Flowernut wrote:
I’ve seen a guy’s camera go into the water on South Georgia at start of Antarctic trip. Yve had two tripods go over and in both cases the camera fine aut lens mount damaged. Two bodies fail one in Yellowstone the other in chile. It does happen. I probably take 90 percent of my pictures with 24-105
rscheffler wrote:
There are roller backpacks. I haven't used one before and I'm guessing it's a compromise situation in that it's not an ideal roller and not an ideal (comfortable) backpack. But if you are limited by the workshop's luggage allowances, and need it to be a backpack, but other times would prefer to use a roller, this might be a solution. Otherwise, I was thinking putting the backpack in a carry-on spinner/roller suitcase, if it would fit, but then you'd run afoul of the workshop's baggage restrictions (because you'd have two suitcases). Some European airports I think still allow longterm luggage storage, so one solution, if you're flying into and out of the same airport, could be to store the extra bag there, if not cost prohibitive. Or if you're staying at the same hotel on your first and last nights, see about leaving it with them. Or just consider that roller 'disposable' once you arrive in the EU and discard or give it away and buy another one before your flight back. Or as someone else suggested, a folding luggage dolly for your existing backpack. Might be the best solution TBH.
Two non-gripped bodies, 100-500 (which is about the same size as a 70-200/2.8), 2x 24-105/4, 14-35 is pretty doable in a smallish bag, IMO. If the backpack main compartment is at least 4" deep, the 14-35 and 24-105s can stand and the bodies could be turned on their sides to each fit roughly into the space used by a lens like a 24-105. It's just the 100-500 at ~8" long that will need to lie down and will eat up a lot more space. But I would take the 100-500 over the 70-300. Not much weight and size difference but the 100-500 would be more versatile and not overlap with your main lens (24-105).
I'd only swap in the 70-200 Z with a TC in place of the 100-500 if there was some potential benefit to 200/2.8. Otherwise to save space and weight, I'd choose the 70-200/4, but giving up the TC option does concede a lot against the 100-500. IMO there could be value in the long end of the 100-500 for compressed telephoto compositions. But if it's likely to be low percentages, you might be better with the RF 100-400 as a more compact, lighter option. In your position, I'd just take the 100-500 and suffer the size/weight tradeoffs. Or bring 100-500 and 70-200/4 as a back up tele option that could have use in places like Venice when you want to wander the narrow streets with a lighter load (such as 14-35, 50/1.8, 70-200/4). Instead of a second 24-105 and/or 70-200/4 you could also consider a super zoom such as the 24-240. Probably some optical quality compromises (though it has its share of fans) but rather than a purely redundant lens that you'd probably never use, it would provide some flexibility as a one-lens solution for light outings....Show more →
The second 24-195 is purely backup. I have a 24 -240 so that’s an idea. To use a 70-200 and a multiplier it would have to be the ef lens.
rscheffler wrote:
There are roller backpacks. I haven't used one before and I'm guessing it's a compromise situation in that it's not an ideal roller and not an ideal (comfortable) backpack. But if you are limited by the workshop's luggage allowances, and need it to be a backpack, but other times would prefer to use a roller, this might be a solution. Otherwise, I was thinking putting the backpack in a carry-on spinner/roller suitcase, if it would fit, but then you'd run afoul of the workshop's baggage restrictions (because you'd have two suitcases). Some European airports I think still allow longterm luggage storage, so one solution, if you're flying into and out of the same airport, could be to store the extra bag there, if not cost prohibitive. Or if you're staying at the same hotel on your first and last nights, see about leaving it with them. Or just consider that roller 'disposable' once you arrive in the EU and discard or give it away and buy another one before your flight back. Or as someone else suggested, a folding luggage dolly for your existing backpack. Might be the best solution TBH.
Two non-gripped bodies, 100-500 (which is about the same size as a 70-200/2.8), 2x 24-105/4, 14-35 is pretty doable in a smallish bag, IMO. If the backpack main compartment is at least 4" deep, the 14-35 and 24-105s can stand and the bodies could be turned on their sides to each fit roughly into the space used by a lens like a 24-105. It's just the 100-500 at ~8" long that will need to lie down and will eat up a lot more space. But I would take the 100-500 over the 70-300. Not much weight and size difference but the 100-500 would be more versatile and not overlap with your main lens (24-105).
I'd only swap in the 70-200 Z with a TC in place of the 100-500 if there was some potential benefit to 200/2.8. Otherwise to save space and weight, I'd choose the 70-200/4, but giving up the TC option does concede a lot against the 100-500. IMO there could be value in the long end of the 100-500 for compressed telephoto compositions. But if it's likely to be low percentages, you might be better with the RF 100-400 as a more compact, lighter option. In your position, I'd just take the 100-500 and suffer the size/weight tradeoffs. Or bring 100-500 and 70-200/4 as a back up tele option that could have use in places like Venice when you want to wander the narrow streets with a lighter load (such as 14-35, 50/1.8, 70-200/4). Instead of a second 24-105 and/or 70-200/4 you could also consider a super zoom such as the 24-240. Probably some optical quality compromises (though it has its share of fans) but rather than a purely redundant lens that you'd probably never use, it would provide some flexibility as a one-lens solution for light outings....Show more →
I will try and leave stuff at hotel. Airlplane allows two checked bags to I could put baa kpck in checked bag and use think tank international as carryon then leave international and second bag at hotel
Flowernut wrote:
Wnhich airlines are best fur carrying weight limits from us to Italy
I think they are pretty much the same, at least among US carriers. (Some European and similar carriers have smaller/lighter cary-on limits.)
What may differ is what you pay to check your luggage — or in the case of some budget carriers to bring it on-board in the cabin.
No guarantees on the following, but an observation: I’ve never had carry-on weight on US airlines nor heard of it happening to anyone. But I have heard of it happening on non-US carriers. (Not to me personally.)
gdanmitchell wrote:
I think they are pretty much the same, at least among US carriers. (Some European and similar carriers have smaller/lighter cary-on limits.)
What may differ is what you pay to check your luggage — or in the case of some budget carriers to bring it on-board in the cabin.
No guarantees on the following, but an observation: I’ve never had carry-on weight on US airlines nor heard of it happening to anyone. But I have heard of it happening on non-US carriers. (Not to me personally.)
Carryon is what worries me. I don't believe any US airlines goes all the way to florence. They just code share with others. It seem KLM, Swiss Air, British Air, Air France, or some airline you never heard of becomes involved. I've had carry on problems with British Air several years ago. Any thoughts which carrier? KLM says 19lb but they didn't enforce it on my trip to Kenya but then I was flying first class.
Not recently, but in the past I have connected from Florence to Frankfurt on Lufthansa and then to the US west coast on United. You should be able to book the whole thing via United since the are both Star Alliance carriers.
Flowernut wrote:
Carryon is what worries me. I don't believe any US airlines goes all the way to florence. They just code share with others. It seem KLM, Swiss Air, British Air, Air France, or some airline you never heard of becomes involved. I've had carry on problems with British Air several years ago. Any thoughts which carrier? KLM says 19lb but they didn't enforce it on my trip to Kenya but then I was flying first class.
gdanmitchell wrote:
Not recently, but in the past I have connected from Florence to Frankfurt on Lufthansa and then to the US west coast on United. You should be able to book the whole thing via United since the are both Star Alliance carriers.
United doesn't have a weight limit but I suspect Lufthansa does. If I book through United do you think Lufthansa will let me on?
Flowernut wrote:
United doesn't have a weight limit but I suspect Lufthansa does. If I book through United do you think Lufthansa will let me on?
United checked luggage weight limit is 50 pounds for Economy, 70 pounds for first class.
United is somewhat vague about weight limits for carry-on bags. I’ve heard (both from an AI search and elsewhere) that there might be a 50 lb. limit OR that the limit is that you have to be able to lift it into the overhead bin on your own.
I have, of course, had checked luggage weighed. I’ve never had a carry-on bag weighed on United. I suspect that would only happen if you were obviously trying to stretch things…
Lufthansa definitely has different limits than United. Their carry-on bag limit is, IIRC, 10 kg or 22 lbs. I’ve never had a carry-on bag weighed on Lufthansa, but I have read that it happens. I believe they are also more restrictive on the size of under-seat bags. (Easy to search this stuff online.)
If you book a flight through United that includes a Lufthansa flight, I think that your United luggage limits apply on the connecting Lufthansa flight. I’ve done flights like that, and that’s my recollection, but I’d double-check. For example, on one flight that was United from SFO - FRA in Polaris we were allowed (but did not take) two 70 pound checked bags. Because we booked the Lufthansa connection to Paris on the same booking from United, we had the same allowance on the Lufthansa FRA - CDG flight.
(I recheck this stuff every time if I’m flirting with bag size, weight, and quantity limits, since things change. For example, I used to be able to take into the United cabin: one “carryon” bag (to place in the bin), one underseat bag, AND one additional “small personal item.” But they changed their rules and now you can only bring a total of two “items.” (You are allowed to squeeze certain items into a pocket of a jacket you are wearing, but check their regs on this.)
BTW, if you fly business you can check two bags. (For free in my case.) I’ve never taken advantage of that though, since I can’t imagine hauling that much stuff around when I travel.
Flowernut wrote:
Wnhich airlines are best fur carrying weight limits from us to Italy
Generally if you can fly direct with a US (or Canadian) carrier, you will have the most generous carry-on allowance, as it should be the same as a domestic flight (9x14x22" without weight limit - you just have to be able to lift it yourself into the overhead bin - plus a personal item). The flight back might be under the domain of the EU's carry-on regulations (not sure if those are already in place), but whether a US airline will enforce those at boarding, I'm not sure.
Flowernut wrote:
The second 24-105 is purely backup. I have a 24 -240 so that’s an idea. To use a 70-200 and a multiplier it would have to be the ef lens.
No, there is also the new RF f/2.8 Z lens, which is excellent and IMO totally eclipses all previous Canon 70-200s in respect to optical performance and overall design, though being internal zoom does not have the portability while in transit that the collapsible designs have.
gdanmitchell wrote:
I think they are pretty much the same, at least among US carriers. (Some European and similar carriers have smaller/lighter cary-on limits.)
What may differ is what you pay to check your luggage — or in the case of some budget carriers to bring it on-board in the cabin.
No guarantees on the following, but an observation: I’ve never had carry-on weight on US airlines nor heard of it happening to anyone. But I have heard of it happening on non-US carriers. (Not to me personally.)
I fly a lot in Europe and the only time I have encountered an airline checking carry on weight it was Ryanair (no surprise there). 95% of the time I bring my f-stop 55 liter backpack which is slightly above spec size wise and usually quite a bit above weight wise and it has yet to be an issue.
I do check my tripod though since they can be a little finicky about that.
I don't want to get into a situation where I have to check carry on. In us, I typically use thinktank international roll on (40lb) and a gura gearbag for under the seat (30lb?). None of it meets european airline weight limits. I had an experience in Denver once where they were asking to gate check the international with $20K of camera equipement because of no space left. Spent the night in denver.
pingflood wrote:
I fly a lot in Europe and the only time I have encountered an airline checking carry on weight it was Ryanair (no surprise there). 95% of the time I bring my f-stop 55 liter backpack which is slightly above spec size wise and usually quite a bit above weight wise and it has yet to be an issue.
I do check my tripod though since they can be a little finicky about that.
On my last trip, Lufthansa checked the weight of the carry-on luggage, and made people with overweight carry-ons (>8kg) check it.
And on my last trip (SFO-Frankfurt-Nairobi) Lufthansa didn't pay any attention to the weight of carry-ons. Mine was much more than 8g. Also more than 15kg. I think backpacks get less scrutiny than roller bags.
Flowernut wrote:
I don't want to get into a situation where I have to check carry on. In us, I typically use thinktank international roll on (40lb) and a gura gearbag for under the seat (30lb?). None of it meets european airline weight limits. I had an experience in Denver once where they were asking to gate check the international with $20K of camera equipement because of no space left. Spent the night in denver.
Was this prior to the general boarding announcement? I mean, if you are in an early boarding zone, which you can control based on the ticket you buy and the seat you choose, they should not be denying you that carry-on. If you were in one of the last two zones, or arriving late to a connecting flight, then all bets are off that you will find overhead space.
I recently flew a couple Asian airlines. One was mainstream and the other was a discount carrier. Mainstream was 7kg carry-on, IIRC and the discount was 10kg (one reason we chose it), and neither checked the weight, though both tagged the bags. At the mainstream check-in the clerk was a little grumbly that the checked bag was one pound over but still let it slide. TBH, the worst check-in experience is with the automated systems because you can be a fraction over and it won't take the bag. You can't argue/haggle with a machine and the airlines certainly know this.
kylebarendrick wrote:
And on my last trip (SFO-Frankfurt-Nairobi) Lufthansa didn't pay any attention to the weight of carry-ons. Mine was much more than 8g. Also more than 15kg. I think backpacks get less scrutiny than roller bags.
Bottom line with the stated carryon weight limits, the airlines can check the weights at any time. It’s up to you how you handle that one time the airlines decides to weigh carryons. I always ensure my carryon weight is within the published weight limits of all flights on my agenda.
I have gone through two flights where carryon luggage was weighed.
chez wrote:
Bottom line with the stated carryon weight limits, the airlines can check the weights at any time. It’s up to you how you handle that one time the airlines decides to weigh carryons. I always ensure my carryon weight is within the published weight limits of all flights on my agenda.
I have gone through two flights where carryon luggage was weighed.
If you do online check in and then handle checked luggage at the kiosk you often won’t interact with any humans until you are boarding the plane. It seems unlikely they would attempt to check it at that point. Obviously not applicable to every flight but that’s what I generally do if possible.
