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1D MkIII Poll #3: Does yours have AF issues?
<#505xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 27 2%
#505xxx - 509xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 9 1%
#510xxx - 514xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 20 1%
#515xxx - 519xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 15 1%
#520xxx - 524xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 22 2%
#525xxx - 529xxx: YES, it has AF issues PollPollPoll 16 1%
>#530xxx: YES, it has AF issues ------------------------- PollPollPoll 10 1%
<#505xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 20 1%
#505xxx - 509xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 18 1%
#510xxx - 514xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 23 2%
#515xxx - 519xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 25 2%
#520xxx - 524xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 34 2%
#525xxx - 529xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 20 1%
>#530xxx: NO, it works as advertised PollPollPoll 23 2%
[I don't plan on owning a MkIII; show me the results.] PollPollPoll 1104 80%
Total Votes 1386 100%

Archive 2007 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?

  
 
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p.2 #1 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Yep, is also a yes vote in "#510xxx - 514xxx: YES, it has AF issues"


Aug 11, 2007 at 05:30 PM
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p.2 #2 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Very interesting spread of good vs. bad. Some serial numbers appear to be better than others. So far 30 good and 16 bad. That is different from the previous poll that was going 50/50.

Jim



Aug 11, 2007 at 05:54 PM
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p.2 #3 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I have switched off my AF expansion and set AF speed to moderate slow and itr seems to work better or rather not that jumpy of course with FW 1.1.0.


Wickedfn4u wrote:
I have had mine for about 2 months now using mainly for soccer. The only thing I noticed when I was in Europe was it jumping to the banner ads that line the field if the subject was close to them and I was at a distance. This did not happen all the time and I had it on center + the two expansions L&R. Other than that it is fast but I wonder if the expansion is causing it. My next tournament I am turning it off and actually going to factory defaults to see how it does.

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Aug 11, 2007 at 10:11 PM
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p.2 #4 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


What if I plan on eventually getting a 1D Mark III but I still want to see the results?


Aug 12, 2007 at 03:38 AM
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p.2 #5 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Well, Jeff correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say if you don't plan on getting one in the immediate future — let's say the next few months — then go ahead and feel free to "just see the results." But if you think you'll be getting one soon enough that this poll might still be active and you'd want to contribute to it, then just content yourself with the periodic reports of the results here in the thread. Like this one, which is current as of the time of this post:
http://www.toulme.net/misc/FMMk3PollSS070812.jpg

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Aug 12, 2007 at 08:52 AM
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p.2 #6 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Thanks for the charts. It's very easy to see the results this way.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Aug 12, 2007 at 08:58 AM
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p.2 #7 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Hmmm.. Interesting! Except for the 525xxx - 529xxx range; there are more cameras with no AF problems than those with. But it was "reported" that those with 525xxx & above are supposedly those without AF problems but the poll indicates its those 515xxx - 519xxx that are performing as it should!

Cheers!



Aug 12, 2007 at 09:24 AM
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p.2 #8 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I bought mine end of July, serienumber: 525xxx
Today it's the first warm day with blue sky, so I went out and for AI-servo testing.
I went to a viaduct and tracked cars with a speed of 80km (it's a controlled traverse)
In every serie of lets say 15 pictures I had several OOF pictures
I found out I have one shot AF problems as well.


Edited by Chris Dees on Aug 12, 2007 at 05:47 PM GMT (Reason: Poor English corrected )



Aug 12, 2007 at 10:54 AM
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p.2 #9 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I'm confused by that Chris. Are you saying you do have problems with that unit or you do not? And did you vote?

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Aug 12, 2007 at 11:00 AM
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p.2 #10 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Nill Toulme wrote:
I'm confused by that Chris. Are you saying you do have problems with that unit or you do not? And did you vote?


I corrected the text, I do have problems, in AI-servo and one-shot.

I voted wrong, but you can't correct it.

It's not my day.



Aug 12, 2007 at 11:50 AM
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p.2 #11 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Jeff, thanks for this poll and Nill thanks for the graphics.

I think we don't have enough data to make firm conclusions, but it seems that the problem isn't solved after a certain serial number.

I was planning to buy the mkIII in September or so, but I wait a bit more.




Aug 12, 2007 at 12:33 PM
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p.2 #12 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


What is with Canon lately? Obviously there is SOMETHING wrong here. At least to a degree. There wouldn't be this much discussion (not to mention the firmware update that acknowledges the issue) about AF problems on the MarkIII if they didn't exist.

It seems that almost every product the company releases lately has some sort of problem. Every day I just wish that they would admit to, and fix the AF problems of the 50mm f/1.2L. Oh how I would love to have that lens (in proper working order, worth it's price tag).



Aug 12, 2007 at 08:02 PM
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p.2 #13 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


James Cripps wrote:
What is with Canon lately? Obviously there is SOMETHING wrong here. At least to a degree. There wouldn't be this much discussion (not to mention the firmware update that acknowledges the issue) about AF problems on the MarkIII if they didn't exist.
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I agree completely about the smoke-there's-fire aspect of the discussion of this issue, but as to the firmware, in fairness, I believe there have been AF firmware updates of one sort or another for every 1-series. I know there were at least three for the 1DsMkII because I just bought one and updated it.

They're complex devices with complex programming. We're lucky they *can* tweak them in firmware.

None of which is to belittle the problems with the Mark III, which more and more seem perhaps to be of a different order.

And all of which is OT for this thread, which Jeff has asked us to limit to reporting of actual experience with problems on this particular camera.

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Aug 12, 2007 at 08:26 PM
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p.2 #14 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Maybe the Canon's "prototype-less core technology" is to be blamed for all these AF problems

http://www.canon.com/technology/canon_tech/explanation/cae.html



Aug 12, 2007 at 09:59 PM
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p.2 #15 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


I just had a router bite the dust so my site will be down for a few days. That means I won't be able to post/host the update charts again till it's fixed, but here's the current tally in text form:

<#505xxx: YES, it has AF issues 8 10%
#505xxx - 509xxx: YES, it has AF issues 3 4%
#510xxx - 514xxx: YES, it has AF issues 7 8%
#515xxx - 519xxx: YES, it has AF issues 3 4%
#520xxx - 524xxx: YES, it has AF issues 3 4%
#525xxx - 529xxx: YES, it has AF issues * 6 7%
>#530xxx: YES, it has AF issues 1 1%
Subtotal YES 31 37%

<#505xxx: NO, it works as advertised 8 10%
#505xxx - 509xxx: NO, it works as adv 5 6%
#510xxx - 514xxx: NO, it works as adv 6 7%
#515xxx - 519xxx: NO, it works as adv 13 16%
#520xxx - 524xxx: NO, it works as adv 11 13%
#525xxx - 529xxx: NO, it works as adv * 5 6%
>#530xxx: NO, it works as advertised 4 5%
Subtotal NO 52 63%

* (These two numbers adjusted to correct one miscast vote)

TOTAL SAMPLE 83 100%

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Aug 13, 2007 at 03:01 PM
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p.2 #16 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Canon 10D wrote:
Maybe the Canon's "prototype-less core technology" is to be blamed for all these AF problems

http://www.canon.com/technology/canon_tech/explanation/cae.html



There does seem to be something different about Canon's recent testing methods (apologies if this has already been covered--my brain is in meltdown mode due to reading off too many MKIII threads. ) Quote from Paul Pope, a UK photog, on this with a link to his posting about recent tests he did.

"Canon also needs to look at the (new) way its been testing its cameras. If their testing failed to pick up a serious flaw like this then they need to consider their testing methods a failure. The old way would have picked this up months before production began."

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=24329243



Aug 13, 2007 at 05:57 PM
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p.2 #17 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Paul B wrote:
There does seem to be something different about Canon's recent testing methods (apologies if this has already been covered--my brain is in meltdown mode due to reading off too many MKIII threads. ) Quote from Paul Pope, a UK photog, on this with a link to his posting about recent tests he did.

"Canon also needs to look at the (new) way its been testing its cameras. If their testing failed to pick up a serious flaw like this then they need to consider their testing methods a failure. The old way would have picked this up months before production
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Very minor correction, Paul Pope hails from down under.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian



Aug 14, 2007 at 12:13 AM
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p.2 #18 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Can we add another option "I plan on owning a MkIII if the issues are resolved, show me the results"


Aug 14, 2007 at 09:34 PM
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p.2 #19 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


stuuke wrote:
Can we add another option "I plan on owning a MkIII if the issues are resolved, show me the results"

X2

I am in the same posititon.. As soon as the AF issue if solved I will order mine.
But not untill I am positive I won't get a lemon.



Aug 14, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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p.2 #20 · •Poll v3.1: MkIII have AF issues?


Have you considered discussing it with your vendor? They should take it back if it was defective. I took the risk and have been very happy that I did. My camera has a little over 2000 images taken with it, and it's been stellar. Yesterday I tested fast motion (water slide) AF Servo in bright sun, temperature was 101, and my bursts were all very sharp. I was very happy with the results. Of course they were not shot with an ultra-tele at F2.8... (F4 on a 24-105L at 100mm)...

I posted this in another thread.. but here is a crop from a series just converted straight from Lightroom. No post processing. Thought it might be helpful. Just my son staying cool down here in Texas.











Aug 14, 2007 at 11:53 PM
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