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1D MkIII Poll #3: Does yours have AF issues?
<#505xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 27 2%
#505xxx - 509xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 9 1%
#510xxx - 514xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 20 1%
#515xxx - 519xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 15 1%
#520xxx - 524xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 22 2%
#525xxx - 529xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 16 1%
>#530xxx: YES, it has AF issues ------------------------- PollPollPoll 10 1%
<#505xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 20 1%
#505xxx - 509xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 18 1%
#510xxx - 514xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 23 2%
#515xxx - 519xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 25 2%
#520xxx - 524xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 34 2%
#525xxx - 529xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 20 1%
>#530xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 23 2%
[I don't plan on owning a MkIII; show me the results.] PollPollPoll 1104 80%
Total Votes 1386 100%

Archive 2007 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?

  
 
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p.36 #1 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Shooting soccer and football I have noticed an interesting phenomenon...

When using center point only, my 1D3 is not as consistent as when I use the the single FP that is just outside the center circle to the right (I almost always shoot vertically). Why this is I am not sure.

It could be that the head and torso is an easier target for AF, the arm motion doesn't "confuse" the AF or the lower precision sensor (other than center) is more reliable or I am more consistently framing for some reason with this FP. I always am shooting with either a 300/2.8L plain for with a 1.4x or 2x attached.

I vary the tracking sensitivity speed to either faster or slower based on how and where I'm shooting (ie. lots of intervening players or few) and how well I'm framing on a particular day. I don't know about you but for me some days I am just more on than other days.

If you've observed the same with regard to focus point selection I'd like to know. If you haven't give it a try.



Sep 20, 2007 at 02:56 PM
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p.36 #2 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


>I love MF and wish I could use it all the time, but 10 fps and moving objects is a bit beyond my skillset.

According to the the Drew test the 1D3 is the best at this with only 60% keepers of a runner. With practice...



Sep 20, 2007 at 03:11 PM
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p.36 #3 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Seems to think this is a hardware issue from his quick test...

http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=112118



Sep 20, 2007 at 07:42 PM
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p.36 #4 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Wow this does not sound good!


Sep 20, 2007 at 07:50 PM
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p.36 #5 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Personally I don't see how it's anything but a guess. I have a B.S.E.E. and I don't see how you could from a simple test like this whether it's hardware or software or both. Also I didn't see anything at all about making a judgement from photos. It's sounds like a pure guess based on the "sounds" the camera make in AI-Servo mode.



Sep 20, 2007 at 07:52 PM
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p.36 #6 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


bcaslis wrote:
Personally I don't see how it's anything but a guess. I have a B.S.E.E. and I don't see how you could from a simple test like this whether it's hardware or software or both. Also I didn't see anything at all about making a judgement from photos. It's sounds like a pure guess based on the "sounds" the camera make in AI-Servo mode.


Didn't you know EJ has magical hearing?

If you don't believe me ask him I'm sure he could tell you how he is more imminently qualified to make that determination than anyone else.

Jim



Sep 20, 2007 at 09:14 PM
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p.36 #7 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


bcaslis wrote:
Personally I don't see how it's anything but a guess. I have a B.S.E.E. and I don't see how you could from a simple test like this whether it's hardware or software or both. Also I didn't see anything at all about making a judgement from photos. It's sounds like a pure guess based on the "sounds" the camera make in AI-Servo mode.


Obviously, a first quick test can't be conclusive but calling it a "guess" may be a bit harsh. Perhaps the fact that he's spent almost 25 years at Intel working on similar issues has something to do with what he's saying?



Sep 20, 2007 at 09:29 PM
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p.36 #8 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I'd have to agree with Paul on this one.. EJ is a little more qualified then most people.. I for one am not pleased with his findings but it does offer hope that it can be fixed with a new part once the problem circuit is located...
Reguardless Canon is not comeing tru with a fix nor are they even saying they know what the problem is.. So that scares me still.. The other issue that has miffed is why are alll these people going to buy another camera, that they really don't want, while they are waiting for this one to be ready.?? I bet Canon sure is scared now knowing so many are going to buy a 40D or a 5D thats they were not going to buy before the problem and still buy the MIII later after the problem is fixed..



Sep 20, 2007 at 10:11 PM
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p.36 #9 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Hello everyone, here is a site with examples taken with a 1D3 and 1.1.1 installed.

www.paolopolla.com




Edited by Jeff on Sep 20, 2007 at 08:59 PM GMT



Sep 20, 2007 at 10:45 PM
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p.36 #10 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I can't look at the site yet, but what's the outcome. Did he have AF issues beforehand that 1.1.1 resolved?


Sep 20, 2007 at 10:49 PM
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p.36 #11 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I honestly hope that the firmware update will solve the problem that many seem to have had with the earlier models of the Mark III. I have no intention of implementing the firmware because "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is where I'm at, "but" my Mark III was purchased only a few weeks ago so I'm not saying that this is an across the board issue. I really truly hope that the new firmware will solve the problem for you earlier purchasers of the camera, if you have run into AF problems, because it is an amazing piece of equipment and I hope everyone who took the plunge will reap the benefits. Good luck to all on the new firmware!


Sep 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM
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p.36 #12 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Hello Whayne. In essence, in his opinion, the 1.1.1 firmware has made the cameras AF equal to the 1D2n. But he feels an upgraded version will probably be released to the public whenever that happens. regards Gary


Sep 20, 2007 at 10:59 PM
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p.36 #13 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I can't tell by looking at selected photos from someone else...only going to be able to tell when I'm using it in a real life game situation where AF is critical and used over time.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:01 PM
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p.36 #14 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Seriously, I've used a Mark II for 4 years, and unless the Mark II is really subservient to the Mark II N in AF, then my credibility is at least equivalent to others who have used the Mark II or N. The Mark III far excels the Mark II in AF if the camera is working as it was designed to be used. I have gotten shots with the Mark III that I have tried to get with the Mark II for 4 years, and in one evening I got shots that I only dreamed about, head on "in focus" shots of quick flying songbirds. This may seem slightly meaningless to you, but I have been trying to get such shots for 4 years, and I got 3 of them tonight with the Mark III. That, to me, is meaningful.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:10 PM
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p.36 #15 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


And, you cannot bake an out of focus flying bird into an effective, with detail, in focus flying bird, especially when it comes to the quick ones, the songbirds, the ones who fly past you so fast that it's like a wink, and then they are gone.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:13 PM
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p.36 #16 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I would not expect pictures to look any different after 1.1.1 is installed. This proves nothing.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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p.36 #17 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I think it is pretty well clear that some cameras do not have an AF issue and some do...mine does and I've been shooting 1D bodies of various sorts for a long time. But really, this has been hashed over so many times in so many threads, some VERY long, on the site that hopefully this won't turn into another.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:20 PM
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p.36 #18 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Jeff wrote:
Ditto, Shane. Plus, an oversharpened 640-pixel web reduction just ain't gonna do it for critically evaluating sharpness nor AF performance.


Yes, and it took a lot of shooting for to draw any conclusion so I don't expect to know instantly...although we can hope.



Sep 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM
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p.36 #19 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


nathanlake wrote:
I would not expect pictures to look any different after 1.1.1 is installed. This proves nothing.


Good point.



Sep 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM
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p.36 #20 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


nathan, that makes no sense. A firmware update comes about for one reason or other, perhaps it won't change "your" experience but it may well change another persons experience radically, depending on factors that neither you nor I can comment on, since it's a bit technical.


Sep 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM
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