p.5 #3 · I Don't Understand the Sony RX10 V Release
Malka_1 wrote:
In regards to the original question - I was that user of the camera 18 months ago. I knew very little about photography but was getting frustrated with my iPhone consistently outperforming my super-zoom point and shoot (so why did I shlep it on all the hikes??), and was looking for an upgrade. In retrospective, it was part operator error, but the other part was the same size sensor and sub-par optics against idiot-proof post-processing of the phone.
With a bit of research, RX10 IV was the logical next step. An interchangeable lens camera was too much of a leap for someone who did not know what aperture was. It was a solid basic photography tool in and of itself, plus the perfect instrument for running up the many learning curves of serious photography without the additional complexity of lens options.
I did beat my iPhone, esp. now that post-processing is rewriting reality more and more with each update.
As an aside, I tried Lumix DC-FZ1000M2, the cheaper Panasonic equivalent, early on too, and it just didn't measure up.
Within a year I pushed out to the limits of RX10 IV - single lens and the 1" sensor size. Software was getting dated but wasn't the main factor. My choices for my current camera and set of lenses were much more educated.
I can see it being a great all-rounder for those who don't need or want to push the limits, the camera being, as they call it, the "minivan" of the cameras.
Below is one of my last pictures with RX10 IV. It's as good as it got but a discerning eye would notice it's a bit soft. ...Show more →
I thnk that it a good description of the role this sort of camera plays for many developing photographers.
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lsquare wrote:
It's called inflation.
Golly. Thanks. Never heard of it. Perhaps you can explain…
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Some other guy helpfully enlightens us that the market will determine if the price is too high.
Well, golly. Good to know. I guess that means that no one can have a point of view on the price until the market “tells us?” AKA: “Shut up and get off my lawn!” ;-)
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Several things can be true, regardless of how contradictory they might seem to partisans:
1. The price may “seem” to high to a number of folks.
2. The camera may or may not sell well at that price. We’ll see.
3. Cameras like this one have a place and are popular among and useful to certain categories of buyers.
p.5 #4 · I Don't Understand the Sony RX10 V Release
Fourteen years ago, I bought the newly released RX100 with the 1" sensor. When I received it, it seemed like a great addition to my kit, with the pocket ability - a camera I could always have with me. I sold it several months later.
That 1" sensor was horribly noisy in low-light and the dynamic range of the sensor was so low, I often had to shoot exposure bracketed shots to process as HDR to obtain reasonable results. That was way too arduous of a process for me. Smartphones, with their tiny sensor have a similar DR challenge, but their computational processing automatically incorporates HDR and multiple images to overcome noise.
IMHO, the primary Achilles Heal of the new superzoom is the dynamic range problem. Fortunately, there will likely be a lot of folks that will be completely happy with it... but not picky folks like myself. I could, however, see me getting one for my technically challenged, and far less demanding, wife.
p.5 #5 · I Don't Understand the Sony RX10 V Release
When you are nearing 80 years old, hiking with a big lens, and the camera limits how far you can hike, the RX10 series is a Godsend. Just as I trade off carrying the 600 f4 and its superb clarity with carrying a lighter zoom because it allows me to be more mobile. It is nice to have lots of options for camera gear. We don't all need to shoot with 100 MP medium format gear.
p.5 #6 · I Don't Understand the Sony RX10 V Release
mogul wrote:
When you are nearing 80 years old, hiking with a big lens, and the camera limits how far you can hike, the RX10 series is a Godsend. Just as I trade off carrying the 600 f4 and its superb clarity with carrying a lighter zoom because it allows me to be more mobile. It is nice to have lots of options for camera gear. We don't all need to shoot with 100 MP medium format gear.
I'm 79 (closing-in on 80) and I hear ya!! I sold my 200-600mm and shoot with the 300mm f2.8 with converters, mainly to lighten the load by a few hundred grams. It wasn't that long ago when those grams would not have mattered.
If, in the future, if I need to lighten further, I'll probably go with the Micro 4/3's route.
p.5 #8 · I Don't Understand the Sony RX10 V Release
With that sensor speed, bracketed shots are very viable in most situations. In fact with all sorts of processing options available today, and media being digital display for most, this camera makes lot of sense, For me, my full frame gear stays home almost always when I travel, for the last few years I have not been photographing much and this may help.
I am not at all worried about IQ penalty, I have shot with 1" before. For me the choice is between not shooting and shooting some.
InFocus2014 wrote:
Fourteen years ago, I bought the newly released RX100 with the 1" sensor. When I received it, it seemed like a great addition to my kit, with the pocket ability - a camera I could always have with me. I sold it several months later.
That 1" sensor was horribly noisy in low-light and the dynamic range of the sensor was so low, I often had to shoot exposure bracketed shots to process as HDR to obtain reasonable results. That was way too arduous of a process for me. Smartphones, with their tiny sensor have a similar DR challenge, but their computational processing automatically incorporates HDR and multiple images to overcome noise.
IMHO, the primary Achilles Heal of the new superzoom is the dynamic range problem. Fortunately, there will likely be a lot of folks that will be completely happy with it... but not picky folks like myself. I could, however, see me getting one for my technically challenged, and far less demanding, wife.
