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p.27 #1 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I believe it was said that the two zeros make it okay.


Jan 23, 2007 at 10:47 AM
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p.27 #2 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Last time I checked, "4" is not the same as "40" or "400".

Thread slowdown - ya, only 65 pages based on nothing. Just wait until we get an actual leak in mid to late Feb.

I predict sales of Viagra will drop significantly.



Jan 23, 2007 at 11:11 AM
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p.27 #3 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


In hopes of someone saving me the agony of scanning the 65 pages of this discussion..... can someone recap the serious, reasonable rumors of what Canon may announce as new products?




Jan 23, 2007 at 12:27 PM
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coppertop wrote:
In hopes of someone saving me the agony of scanning the 65 pages of this discussion..... can someone recap the serious, reasonable rumors of what Canon may announce as new products?



I would be glad to.



Jan 23, 2007 at 12:40 PM
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p.27 #5 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


I recapped the various opinions, rumours and suggestions from previous threads right at the start of this one, 6th post of the first page. There is little to add to that info

Well, maybe that the 1Ds Mark III will have a foveon-type sensor. Other than that, little was actually new. There have been some very insightful posts here, but that's tiny little gems in tonnes of mud.



Jan 23, 2007 at 12:48 PM
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p.27 #6 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


danmitchell wrote:
A though just occurred to me...

There has been an ongoing thread about negative associations of the number 4 in certain Asian languages, with the result being a belief that Canon would not identify a new camera model with this number - hence no "40D."

What about the existing "400D?"

Dan



I think it's just 4 that has the bad connotation because one of its pronounciations in Japanese is si (pronounced like "she") which sounds the same as the word for death. The common words for 40 and 400 are yonju and yonhyaku so there wouldn't be an issue. The pronounciation which sounds like death is only used for 4, not 40, 400, 104, or whatever.



Jan 23, 2007 at 01:02 PM
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Tentacle wrote:
Well, maybe that the 1Ds Mark III will have a foveon-type sensor.


Yes.....and ? :worried:



Jan 23, 2007 at 01:06 PM
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Peter Reesor wrote:
Yes.....and ? :worried:


What's the worry? It is a reasonable proposition, to move to a foveon-type sensor.

A bayer pattern isn't as efficient resolution wise. As the pixel density gets cranked up you get nearer and nearer to the resolving power of the lens. Moving from a bayer pattern sensor to a layered photo site sensor (which is exactly what a foveon sensor is) will postpone hitting that barrier.



Jan 23, 2007 at 01:40 PM
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p.27 #9 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


My hopes....

200-500mm f5.6L IS under $2000
400mm f5.6L IS under $1500
100-400mm IS revamped to have a ring zoom instead of push/pull for under $1800

wishful thinking....
400mm f4L (IS or not) under $2000
500-800mm f5.6L (IS or not) under $4000
Battery Grip that would not only carry the two battery, have the vertical shutter but also have a CF card reader/writer for when the primary is full. Sorta like a secondary memory card location.



Jan 23, 2007 at 01:58 PM
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coppertop wrote:
My hopes....

200-500mm f5.6L IS under $2000
400mm f5.6L IS under $1500
100-400mm IS revamped to have a ring zoom instead of push/pull for under $1800

wishful thinking....
400mm f4L (IS or not) under $2000
500-800mm f5.6L (IS or not) under $4000
Battery Grip that would not only carry the two battery, have the vertical shutter but also have a CF card reader/writer for when the primary is full. Sorta like a secondary memory card location.



I got news for you, the prices on your hopes are wishful thinking too.



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:01 PM
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p.27 #11 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Ok... sorry for this little off-topic tangent here, but what the $expletive is the problem with a push-pull mechanism?

I've worked with an old Panagor 70-210 lens (on a Canon AE-1 Program) and that was one ring to zoom and focus! No problem at all. So what gives?



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:04 PM
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p.27 #12 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Now a 500-800 f5.6L with next generation (5 stop) IS for $4000 - now that's what dreams are made of. With the 25MP EOS 50d ...

I'd settle for a 200-400 F5.6L IS with wicked IQ (or even a 400 f5.6L with IS for < $1500)



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:20 PM
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p.27 #13 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


ejpeiker wrote:
The name of the EF 400 f/4 DO IS isn't even written right. they left out the DO part in the text... What an incredibly stupid hoax.


I am not saying that the rumor is true, but come on, if you are dismissing it because they have a designation error in their web site (esp. on a page that's not officially "open" yet), you really need to get a better argument. Show me a company that has no typos / omissions / simply wrong facts on their own product pages.



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:28 PM
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p.27 #14 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Tentacle wrote:
Ok... sorry for this little off-topic tangent here, but what the $expletive is the problem with a push-pull mechanism?


Nothing on principle. The main reason I don't like it is that I use all my zooms' parfocal property: zoom in to focus, hold, zoom out to shoot. Now this is darn near impossible to do with a push pull. Not that I think that it would be very easy to make a 28-300 twist zoom



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:32 PM
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stanj wrote:
I am not saying that the rumor is true, but come on, if you are dismissing it because they have a designation error in their web site (esp. on a page that's not officially "open" yet), you really need to get a better argument. Show me a company that has no typos / omissions / simply wrong facts on their own product pages.


I counted at least six errors on that bogus page. Canon does not put out short pages with six errors.

The perpetrator admitted in this very thread that it was a hoax. Give it a rest, folks!



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:38 PM
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stanj wrote:
Nothing on principle. The main reason I don't like it is that I use all my zooms' parfocal property: zoom in to focus, hold, zoom out to shoot. Now this is darn near impossible to do with a push pull. Not that I think that it would be very easy to make a 28-300 twist zoom


That's only a theoretical consideration in this case. Most of the 100-400 users are having the lens on 400mm when stalking birds/animals, and the zoom stays locked there unless something very unexpected crops up.
Also, I'd bet you a nickel to a doughnut that many seasoned 100-400 users like its telescoping zoom action. Sure like hell it's fast when you need it to be. It clearly feels more natural to me than the 70-200 zoom action, (I have not tried Nikkor 200-400 f/4 yet )



Jan 23, 2007 at 02:46 PM
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p.27 #17 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


[Tentacle wrote:
Well, maybe that the 1Ds Mark III will have a foveon-type sensor.


Yep, I already said I wouldn't mind that. I think it's the way of the future once the technology is tweaked and refined. Maybe Canon can be the ones who do that.

But I'd prefer it in a 1.6 so I can afford one.




Jan 23, 2007 at 04:03 PM
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RikWriter wrote:
I got news for you, the prices on your hopes are wishful thinking too.


One can always hope.....



Jan 23, 2007 at 04:30 PM
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p.27 #19 · 'Un-Official' pre-PMA Rumor Thread


Peter Reesor wrote:
That's only a theoretical consideration in this case. Most of the 100-400 users are having the lens on 400mm when stalking birds/animals, and the zoom stays locked there unless something very unexpected crops up.


Actually it's not a theoretical consideration. I have the 28-300 and very rarely use it at 300, so for me this is an actual problem every time I use it. The question was phrased "against push-pull zooms", not "against the 100-400 zoom".



Jan 23, 2007 at 04:41 PM
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stanj wrote:
Actually it's not a theoretical consideration. I have the 28-300 and very rarely use it at 300, so for me this is an actual problem every time I use it. The question was phrased "against push-pull zooms", not "against the 100-400 zoom".


Gotcha.



Jan 23, 2007 at 05:35 PM
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