Not only is the automatic sensor cleaning not working, but it is now made more difficult by the new layout in the sensor area. What were they thinking? The official solution is to use a blower and if that doesn't work, you have to send it in to have it cleaned by a technician. For a working pro this is unacceptable. I am losing that warm and fuzzy feeling about my new purchase.
Thanks,
J. Paul
jpaulmoore wrote:
Hello, I am curious as to what experience other 1Ds Mark III users are having with the EOS Integrated Cleaning System effectiveness. I have taken about 700 images with mine and the sensor is quite dirty. I haven't been anywhere photographing that was abnormally dusty. I was hoping for more from the self cleaning system. In fact it was one of the main reasons for upgrading from the 1Ds Mark II. I tried using a Giotto blower and that didn't seem to help. My communication from Canon is to send it in. This is not an option because I can't be without my camera that long. With my previous 1Ds Mark II, I have used the Visible Dust Sensor Brush and for more stubborn spots, the Sensor Clean on their Sensor Swab's. Has anyone tried this combination on the 1Ds Mark III? Is there anything unique to the 1Ds Mark III that could be damaged by this method? If anyone has a good and safe system for cleaning, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks,
J. Paul...Show more →
We use the wet method and clean the sensor once a week in the studio, and use the air blower whenever we see dust particles on test shots and resort to wet method when air blower does not cut it.
The first interview question for all my assistants is "any experience in cleaning sensor? "
It was my understanding that Eclipse 2 was the correct liquid, not plain Eclipse. Something about tin coating on the outside surface of the AA filter that was damaged by the more volatile Eclipse 1 solvent? Same liquid (Eclipse 2) for the 5D, 40D and new 1Ds. Am I misinformed ?
Red
Photographic Solutions has done extensive testing on the 5D CMOS with Eclipse and come to the conclusion that it is perfectly safe. There were a handful of 5D's from the first batch made whose ITO-coatings were improperly applied, and when Eclipse came into contact with them, there was quite a bit of flaking of the coating. You have to remember this camera was introduced at the end of 2005 (upgrade time, Canon?). But my understanding now is that Canon has finally acknowledged the in-house problem and if your 5D's ITO-coating is damaged at all by Eclipse, Canon will replace it free of charge.
I also have to agree with stan and jpaul - the dust-shakers are just about a complete waste of time and chamber space. I have a D300 (sorry) and I can run it til doomsday and it only moves the very loose dust specks, the same kind that you can blow off with a Rocket blower. I would prefer to eliminate the shaker assembly altogether because I still have to wet-clean the darn thing.
Wouldn't you think that a $8000 camera should have a decent dust removal system. Actually, I am thinking someone should come to my house and wet clean it for me any time I need it..ha!
If they (the manufacturers) aren't going to make them automatic dust removal systems effective, they shouldn't be there. I am for making the sensors easier to get to for manual cleaning.
J. Paul
Red,
Yes, rural VA is gorgeous. I live a stone's throw from Mabry Mill, the most photographed mill in the US.
J. Paul,
I wholeheartedly agree. They have tightened up the walls of the chamber to help prevent stray light reflections, and in the case of my camera, have given the walls a texture, sort of like felt. All you've got to do is look at a typical sensor assembly witha dust-shaker to see how bulky it is: http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/image/89021913
If anyone is interested, I've posted an image with directions at the bottom of the image to check your sensor for dust. It shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes to do and it's just about foolproof: http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/image/95174363/original
I thought the newer cameras held an image in place that it would subtract (as a dust "mask") from each shot you take. I wasn't clear on when it did that (i.e., every time you change lenses or via some manual setting/button), but thought that this was a new "feature" in addition to the dusk shaker.
Anthony,
Yes, it's in the software, a "dust-mapping". It's actually been in Nikon software before they came out with the dust-shaker. You take a test shot, and it removes the dust shadows from any image you apply it to. But what happens if you're out shooting all day with many lens changes and the dust is moving around on you considerably?
