An improved 100-400 makes sense. Sigma has been messing with Canon in that range, and Canon always seems to respond to Sigma doing good things (e.g. 17-40 as a response to Sigma 15-30EX and and 70-200/4 in response to Sigma 70-200/2.8)
If there's anything radical in the new 1 series, it may be very high usable ISO. I've seen several people misqoute the Westfall interview. He didn't say the future may bring clean ISO 6400, he said that high sensitivity may be the NATIVE ISO. So we would be talking about usable ISO at 50,000 or 100,000.
I'm not predicting this feature, just clarifying how I read that interview.
Canon marketing people are careful in what they say.
dcmiller wrote:
That would be the "concensus expected" on the high end. So even if the information is a goof or a guess it may still be accurate. I didn't read the DP thread. Is there a 1DsIII price? I expect $8000 again.
No price on 1DsIII - actually, purely my own guess would be that it will be a pretty straightforward upgrade, with no real frills or thrills - a couple of down-to-earth people have indicated that it is not something to get wildly excited about.
I doubt that Alfonso is fooling - he has been posting for around 5 years.
Of course, he may have over-interpreted something he has read or whatever, but I am reasonably confident.
That price for the 50/1.2 certainly sounds like Canon were serious when they said that they were going to get some really good glass to show off their FF to advantage.
Incidentally, it seems to me that Canonare a lot more straightforward to read than many make out - months ago in an interview in Tom's Hardware (link removed) Chuck Westfall said something like: suppose Canon were working on a new sensor, with, say 22MP....' I took that at the time as a pretty broad hint, and it seems that it will pan out.
That makes recent comments that Canon would 'like' to continue using the 1.3 altogether more exciting, not to mention the ideas in this link: http://www.dslrphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Future_DSLRs.pdf
IISO 6400 here we come!
And EVF!
Regards,
DaveMart
Native 6400 ISO Now that would really be interesting, I wonder if this would be a camera dedicated to low light situations as I'm guessing if 6400 is native then ISO 100 might suffer as a result. But I would buy another body even if it had an effective ISO setting from say 1600 -12800 because I do shoot so many low light situations...
I've spoken with someone who claims to have been a beta tester and said that main advantages are a few more megapixels, higher frame rate, buffer and large LCD.
No revolutionary improvements
I don't know if that means 22MP or 18MP etc or if the 22MP would be an altogether new camera.
mholdef wrote:
I've spoken with someone who claims to have been a beta tester and said that main advantages are a few more megapixels, higher frame rate, buffer and large LCD.
No revolutionary improvements
I don't know if that means 22MP or 18MP etc or if the 22MP would be an altogether new camera.
Hard to say
Mark
Interesting, if your source is valid then this could mean a range of things. Canon just introduced the 1Ds Mark II a short while ago, I doubt they will jump to 22MP this year (possibly next), since your source mentions a "few" more megapixels I'm guessing this may be the long awaited replacement for the 1D Mark II(n) which has been at 8MP for 2-1/2 years. So what does this mean Could be anything, but maybe a 1D Mark III with 10-11MP, 1.3x crop and maybe 10fps? Very interesting, but again, unless they've improved on high ISO and DR then I'm not going to run out and buy one because 8MP is more than sufficient for most of the work I do.
Photokina only comes around once every two years and it is the worlds premier event for everything photographic, I think just about every manufacturer wants to release something amazing because in the digital realm, 2 years is an eternity.
I'm hoping to be wowed by Canon, but I realized that I could also be very disappointed If all they do is release a 50mm f/1.2 L then I will be absolutely content...
Something else I just realized, Canon does not have an L series lens in their EF-S line do they. I'd be curious to see if they don't introduce an "L" series lens for EF-S to see if they can establish more of a professional following for their 1.6x crop bodies. If they don't produce an L lens for EF-S my guess is that Canon is content that the 1.6x crop remain in the advanced amateur class, not that pro's don't use them because I know many who do, but almost exclusively with non EF-S glass... just something to ponder since it seems that is what most of us are doing...
The title of this thread should be Photokina Speculations, but hey, it's fun to speculate because after all, if we're wrong, at least they won't stone us like they did Old Testament False Prophets
wjmeyer wrote:
Something else I just realized, Canon does not have an L series lens in their EF-S line do they. I'd be curious to see if they don't introduce an "L" series lens for EF-S to see if they can establish more of a professional following for their 1.6x crop bodies. If they don't produce an L lens for EF-S my guess is that Canon is content that the 1.6x crop remain in the advanced amateur class, not that pro's don't use them because I know many who do, but almost exclusively with non EF-S glass... just something to ponder since it seems that is what most of us are doing......Show more →
Since all L lenses fit those cameras, the question becomes what unique EF-S lenses are needed that are not covered by current L glass. (Keep in mind that and EF-S specific lens of any focal lenght and aperture is not going to be much smaller than the EF equivalent, as much of a lens' size is determined by the size of the front element, which is determined by focal length and aperture and is independent of the sensor size it is to project on.)
In particular, one reason for a lens special to EF-S is that a zoom range is inappropriate (24-70 bad, hence 17-55). Another is that a range is unavailable (16-35 not very wide, so 10-22). I think the zooms for EF-S are done for now, unless at some point Canon deems it good to follow Sigma's 50-150 with a similar product of their own, shorter than the 70-200/2.8. And they don't seem to be giving out the L designation for those lenses.
Moving to primes, telephoto Ls are covered, 85, 135, ... EF-S could use a L portrait lens (50mm /1.2 has been speculated a bit). EF-S could use an L normal (30 /1.4?). EF-S needs wide primes, a 17 /2 ? a 15? And a superwide prime, a 9mm? But, if I were going to produce, say, a 17/2 L, I'd go ahead and make it EF, no big difference in size or cost, and sell it to FF pros also.
Thinking some more, I suspect the issue that EF-S lenses cannot be appreciably smaller at the same focal length and aperture, combined with the fact that Ls are oriented at pros, lots of pros shoot FF, Canon wants lots of other pros to upgrade to their FFs, means that Canon will never produce an EF-S L prime lens.
wjmeyer wrote:
Interesting, if your source is valid then this could mean a range of things. Canon just introduced the 1Ds Mark II a short while ago, I doubt they will jump to 22MP this year (possibly next), since your source mentions a "few" more megapixels I'm guessing this may be the long awaited replacement for the 1D Mark II(n) which has been at 8MP for 2-1/2 years. So what does this mean Could be anything, but maybe a 1D Mark III with 10-11MP, 1.3x crop and maybe 10fps? Very interesting, but again, unless they've improved on high ISO and DR then I'm not going to run out and buy one because 8MP is more than sufficient for most of the work I do.
Photokina only comes around once every two years and it is the worlds premier event for everything photographic, I think just about every manufacturer wants to release something amazing because in the digital realm, 2 years is an eternity.
I'm hoping to be wowed by Canon, but I realized that I could also be very disappointed If all they do is release a 50mm f/1.2 L then I will be absolutely content......Show more →
The 1DsII came in around a year ago.
Regards,
DaveMart
I`m wondering when they will come out with another AF than the 8 years old one, which was introduced in 1998 (EOS 3)? Not that it`s bad, but far from perfect.
Stefan
KIDERAL wrote:
The 1DsII was announced September 2004.
The 50 1.0 was designed very similarly to the 85 so I would expect a 50 1.2L to be like the 85.
I think canon is having problems with throughput.. Digic III ... I don't think we will see a new fast camera soon.
I don't think Canon is having troubles with through-put. Coming from the computer industry I can tell you that moving that much data is trivial and Canon could do it any time they wanted. It is nothing new in IC design. Canon has the "know how."
Listening to Canon IR conference calls it is clear that Canon doesn't think they have any problems with the high end DSLR space. They think they can *double* their volume in this space effortlessly. That is huge. Whereas they think the P&S market is 90% saturated. I believe them on both counts.
What I think is going on is they have no meaningful competators in the 1Ds2 space. So why should they up the MP count faster than they need to? Just draw it out over the years so they can milk it and get a nice steady Y-O-Y revenue and profit growth like their investors want them to do. Things are moving up nicely for Canon. Why rock the boat?
wjmeyer wrote:
Interesting, if your source is valid then this could mean a range of things. Canon just introduced the 1Ds Mark II a short while ago, I doubt they will jump to 22MP this year (possibly next), since your source mentions a "few" more megapixels I'm guessing this may be the long awaited replacement for the 1D Mark II(n) which has been at 8MP for 2-1/2 years. So what does this mean Could be anything, but maybe a 1D Mark III with 10-11MP, 1.3x crop and maybe 10fps? Very interesting, but again, unless they've improved on high ISO and DR then I'm not going to run out and buy one because 8MP is more than sufficient for most of the work I do.
Photokina only comes around once every two years and it is the worlds premier event for everything photographic, I think just about every manufacturer wants to release something amazing because in the digital realm, 2 years is an eternity.
I'm hoping to be wowed by Canon, but I realized that I could also be very disappointed If all they do is release a 50mm f/1.2 L then I will be absolutely content......Show more →
He told me it was full frame all the way, no crop mode. He also told me that he was to be delivered this fall but that his dealer just told him the camera wouldn't be coming until later this year or even early 2007.
Now that would really be interesting, I wonder if this would be a camera dedicated to low light situations as I'm guessing if 6400 is native then ISO 100 might suffer as a result. But I would buy another body even if it had an effective ISO setting from say 1600 -12800 because I do shoot so many low light situations...