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p.8 #1 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


What about a rangefinder like the Leicas. Now that would be a legend!


Aug 16, 2006 at 12:45 AM
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p.8 #2 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


pcdunham wrote:
Is the 50mm f/1.2L a rumor or just wishful thinking?

Now you mentioned it - I just realised something. Canon used the term "legend" to describe its original FD 55mm f/1.2 ASP(pherical) S.S.C. standard lens when it was pioneered back in 1971, which later evolved into the New FD 50mm f/1.2L.

Of course, there was no such lens in the EOS System. In its place was the bulky (with slow AF) EF 50mm f/1.0L USM instead. This lens was discontinued even before the first EOS-1D made its global introduction!

Can it be that the new legend is not referring to a new DSLR but on a new EF-L prime lens in the form of an all-new EF 50mm f/1.2L USM? Guess we will all find out by Aug 24.

Just my 2 cents.



Aug 16, 2006 at 01:08 AM
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p.8 #3 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


lordcarl wrote:
Now you mentioned it - I just realised something. Canon used the term "legend" to describe its original FD 55mm f/1.2 ASP(pherical) S.S.C. standard lens when it was pioneered back in 1971, which later evolved into the New FD 50mm f/1.2L.

Of course, there was no such lens in the EOS System. In its place was the bulky (with slow AF) EF 50mm f/1.0L USM instead. This lens was discontinued even before the first EOS-1D made its global introduction!

Can it be that the new legend is not referring to a new DSLR but on a new EF-L prime lens
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Now thats the most likeley suggestions I've heard yet! It's the only major total gap in Canon's lens line up (L 50) so I think you might just have it :-)

Tim



Aug 16, 2006 at 02:54 AM
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p.8 #4 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I predict a Camera with 3 Direct Print buttons for added inconvienience


Aug 16, 2006 at 06:51 AM
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p.8 #5 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I predict the converse. A printer with a "direct photo" button.




Aug 16, 2006 at 07:40 AM
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p.8 #6 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


My prediction, idiot modes only, 6 to 8 MP, 2 FPS at $350. Canon also announces they are stopping production of all rebel FILM cameras keeping the 3 and 1 Series only.


Aug 16, 2006 at 07:45 AM
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p.8 #7 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Not 100% exact.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-05-25T125525Z_01_T118988_RTRUKOC_0_US-JAPAN-CANON.xml



Aug 16, 2006 at 07:50 AM
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p.8 #8 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


mfoto wrote:
This of course was the info from the mysterious missing post which led to a long thread a day or so ago. Perhaps I'm naive but this still looks very realistic (perhaps a bit too optimistic). These are not exactly main stream lenses.


The 1D hybrid is what my buddy told me he saw in Japan when he was there.
So i'm impresses to see that this info rumor listed here. It must be true



Aug 16, 2006 at 08:52 AM
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p.8 #9 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


There's a lot of "mud" flying about (or is that FUD).
Certainly Canon in 2006 has been a big disappointment so far, and I think they will continue in that vein for quite some time, I'm afraid. No nice new L lenses, no major revolutions in camera bodies ladies and gentlemen.

WHY?

Because Canon is taking a breather.. and because whatever is revolutionary and fantastic will only come out NEXT year. The 1D/V series is due for a MAJOR overhaul, not just a minor facelift, and how better to do that than wait just one more year to get everything right, and people's expectations wild with anticipation. Also, they need to decrease pixel size considerably to fit 22/24mp into a 35mm chip, and that is not done overnight, contrary to popular perception. Also, they are in no rush to do anything quickly.. Who's competing with them, besides a handful of MF back manufacturers? None of the other 35mm crowd are ready to release a FF chip yet, though I bet Sony would like to get there before Nikon does, and being it's own manufacturer of imaging chips it might just be able to as well..

Then there is the lens issue.. No major new lenses this year I'm afraid.. Why?
Well, Canon already has a huge selection out there. Also, the battle for consumers is going to be fought in the entry-level arena, and these consumers couldn't give a stuff about a 50mm f1.2 lens.. they want a zoom lens silly! And one that packs a punch, is small, great range.. We're in practical bang for buck territory here.. So no major L lenses my friends, those will be out later with the 1D reincarnation.

So Photokina, like PMA will be a terribly disappointing time for buyers of quality photographic instruments.. There will be an excellent little 350D replacement though, and that may just become my back-up camera... :-)

So long and thanks for all the fish..

PS - As I don't work for Canon or have any insider knowledge the above is pure and simple speculation, obviously.



Aug 16, 2006 at 09:26 AM
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p.8 #10 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


either your friend doesnt' know what he saw and is speculating, he works at Canon and is telling you things he shouldnt, or he doesn't know anything.

it's not like he SAW a new (un-announced) camera at Kitamura or something. I lived in Japan for two years, and was good friends with a premier Canon dealer- who was just as knowledgeable of the 5D as i was. They don't display cameras in the open before they're announced.



Aug 16, 2006 at 09:27 AM
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p.8 #11 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I really wish canon would update the 70-200 f4 with IS. That would be a big bonus to me. I don't think they are going to do it, but...


Aug 16, 2006 at 09:41 AM
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p.8 #12 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


At Photokina Canon will release something I wanted and I'll buy it They'll release something I didn't want and I won't buy it They'll release something I'm not sure why they released and I'll ignore it And lastly, they will not release something I wanted and I'll morn it That should cover all the possibilities.


Aug 16, 2006 at 10:10 AM
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p.8 #13 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Worthless...


Aug 16, 2006 at 10:16 AM
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p.8 #14 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


jd1566 wrote:
Because Canon is taking a breather..


They do this, and they'll drown.



Aug 16, 2006 at 11:14 AM
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p.8 #15 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


I just wish they'd get on with it, I don't think I can take another month or so of this And I quite enjoy the specualtion.

As long at they wait 6 months before making the 400 5.6 readily available then I'll be happy. (I just bought it and would rather not have missed out on IS for the sake of a few weeks - taken some great shots in the meantime though I guess, but you know what I mean.

I almost wish they'd do a nikon and announce products months before you can actually get them, so at least you're making an informed decision on whether to buy something cheaper now, or wait for the new product in a few weeks or months - like those picking up the 20D as filling their needs at a cheaper cost now.



Aug 16, 2006 at 11:25 AM
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p.8 #16 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Here is a good corporate success principle from the Mgmt for Dummies 0.001, stated in two ways :

(1) Once you stop climbing, you will eventually go down and crash.
(2) Once you stop swimming, you sink.....like sharks.

Thus, please do not interrupt the chant...."EF 50mm f/1.2L USM".



Aug 16, 2006 at 11:31 AM
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p.8 #17 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


EB-1 wrote:
Yeah, that would solve a lot of problems. I always wonder if Canon could design a high quality wideangle lens if the price were right, say $2500.

EB


There are others in that price and focal range that do a terrific job already (minus the AF).



Aug 16, 2006 at 11:53 AM
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p.8 #18 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


mathayde wrote:
I predict a Camera with 3 Direct Print buttons for added inconvienience


not a bad idea. Looks like a Polaroid



Aug 16, 2006 at 12:02 PM
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p.8 #19 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


mathayde wrote:
I predict a Camera with 3 Direct Print buttons for added inconvienience


A guy who has been living in Japan for a number of years provided an interesting perspective on that. His point: The Japanese public did not take up PCs in the 80s and 90s to the extent that Westerners and others did, and by the time they were interested in email, cell phones using their character-based system were more convenient.

Thus: There is a very great market in Japan for cameras that download directly into printers (and for printers that directly take memory cards).



Aug 16, 2006 at 12:13 PM
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p.8 #20 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread


Someone wrote: "Also, they need to decrease pixel size considerably to fit 22/24mp into a 35mm chip, and that is not done overnight, contrary to popular perception."

I thought that the size of the photosites on a full-frame 22MP sensor and an APS-C 8MP sensor should be about the same, in which case this would not be a pixel size issue, right? (It could be a "yield" issue, and thus a cost issue, but that should decrease over time.)

Dan



Aug 16, 2006 at 12:19 PM
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