Update : - just spoke to the guy who fed me the 35D info - and I'm not trusting it! Seems his source was external to Canon, not internal - so into the rumour bin it goes! *flush*
Since we are on a rumor thread---the latest rumor I just heard is that the August 24th launch is for a new Rebel replacement - as a countermove to the Sony Alpha DSLR announcement..the 400D!
It's a week away so I'm sure we'll hear more in the next few days.
Pure speculation, - but in the Chuck Westfall interview linked by someone else in this thread there could be a hint to a low-end (3000D) camera. CW suggest a 'SLR' with no mirror (EVF instead of optical viewfinder
PCPhoto: The brightness of clarity of OLED viewfinders may
offer the possibility that there will be a shift from traditional optical
viewfinders to high-resolution electronic viewfinders (EVF).
What would this mean for camera designs?
Westfall: If you substituted an optical viewfinder with an EVF,
the size, weight and cost of the camera would come down quite a
bit. You’d be eliminating the need for a prism and a mirror, which
currently limits how small of an SLR you can make.
I admit, - I'm just guessing! But it might be what's needed to make a dirt-cheap entry level DSLR, - perhaps?
cwphoto wrote:
With the exception being the 400 f/4, none of those are white...
Coming soon ... EF 50-200mm f/2.8L IS USM and EF 500mm f/2.8 DO IS USM!!!
Soon can be as far as PMA Show 2007 (Feb) or PhotoPlus Expo 2007 (Oct)!!
DaDane wrote:
Pure speculation, - but in the Chuck Westfall interview linked by someone else in this thread there could be a hint to a low-end (3000D) camera. CW suggest a 'SLR' with no mirror (EVF instead of optical viewfinder
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I admit, - I'm just guessing! But it might be what's needed to make a dirt-cheap entry level DSLR, - perhaps?
You need one heck of a lot of processing power to run a decent rez screen at the needed fps for a DSLR instead of the lousy ones in the P & S cameras - the current state of play is that you could do it with the 1 series processing capabilities, but no way with the 350D level cameras.
You would be moving 1MP at 60fps, so this looks like a technolgy which will come in in a couple of years, not now.
Regards,
DaveMart
DaveMart wrote:
You need one heck of a lot of processing power to run a decent rez screen at the needed fps for a DSLR instead of the lousy ones in the P & S cameras - the current state of play is that you could do it with the 1 series processing capabilities, but no way with the 350D level cameras.
You would be moving 1MP at 60fps, so this looks like a technolgy which will come in in a couple of years, not now.
Regards,
DaveMart
OLED has been around for some time, but it has been plagued with reliability issues, especially with blue colours. Some manufacturers have now solved that, and creative has just released an MP3 player with a colour OLED screen. OLEDs use WAY less power than regular flat screens, and are cheaper to produce once manufacturing gets going. Also it wouldn't have to be 60fps, 30 would do fine. You wouldn' t really be able to see the difference unless panning insanely. But this camera wouldn't be out there to beat OVFs or the 1d series. It would be the cheapest consumer dSLR which would make a 30fps OLED EVF acceptable imo.
MaxiKana wrote:
OLED has been around for some time, but it has been plagued with reliability issues, especially with blue colours. Some manufacturers have now solved that, and creative has just released an MP3 player with a colour OLED screen. OLEDs use WAY less power than regular flat screens, and are cheaper to produce once manufacturing gets going. Also it wouldn't have to be 60fps, 30 would do fine. You wouldn' t really be able to see the difference unless panning insanely. But this camera wouldn't be out there to beat OVFs or the 1d series. It would be the cheapest consumer dSLR which would make a 30fps OLED EVF acceptable imo. ...Show more →
Yeah, I think I made the mistake of looking at 'what I would like to see' rather than 'what we will probably get'
How many MP do you think they would be likely to aim for in such a reduced-spec EVF?
I said 1MP - perhaps 500KP might do reasonably well?
If that is the case, then it would appear to be do-able now.
I doubt it for the 370D though, or I would imagine we would have heard some rumours.
Regards,
DaveMart
DaveMart wrote:
Yeah, I think I made the mistake of looking at 'what I would like to see' rather than 'what we will probably get'
How many MP do you think they would be likely to aim for in such a reduced-spec EVF?
I said 1MP - perhaps 500KP might do reasonably well?
If that is the case, then it would appear to be do-able now.
I doubt it for the 370D though, or I would imagine we would have heard some rumours.
Regards,
DaveMart
I don't even think 500 KP. What's the best resolution you can get for these screens now a days? Samsung have just developed what I believe is the worlds smallest VGA res colour screen (640x480 = 300 KP), and it's 5 cm across, - so I guess it might very well be less than that. And yes I do agree, - not the DSLR you would wish for!!!
The refreshrate could easily be 24 fps or perhaps even a bit lower. In cinemaes what you see (or at least used to see, before they got digital) is 24 fps.
And no, - I don't speculate on the 370. I specualte on the 3000D or whatever the name could be. An even small, lighter and most importantly cheaper DSLR.
I was pretty foolish to forget the 24-105, oh well. And I basically expanded the category of "white" to mean high end, I guess, so I included the 75-300DO, which apparently is not white - got lucky on the 400DO!
And high end should certainly also include the 17-55 IS EF-S, and maybe the 10-22 EF-S, neither of which are L or white.
DaDane wrote:
I don't even think 500 KP. What's the best resolution you can get for these screens now a days? Samsung have just developed what I believe is the worlds smallest VGA res colour screen (640x480 = 300 KP), and it's 5 cm across, - so I guess it might very well be less than that. And yes I do agree, - not the DSLR you would wish for!!!
The refreshrate could easily be 24 fps or perhaps even a bit lower. In cinemaes what you see (or at least used to see, before they got digital) is 24 fps.
And no, - I don't speculate on the 370. I specualte on the 3000D or whatever the name could be. An even small, lighter and most importantly cheaper DSLR....Show more →
That's about what KM did in the old A2 a couple of years back.
I sincerely hope Canon aim higher than that, or they willl give EVIL cameras a bad name.
Regards,
DaveMart
Not really. Your link say "a" mailing list, not "the", and it doesn't give any info about which mailing list it might be. It could be a fanboy mailing list.
You really have to analyze these rumors very critically to avoid getting taken in. These may well turn out to be true, but at this point, the DPReview post is pure rumor and NOT confirmation.
Monito wrote:
Not really. Your link say "a" mailing list, not "the", and it doesn't give any info about which mailing list it might be. It could be a fanboy mailing list.
You really have to analyze these rumors very critically to avoid getting taken in. These may well turn out to be true, but at this point, the DPReview post is pure rumor and confirmation.
Fair comment- I typed it out sloppily, but the link is there for others to make up their minds.
Alsonso has been around for ages though, so I am pretty sure he would not try to mislead, but he hasn't made it clear if that is info direct from Canon or through a distributor, and you will see that I have posted there to attempt to get him to clarify this.
Regards,
DaveMart
If a 50 1.2 comes out -- and I'm saying if until it's announed -- it's going to be interesting to see what type of lens it is. Is it going to be like a 85L, extending while focusing, slow focusing, very big and heavy (relatively). Or is it going to be more like a 35L, with internal focus, fast and quick USM, solid but not as fragile feeling, and not super heavy.
If it's the latter, I want one (IQ dependent of course), and would sign up immediately and kiss the 35L goodbye. If it's the former, well, I don't think I'm interested because that's what my 85L does already (portraits), and a better focal length for FF.
If they come up with the 50 f/1.2L, the lens is likely to:
* retail in the range $1600-1800.
* be a new design, rather than dusting off a 20 yr old design (old 85L/50L).
* maintain hi IQ from wide open onwards. Canon is a learning company.....they remember full well all reasons for the EF50 f/1.0L USM not selling like hot cakes at the time.
* shrink the used 50 f/1.0 market even further.
That would be the "concensus expected" on the high end. So even if the information is a goof or a guess it may still be accurate. I didn't read the DP thread. Is there a 1DsIII price? I expect $8000 again.
