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p.4 #1 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


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How do the better L-series, EF-mount lenses compare to their RF-mount equivalents? For instance, the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L EF IS II USM Lens was highly praised. Is the RF-mount version as good?


In most cases, RF lenses are a little better when you're looking at direct equivalents. In some cases, a LOT better. The 70-200mm lenses are generally on-par with the v. III EF version, with the Z model in RF perhaps being a bit better. The RF 24-105mm f/4L is better than the EF model.

In the ultra-wide space, the 16-35mm f/4L is fairly similar to the 14-35mm f/4L, with the 14-35mm maybe being a touch better in the overlapping range. The 16-35mm f/2.8L III and the RF 15-35mm f/2.8L are largely identical optically.

The primes are almost all significantly better in the optics department on the RF side when you're comparing like for like, if you consider 'better' as sharper, with lower CA and cleaner bokeh. But in any case, you can use both EF and RF glass on any R body with ease, and in most cases the EF glass performs better on RF than on an EF body. I have the EF 85mm f/1.2L II, and it's absolutely brilliant on RF, because it nails focus every time (plus stabilization)



Sep 14, 2026 at 02:31 PM
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p.4 #2 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


reviving this thread a bit as I couldn't find anything otherwise super relevant for this question. I recently picked up a 5d iii on a whim off eBay along with the 40 2.8 for cheap locally here. I have never had a DSLR (or a Canon for that matter) and have always been in mirrorless so I wanted to try one to see how they work.

I cannot believe how fun they are and I'm not sure what it is about it but I can't stop using the 5D now. It's massive but I want to bring it everywhere. I LOVE using the optical vf and find myself feeling more connected to my photos than when I use my other Nikon Z or m43 gear. The colors in my raw files sooc are amazing! I think my infatuation right now is partially the files and colors, but also the tactile experience using an optical vf and just seeing the world through that rather than through a screen.


A couple of questions:
1) are there any must-try primes for the EF mount? I really like the 40 2.8 but wouldn't mind getting one faster prime, either 35 or 50mm probably.

2) do the Canon RF bodies produce similar files to the EF bodies? I really am loving the standard colors out of this thing, not sure yet what exactly it is about them and I'm trying to figure out it out as I go along. Just wondering if it's some Canon sensor magic or just the body/lens combo I am using right now. The files are sharp and require hardly any pp. I actually turn off lens correction in LR for the 40 2.8 as I am enjoying the bit of distortion and vignetting it produces.

Anyways, here is a random fall photo I took the other day:

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Oct 15, 2026 at 06:05 PM
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p.4 #3 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


Dr_Fishy wrote:
reviving this thread a bit as I couldn't find anything otherwise super relevant for this question. I recently picked up a 5d iii on a whim off eBay along with the 40 2.8 for cheap locally here. I have never had a DSLR (or a Canon for that matter) and have always been in mirrorless so I wanted to try one to see how they work.

I cannot believe how fun they are and I'm not sure what it is about it but I can't stop using the 5D now. It's massive but I want to bring it everywhere. I
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I really like the EF 35 2.0 IS USM on my 5D MK IV: sharp, has stabilization and AF is surefooted compared to my RF 35 1.8 Macro IS STM. Close to L image quality but smaller and an easy carry. The EF 35 2.0 IS USM also looks good with the LR lens profile disabled. The EF 200 2.8L USM (original or II) is another gem and is reasonably affordable. It doesn't need a lens profile either. Some people like the EF 50 1.8 STM but it's only so-so, and really needs to be stopped down to at least f/2.8 to be reasonably sharp (F4 to get rid of coma if you're into nightscapes).




Oct 15, 2026 at 10:22 PM
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I really like the EF 35 2.0 IS USM on my 5D MK IV: sharp, has stabilization and AF is surefooted compared to my RF 35 1.8 Macro IS STM. Close to L image quality but smaller and an easy carry. The EF 35 2.0 IS USM also looks good with the LR lens profile disabled. The EF 200 2.8L USM (original or II) is another gem and is reasonably affordable. It doesn't need a lens profile either. Some people like the EF 50 1.8 STM but it's only so-so, and really needs to be stopped down to at least
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There's a charm that comes from optically flawed lenses shot wide open, which is why I've enjoyed using older lenses like the 28mm f/1.8 or 20mm f/2.8. It's not everyone's cup of tea, I know, but that's how I roll.

It's also why I'm OK with older lenses, like the EF 17-35 f/2.8L. I know all UWA L zooms that came after have better optics (the original 16-35 is a wash, tho), but it really doesn't prevent me from getting the shot.



Oct 19, 2026 at 08:26 AM
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I hava a R5II, but during the week-end I shot a golf tournament. 5D4 is the default body for golf in my case. One battery lasted all day and we're talking 8 year old batteries here. Superb grip, large buttons, heat, rain or cold it just didn't matter. Will never sell the 5D4.


Oct 19, 2026 at 09:25 AM
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A lot of the magic is in the Adobe Standard DCP color profile for the 5DMIII. It's quite punchy and there is a lot of photogs that won't drop that camera for wedding work due to the colors specifically. Fortunately you can model other cameras to have the same color rendering with other cameras if you get hands-on enough with profile designing.


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My pair of 5D Mark IV cameras are still in use, largely for macro photography. Among SLR/DSLR macro lenses, the EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS was probably the best ever made, considering the weather-sealing, AF speed, quality and level of stabilization, and AF accuracy. With this lens on a 5D Mark IV, I have zero complaints, whatsoever, so, am wondering what all the fuss is about, regarding the R-series cameras.

True, the Nikon D850 became a peak DSLR, and, because I shifted toward Nikon DSLRs, in the 2015 to 2018 time frame, so that I could share a common pool of high-end Nikon lenses with my wife, but, well, for macro shooting, let’s just say that my wife still gets envious when we are out shooting on “moth nights*.” I have a D850, but, seem to use a 5D IV more often. My D850 seems to have become a niche camera, used almost exclusively with one lens, the remarkable Nikkor AF-S 28mm f/1.4E, with the camera set to 4:5 crop.

My wife usually uses her D850 with the Micro-Nikkor AF-S 105mm f/2.8G VR, which is how I know that she struggles when my 5D IV and 100mm Macro L are gettin’ it done. She is the senior photographer, by far, with plenty of night-time and close-range/macro experience, dating from the mid-Nineties. (I finally started using DSLRs in 2010. My prior experience was with film point-and-shoot cameras.)

I actually did side-step into mirrorlessness, first with an EOS M3, though it was drowned by a flood event in 2017. EF-to-mirror-deprived system does not intimidate me, either, as my favored lenses on the EOS M3 were EF, using the EF-to-M adapter. So, it is not that I have anything against R-series cameras. If I need higher resolution, well, that is what my 5Ds R is for.

After my EOS M3 was drowned, I “replaced “ it with a different M, the Leica M10, in A[ril 2018. Yes, here is another reason I have not bought any EOS R cameras. Mirrorlessness meets EVF-less-ness.

Then, I bought a Nikon ZR, in August 2026. We had bought my wife a Z6 in late 2018, when the Z6/Z7 were launched. I was in no hurry to add a Z. More EVF-less-ness! My ZR has amazing low-light AF, but, unless I missed it, no internal GPS, which is desirable to firmly document the location of insects, in their native habitat. I may try the ZR for night-time video, but the priority will be still images of the insects.

Our next “Moth Nights” will be in early November, after she is finished working the election. My pair of 5D IV cameras will be there!

*Mothing is a serious endeavor. Specialized wavelengths of light are use to lure night-flying insects. The goal is to post the images, on sites such as iNaturalist. This is field work, if done ethically. While anyone can participate, the most serious tend to become certified, such a Texas Master Naturalists, which my wife achieved, and has to perform ongoing work to remain current.



Oct 20, 2026 at 09:30 AM
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p.4 #8 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


My older DSLRs do not eat much. Not only do I still have my 5D Mark IV cameras, bought in 2018 and 2024, I still have my 40D, which I bought pre-owned, in October 2010, soon after realizing that the Digital Rebel XTi/400D was too small for my hands, and that I preferred the “semi-pro” controls/buttons. I still have my first 7D, too, which was my first DSLR camera bought new, rather than pre-owned.

The borrowed, “household” XTi with which I started, was passed to my sister-in-law. A second XTi, which I had bought pre-owned, in order to have a “pair,” was traded at a local camera store. My major reason for starting to use DSLRs was for crime scene photography, while on duty, therefore the desire for the second camera body. In 2014, when I upgraded to a pair of the 7D Mark II, I traded one of my 7D cameras for store credit. Lenses, on the other hand, have tended to get traded, if unused for extended periods of time. Many of my lenses were bought pre-owned, so, could be traded or sold with minimal loss.

Hurricane Harvey, in 2017, did put some flood water into our house. Things stored in boxes, at floor level, were damaged. My Canon EOS M3 met its fate, this way. Nikon casualties included a D1x, D700, Df, and Coolpix A. Thankfully, all or most of my lenses, and my other cameras, were stored higher than floor level. My working pair of 7D Mark II cameras were with me, on duty, in a Pelican Case 1510. So, when I retired in 2018, my “primary team” of 7D II and 5Ds R cameras, and “reserve” 7D, remained intact.

I almost skipped the 5D Mark IV, not buying my first one until March 2018, after I had already bought my first Nikon D5. I no longer recall the major reason(s) I decided to add a 5D IV. Maybe it was an exceptionally low promotional price. Maybe it was to have the convenience of internal GPS, which the 5Ds R and Nikon D5 did not have. I had internal GPS in my 7D Mark II cameras, but even the 5Ds R had noticeably better AF than the 7D II, so, the 5D IV would offer better AF and internal GPS in one package.

Total Canon DSLRs still with me: 40D, 7D, 1D Mark II N, 5D, 5Ds R, 5D IV, 1Ds Mark III, and the second 5D IV, in order of acquisition. The pre-owned 1Ds Mark III was acquired so late, in 2018, as a simple emotional addition, for about $800, because it had been the top-tier, holy grail, $8K EOS EF camera, when I first started using modest APS-C Canon DSLRs.



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Oct 20, 2026 at 11:50 AM
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p.4 #9 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


lifef8 wrote:
A lot of the magic is in the Adobe Standard DCP color profile for the 5DMIII. It's quite punchy and there is a lot of photogs that won't drop that camera for wedding work due to the colors specifically. Fortunately you can model other cameras to have the same color rendering with other cameras if you get hands-on enough with profile designing.


Interesting - I certainly find when importing the files into LR the colors just look great 90% of the time. I have not tried any other editing software so I am not sure, and have not really used JPEGs in the 5diii either.



Oct 21, 2026 at 09:20 AM
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p.4 #10 · May I say that I miss my 5D MK 4


If you're importing raws into LR without setting your own import defaults then what you're seeing is Adobe's own colour profile, which they tweak every now and then for new generations of cameras, typically to bump up saturation and highlight contrast as newer cameras gain more range.
Scroll up to the top of the Develop module and look for where it says 'profile' just above the exposure slider. Click on the four boxes to the right of that and you'll see all the available colour profiles for your camera. None of them are strictly from Canon, though Adobe have tried to recreate Canon's own profiles and they get very, very close.
If you ever want to see the 'true' colour of your 5D3, use Canon's Digital Photo Professional software (it's free!) and set a raw file to the Neutral profile, or simply go into your camera's menu and set the 'Picture Style' to Neutral. The Neutral profile is a true neutral (e.g. red channel is made up of 100% red information and nothing else added or removed, ditto for blue and green channels), so that's the actual colour your 5D3 is seeing.
Also bear in mind that the colour you get will depend a bit on the lens you use. Most lenses these days lean slightly blue or green, while older lenses tended to lean slightly orange or magenta. Even saturation can change with different lenses. Truly neutral lenses are rare, and in fact the much-maligned Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 (and its FD predecessor) is one of the few which can be considered a really unbiased reference lens.

Anyway. I missed my 5DSR. I love having the high resolution to crop or downsample, and my R5 can do everything I need, but I miss the optical viewfinder. The price on 5DSs hasn't shifted for a while here, though, so when a 6D2 came up used cheap in the local shop, I got that instead. It's certainly not as technically competent as the R5, but I do enjoy using it more. It may not be a workhorse camera any more (though I do know a couple of pros in the area still using the 6D2, 1DX, 5DSR, 5D4, and 5D3), but for when I am just shooting for my own enjoyment, I'm mostly picking up the 6D2 now. It's simply nicer to hold, nicer to use, and nicer to look through.



Oct 26, 2026 at 11:37 AM
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I just sold my 5DSR to Danpbphoto. After using it for a couple of weeks, I realized it was too much camera for me. Anything over 200mm was slightly soft. I also realized that I don't need 60MP RAW files. My 5D2 is what I use now for everyday shooting. My RP, R100 & RF 600 & 800 f/11's are for moon shots.




  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    135mm    f/2.0    1/250s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    135mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    135mm    f/2.0    1/500s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS R100    RF600mm F11 IS STM lens    600mm    f/11.0    1/160s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 29, 2026 at 07:05 PM
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jgoetz4 wrote:
I just sold my 5DSR to Danpbphoto. After using it for a couple of weeks, I realized it was too much camera for me. Anything over 200mm was slightly soft. I also realized that I don't need 60MP RAW files. My 5D2 is what I use now for everyday shooting. My RP, R100 & RF 600 & 800 f/11's are for moon shots.


Gosh, I loved the 5DsR and used it for most everything until the 5D IV arrived, but still quite a lot.
It is very sharp, more than the R5 and R5 II for sure, so you need good lenses. At the time I realized the value of the 500/4 IS II over the original 500/4 IS at 50MP is especially noticeable with a TC. The IS II and 1.4x III is still a very sharp combo today. Soft results with sharp lenses at longer focal lengths are usually either bad air and/or image vibration issues. The 5DsR typically benefits from AF calibration with longer lenses. The 100-400 II is a special case and I had to work out the settings per lens a bit differently. Some people probably did not have a good experience. I sure don't miss that AF fine tune stuff!

EBH



Oct 29, 2026 at 11:35 PM
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