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p.76 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


What will a 200/2 IS cost?


Feb 10, 2007 at 05:57 PM
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p.76 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


DaveMart wrote:
Yeah, looks like he's legit - also looks like he doesn't know what an NDA is!
I'd love to know what the Canon announcement he is talking about is.
Regards.


Not know what an NDA means got him in trouble with Leica and his pre-release posting of images from the M8.




Feb 10, 2007 at 06:03 PM
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p.76 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Erwin Puts the announcement out...

Sorry.



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:05 PM
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p.76 #4 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Met with my Canon rep today. He advised me not to wait a month before buying a 5D. He said that next month or this month, didn't matter, there's no reason to wait.

Can I trust him?

E



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:12 PM
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p.76 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


EA6B wrote:
Met with my Canon rep today. He advised me not to wait a month before buying a 5D. He said that next month or this month, didn't matter, there's no reason to wait.

Can I trust him?

E


I don't think the 5D will see an upgrade at PMA. If I had to bet, I would bet on the 30D and the 1DsMKII getting upgrades this time around.



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:16 PM
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p.76 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


With a new announcement, if true, wouldn't you think he'd get the name right? D1, D1S, then 1D & 1DS.


Feb 10, 2007 at 06:17 PM
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Mark Shaxted wrote:
With a new announcement, if true, wouldn't you think he'd get the name right? D1, D1S, then 1D & 1DS.


I'm not sure he understands what he writes some times. I am sure that proofreading is not a high priority. But he's not dumb. He is old enough and engineer enough to get spoofed by a fake press release, however.
Odd he mentioned the price of the 1D, but not the 1Ds.



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:24 PM
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p.76 #8 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Very interesting comments by Erwin... interesting writing style as well.

If what he says is true I will now have to decide on a 5D or a 1D (for a little over twice the price of the 5d) ... hmmm decisions decisions....

So we now have a pretty good rumor!!!

Vann



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:33 PM
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p.76 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


How would folks here feel about the smaller 1V body?
Fits in with the guy who said that Ann whatever her name was was using something half the size of the 1Ds, and must mean Li-on batteries - so it would mean a change for those invested in them , and some incompaiblity with the old series.
How would you feel about using a battery grip, instead of built-in?
Regards



Feb 10, 2007 at 06:56 PM
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DaveMart wrote:
How would folks here feel about the smaller 1V body?
Fits in with the guy who said that Ann whatever her name was was using something half the size of the 1Ds, and must mean Li-on batteries - so it would mean a change for those invested in them , and some incompaiblity with the old series.
How would you feel about using a battery grip, instead of built-in?
Regards

annie leibovitz (shes kindve a big deal)

and the elan 7ne series for me is proof enough you can make a comfortable battery grip



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:09 PM
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DaveMart wrote:
How would folks here feel about the smaller 1V body


I would much prefer the smaller body.

Vann



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:16 PM
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p.76 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Me thinks this Erwin dude is lost his marbles...

Err... I mean, does anyone know what problems he is referring to when he says...

"Canon seems to be quite confident that the problems with the 35mm format can be addressed and overcome."

What problems?



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:17 PM
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DynoMoHum wrote:
Err... I mean, does anyone know what problems he is referring to when he says...

"Canon seems to be quite confident that the problems with the 35mm format can be addressed and overcome."

What problems?


The problems that he is referring to is the issue of achieving acceptable resolution from 35mm sized sensors. Erwin is living in the 1990s. Perhaps he doesn't realise that these cameras will outresolve MF film images. Or perhaps he doesn't realise that 99% of photographers will never print larger than 8x12.



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:26 PM
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DynoMoHum wrote:
Me thinks this Erwin dude is lost his marbles...
Err... I mean, does anyone know what problems he is referring to when he says...
"Canon seems to be quite confident that the problems with the 35mm format can be addressed and overcome."
What problems?


some people think that going to a larger imaging area is a good way to keep the noise down when dslrs start capturing dmfb size images. i think that Erwin Puts is dissing the idea that Canon needs to stuff 645 size chip into an EOS body.



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:29 PM
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Antony wrote:
The problems that he is referring to is the issue of achieving acceptable resolution from 35mm sized sensors. Erwin is living in the 1990s. Perhaps he doesn't realise that these cameras will outresolve MF film images.


Ummm. Which cameras are you talking about. One thing is quite certain, these cameras do not out "resolve" MF film images. In fact, there is some discussion that they might not even outresolve some 35mm film (the 1Ds2 might get there). But, of course, resolution isn't everything.

Antony wrote:
Or perhaps he doesn't realise that 99% of photographers will never print larger than 8x12.


And these are the 99% that are not buying 1D's or using MF film, and might not even be using a 5D. If all you are printing is 8x12's then a 8-10mp APS sensor is all you would ever need. But so what?



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:34 PM
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Erwin Puts rebel looking for a cause? See his pronouncement about new 1D.

http://www.imx.nl/photosite/comments/c031.html

Putting the 5D Pro quality sensor in a 1V Pro quality body would give you a D2x with FF, better IQ and higher iso performance at the same price point.. Provided Digit III can do 8 or more fps with those files. Sounds plausible to me.

Also a great strategic move as Canon maintains the lead in the PJ/Sports market. Reinforces FF as the new Pro standard, forcing others further behind as they try to catch up.



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:51 PM
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p.76 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I'm starting to wonder if Canon taking the RAW mode and fast lens out of the G7 might be because they are thinking about a smaller EOS body. Of course it is the EOS lenses that are the real size issue.

I wonder if Canon would bring something out ala the Sigma, maybe with a real viewfinder. I wonder with-out a mirror box forcing the use of retro-focus lenses, how small could you get a 15-70mm lens for an APS-C sized sensor?



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:56 PM
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p.76 #18 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Rusty1 wrote:
Erwin Puts rebel looking for a cause? See his pronouncement about new 1D.

http://www.imx.nl/photosite/comments/c031.html

Putting the 5D Pro quality sensor in a 1V Pro quality body would give you a D2x with FF, better IQ and higher iso performance at the same price point.. Provided Digit III can do 8 or more fps with those files. Sounds plausible to me.

Also a great strategic move as Canon maintains the lead in the PJ/Sports market. Reinforces FF as the new Pro standard, forcing others further behind as they try to catch up.

I would have thought a lot of sports pros would be less than thrilled to find that they have lost their 1.25 crop - all the lenses thev've been workig with are going to not work the way they are used to for a start.
I've got the feeling that Erwin may have some of the info, but he is not stating all of it right, or misinterpreting.
Regards,



Feb 10, 2007 at 07:59 PM
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p.76 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


anyone who doubts that Erwin Puts has pondered the relative merits of 35mm digital spawn vs mf spawn should read http://www.imx.nl/photosite/leica/M8_6/m8_6.html which he posted on feb 8th.
he rates the Hasselblad H3D 39 Meg sensor over the Leica M8 10 Meg sensor as having a 1.2 advantage factor! and snoop around his site and read how he likes his 5d. it's free.



Feb 10, 2007 at 08:05 PM
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p.76 #20 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


If Erwin Puts review is correct then Sports Photographers will not be missing their 1.25 crop factor because the pixel size of the new 1D sensor will be exactly the same as their old one.

They're getting exactly the same shots they used to get with the old 1D IIN with some more info around the frame.

Ignacio



Feb 10, 2007 at 08:47 PM
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