Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for...
p.2 #1Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Is returning the camera for a refund an option? I love my a7C II, but I sure wouldn’t want to live with it if I hated the ergonomics. A grip might help, but maybe not.
Jun 14, 2026 at 04:59 PM
p.2 #2Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Smallrig grip with the airtag slot is the GOAT. Love my A7CII after installing it!
Jun 14, 2026 at 06:12 PM
p.2 #3Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Joeydgraffix wrote:
Anyone here have a grip on the a7cii camera to help with holding it? After buying a Nikon Z30 for my nephew I fell in love with the size of a small camera and smaller lenses..finally decided to get a sony for the autofocus,but it is the worst camera I've ever had when it comes to holding it. My 50s ii + Mitakon 65 didn't cause this type of hand strain. 10 minutes and my hands are killing me today as they were yesterday.
Maybe I'll get used to it but has anyone had this problem and did getting a...Show more →
One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?
Anyone here have a grip on the a7cii camera to help with holding it? After buying a Nikon Z30 for my nephew I fell in love with the size of a small camera and smaller lenses..finally decided to get a sony for the autofocus,but it is the worst camera I've ever had when it comes to holding it. My 50s ii + Mitakon 65 didn't cause this type of hand strain. 10 minutes and my hands are killing me today as they were yesterday.
Maybe I'll get used to it but has anyone had this problem and did getting a...Show more →
One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?
Jun 14, 2026 at 07:45 PM
p.2 #4Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
chiron wrote:
Maybe I'll get used to it but has anyone had this problem and did getting a grip help? The lens I had is light too, its the sony 50mm f2.5g lens. One of the reasons I got rid of my Fuji 50s ii was being tired of the weight of it, but I never thought that this camera would be much worse. Same goes for ergonomics with the buttons. Maybe I just need to get used to it since it's all new to me, but right off the bat it wasn't like the Fuji where everything made sense with the buttons and even the Nikon z30 is better.
Kinda wondering if I made a mistake buying this or if I just need to give it more time. I would have bought a Z30 for myself but the autofocus is what turned me off from buying it for myself.
On the positive side I do like that the sony has somewhat of this surreal/dreamy effect look which I never got with the Fuji/Canon/Nikon. So thats cool.One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?
There is a good chance a7r will need a bottom plate too. Grip itself does not add anything to the perceived size of the camera unless you have really tiny lens!
Joeydgraffix wrote
Anyone here have a grip on the a7cii camera to help with holding it? After buying a Nikon Z30 for my nephew I fell in love with the size of a small camera and smaller lenses..finally decided to get a sony for the autofocus,but it is the worst camera I've ever had when it comes to holding it. My 50s ii + Mitakon 65 didn't cause this type of hand strain. 10 minutes and my hands are killing me today as they were yesterday.Maybe I'll get used to it but has anyone had this problem and did getting a grip help? The lens I had is light too, its the sony 50mm f2.5g lens. One of the reasons I got rid of my Fuji 50s ii was being tired of the weight of it, but I never thought that this camera would be much worse. Same goes for ergonomics with the buttons. Maybe I just need to get used to it since it's all new to me, but right off the bat it wasn't like the Fuji where everything made sense with the buttons and even the Nikon z30 is better.
Kinda wondering if I made a mistake buying this or if I just need to give it more time. I would have bought a Z30 for myself but the autofocus is what turned me off from buying it for myself.
On the positive side I do like that the sony has somewhat of this surreal/dreamy effect look which I never got with the Fuji/Canon/Nikon. So thats cool.
There is a good chance a7r will need a bottom plate too. Grip itself does not add anything to the perceived size of the camera unless you have really tiny lens!
Jun 14, 2026 at 09:11 PM
p.2 #5Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
I just got an A7Cii. I bought both the grip and the thumb lever. Def improvement for my largish hands, yet the cam itself is still compact.
Jun 14, 2026 at 09:19 PM
p.2 #6Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
chiron wrote:
One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?
Because thats a totally different camera style. The a7cii was exactly what I was looking for. It just really needs a bit of a longer grip like the Nikon z30 has, its just way too small. Plus the buttons are still horrible. Tech marvel or whatever, doesn't excuse the absolutely poor button layouts. Nikon z30 managed to figure out a great button situation in the same size camera. Sony has them all oddly placed, not having the 2 rotating dials pushing in was a big miss too. I like the rest of the camera, just the ergonomics are really bad in my opinion. Just because its packed with tech doesn't make it immune to criticism or opinions that aren't for praising the camera 100%.
One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?
Because thats a totally different camera style. The a7cii was exactly what I was looking for. It just really needs a bit of a longer grip like the Nikon z30 has, its just way too small. Plus the buttons are still horrible. Tech marvel or whatever, doesn't excuse the absolutely poor button layouts. Nikon z30 managed to figure out a great button situation in the same size camera. Sony has them all oddly placed, not having the 2 rotating dials pushing in was a big miss too. I like the rest of the camera, just the ergonomics are really bad in my opinion. Just because its packed with tech doesn't make it immune to criticism or opinions that aren't for praising the camera 100%.
Jun 14, 2026 at 10:16 PM
p.2 #7Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Another vote for the Smallrig base plate. I have an A7CR which included the Sony extender in the price but still think the Smallrig is better. I bought one in silver since I have a silver finish camera. Looks great and works well with larger lenses. But as others have said, it's personal!
Jun 15, 2026 at 04:30 AM
p.2 #8Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
darbo wrote:
Is returning the camera for a refund an option? I love my a7C II, but I sure wouldn’t want to live with it if I hated the ergonomics. A grip might help, but maybe not.
Nope,bought it used. I'd really love to do a diy grip or wish the camera was setup so you could have bolted one on instead of having to have it use a bottom cage to extend the grips length. I can already see wider lenses being an issue too. This time around I was just going to stick with f2/2.8 type lenses instead of going for bigger f1.4 lenses. I think one of the people that replied to this saying the handstrap won't work is probably right. I only held the camera for a few minutes since I got my m42 adapter and maybe I just don't have the right zebra settings but fuji's manual focus system is far superior too.
So far the tech is the only good thing about this camera, which really sucks. I was so happy to find a small rangefinder camera since I have a big nose and using the EVF on this type of style camera is way better for me. I'm gonna go bootleg today and just get some protective wrap and this hard clay I have and mock up an external grip for fun and see if that relieves the hand cramps so I don't waste more money on buying a grip.
I work out with up to 70lbs of kettlebells, but this camera is killing my hands, it's crazy..another 5 minutes of usage yesterday with the m42 adapter and my right hand is hurting so much that I can't work out today. Hopefully that extended grip will help today or maybe if I really want to keep the camera I'll just have to hold it in a different way. Or maybe I just keep this for video and get a cage which bypasses all those issues and then just get a Fuji/Nikon camera for photography. ASP-C lenses will be smaller and cheaper too.
Is returning the camera for a refund an option? I love my a7C II, but I sure wouldn’t want to live with it if I hated the ergonomics. A grip might help, but maybe not.
Nope,bought it used. I'd really love to do a diy grip or wish the camera was setup so you could have bolted one on instead of having to have it use a bottom cage to extend the grips length. I can already see wider lenses being an issue too. This time around I was just going to stick with f2/2.8 type lenses instead of going for bigger f1.4 lenses. I think one of the people that replied to this saying the handstrap won't work is probably right. I only held the camera for a few minutes since I got my m42 adapter and maybe I just don't have the right zebra settings but fuji's manual focus system is far superior too.
So far the tech is the only good thing about this camera, which really sucks. I was so happy to find a small rangefinder camera since I have a big nose and using the EVF on this type of style camera is way better for me. I'm gonna go bootleg today and just get some protective wrap and this hard clay I have and mock up an external grip for fun and see if that relieves the hand cramps so I don't waste more money on buying a grip.
I work out with up to 70lbs of kettlebells, but this camera is killing my hands, it's crazy..another 5 minutes of usage yesterday with the m42 adapter and my right hand is hurting so much that I can't work out today. Hopefully that extended grip will help today or maybe if I really want to keep the camera I'll just have to hold it in a different way. Or maybe I just keep this for video and get a cage which bypasses all those issues and then just get a Fuji/Nikon camera for photography. ASP-C lenses will be smaller and cheaper too.
Jun 15, 2026 at 09:07 AM
p.2 #9Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Joeydgraffix wrote:
Damn, I want that too! Where can you activate it? Why did I overlook that the whole time?Not sure why you have to act like an asshole cause the images have a look to them at times? But ok.I would strongly urge you to maintain your composure and, instead of hurling expletives around, to answer serious and legitimate questions.Dood, I know you were trying to make fun of me. What does your ego want to show everyone just how smart you are with photography? What will make you feel better? Did my use of using dreamy and surreal to describe some of the images get to you that much?
Don't mind Nifty Fifty, Joey. He is exactly how you described and is only looking for validation when people exchange with him this way. Clear it is his nature.
To answer your question. These help out a lot:
https://www.amazon.com/Leftfoto-Handgrip-L-Shape-Bracket-Ergonomic/dp/B0DYY7DD1W?crid=3AL425VQOGBBB&sprefix=a7cr+gri%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-4
Nifty Fifty wrote
Joeydgraffix wrote
Nifty Fifty wrote
Joeydgraffix wrote
On the positive side I do like that the sony has somewhat of this surreal/dreamy effect look which I never got with the Fuji/Canon/Nikon. So thats cool.Don't mind Nifty Fifty, Joey. He is exactly how you described and is only looking for validation when people exchange with him this way. Clear it is his nature.
To answer your question. These help out a lot:
https://www.amazon.com/Leftfoto-Handgrip-L-Shape-Bracket-Ergonomic/dp/B0DYY7DD1W?crid=3AL425VQOGBBB&sprefix=a7cr+gri%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-4
Jun 15, 2026 at 09:35 AM
p.2 #10Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
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p.2 #11Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Joeydgraffix wrote:
Nope,bought it used. I'd really love to do a diy grip or wish the camera was setup so you could have bolted one on instead of having to have it use a bottom cage to extend the grips length. I can already see wider lenses being an issue too. This time around I was just going to stick with f2/2.8 type lenses instead of going for bigger f1.4 lenses. I think one of the people that replied to this saying the handstrap won't work is probably right. I only held the camera for a few minutes since I got my...Show more →
That sounds super ghetto, just get the $30 Smallrig grip and it will improve things immensely - if not send it back for a full refund. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1786742-REG/smallrig_4438_bottom_mount_plate_for.html
darbo wrote
Is returning the camera for a refund an option? I love my a7C II, but I sure wouldn’t want to live with it if I hated the ergonomics. A grip might help, but maybe not.That sounds super ghetto, just get the $30 Smallrig grip and it will improve things immensely - if not send it back for a full refund. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1786742-REG/smallrig_4438_bottom_mount_plate_for.html
Jun 15, 2026 at 10:24 AM
p.2 #12Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Here’s my setup with the 20-70 mounted. That’s the Houge grip-Arca base and Smallrig thumb bar. I’ve got big hands and shied away from Sony for a long time due to their cramped ergos. I find this setup totally usable, FWIW (and please excuse the cellphone image in lousy lighting):
Jun 15, 2026 at 10:25 AM
p.2 #13Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Joeydgraffix wrote:
Because thats a totally different camera style. The a7cii was exactly what I was looking for. It just really needs a bit of a longer grip like the Nikon z30 has, its just way too small. Plus the buttons are still horrible. Tech marvel or whatever, doesn't excuse the absolutely poor button layouts. Nikon z30 managed to figure out a great button situation in the same size camera. Sony has them all oddly placed, not having the 2 rotating dials pushing in was a big miss too. I like the rest of the camera, just the ergonomics are really bad...Show more →
It sounds like you are just used to a different set of buttons and button placements. For example, Sony has never on any of the six or seven Sony cameras I have owned used push in dials. So you shouldn't look for them because they are not part of a Sony layout. It sounds like you are just used to a Nikon button layout and grip style.
I have two A7RC's, an A1 II, and an older A9. They all operate fluidly for me because they have a consistent ergonomics that I am used to. The only confusion I ever experience is when I switch to my Fuji GFX100S II, which has push-in dials that are not familiar for a Sony user. If Sony did what you suggest on the A7CR, it would be a source of confusion for Sony users who are used to the usual Sony ergonomics.
I think you just bought the wrong camera. But feel free to complain.
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chiron wrote
One of the key selling points of the A7Cxx cameras is their compact size, which was a technical tour de force for Sony to achieve. If you don't like it, why not just sell it and buy an A7Rxx body?It sounds like you are just used to a different set of buttons and button placements. For example, Sony has never on any of the six or seven Sony cameras I have owned used push in dials. So you shouldn't look for them because they are not part of a Sony layout. It sounds like you are just used to a Nikon button layout and grip style.
I have two A7RC's, an A1 II, and an older A9. They all operate fluidly for me because they have a consistent ergonomics that I am used to. The only confusion I ever experience is when I switch to my Fuji GFX100S II, which has push-in dials that are not familiar for a Sony user. If Sony did what you suggest on the A7CR, it would be a source of confusion for Sony users who are used to the usual Sony ergonomics.
I think you just bought the wrong camera. But feel free to complain.
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Jun 15, 2026 at 11:20 AM
p.2 #14Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Just sell the thing…you hate it, so why keep it?
Jun 15, 2026 at 11:51 AM
p.2 #15Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
deepDEEPpurple wrote:
Don't mind Nifty Fifty, Joey. He is exactly how you described and is only looking for validation when people exchange with him this way. Clear it is his nature.
To answer your question. These help out a lot:
https://www.amazon.com/Leftfoto-Handgrip-L-Shape-Bracket-Ergonomic/dp/B0DYY7DD1W?crid=3AL425VQOGBBB&sprefix=a7cr+gri%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-4
yeah, these people are super predictable, I deal with them time to time, theres always something to complain about with them and they are the ones that usually never show their work or have anything good to show. Lacking self awareness, cry when they get called out, etc.
Thats the exact one I was looking at, but it doesn't look like I have many options, think I only saw that and the black version.
Don't mind Nifty Fifty, Joey. He is exactly how you described and is only looking for validation when people exchange with him this way. Clear it is his nature.
To answer your question. These help out a lot:
https://www.amazon.com/Leftfoto-Handgrip-L-Shape-Bracket-Ergonomic/dp/B0DYY7DD1W?crid=3AL425VQOGBBB&sprefix=a7cr+gri%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-4
yeah, these people are super predictable, I deal with them time to time, theres always something to complain about with them and they are the ones that usually never show their work or have anything good to show. Lacking self awareness, cry when they get called out, etc.
Thats the exact one I was looking at, but it doesn't look like I have many options, think I only saw that and the black version.
Jun 15, 2026 at 12:08 PM
p.2 #16Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
darbo wrote:
Just sell the thing…you hate it, so why keep it?
because I literally just got it and if you read my post I wanted to see if anyone else had the same problems and if an extended grip helped or not.
It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.
Just sell the thing…you hate it, so why keep it?
because I literally just got it and if you read my post I wanted to see if anyone else had the same problems and if an extended grip helped or not.
It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.
Jun 15, 2026 at 12:11 PM
p.2 #17Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
chiron wrote:
I think you just bought the wrong camera. But feel free to complain.
why do people here get so hurt over people voicing the problems with their cameras? Just because someone is having a bad experience with a camera doesn't mean they are complaining.
Trust me, Sony doesn't give a shit about you. If they bought something you made they would tell you every single thing they hate about your product no matter how great it is. I really don't care about being kiss ass to any company. I"m trying to see if other people had the same experience and if grips helped them overcome the bad ergonomics of the camera.
I think you just bought the wrong camera. But feel free to complain.
why do people here get so hurt over people voicing the problems with their cameras? Just because someone is having a bad experience with a camera doesn't mean they are complaining.
Trust me, Sony doesn't give a shit about you. If they bought something you made they would tell you every single thing they hate about your product no matter how great it is. I really don't care about being kiss ass to any company. I"m trying to see if other people had the same experience and if grips helped them overcome the bad ergonomics of the camera.
Jun 15, 2026 at 12:15 PM
p.2 #18Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
I find the grip on the A6700 to be quite nice. Wish the C series was the same.
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Jun 15, 2026 at 12:23 PM
p.2 #19Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
Joeydgraffix wrote:
because I literally just got it and if you read my post I wanted to see if anyone else had the same problems and if an extended grip helped or not.
It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.
WTF? You’re misinterpreting me and replying out of a knee-jerk emotional response. I’m not a fanboy. I don’t give a poo what anybody uses. I could not care less.
I’m genuinely trying to be helpful…I’m reading your own words of contempt for the camera and making the recommendation that you face reality that the camera simply doesn’t suit you. You’ll realize this eventually, so why not cut losses and sell now?
darbo wrote
Just sell the thing…you hate it, so why keep it?It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.
WTF? You’re misinterpreting me and replying out of a knee-jerk emotional response. I’m not a fanboy. I don’t give a poo what anybody uses. I could not care less.
I’m genuinely trying to be helpful…I’m reading your own words of contempt for the camera and making the recommendation that you face reality that the camera simply doesn’t suit you. You’ll realize this eventually, so why not cut losses and sell now?
Jun 15, 2026 at 12:29 PM
p.2 #20Bought a Sony A7cii, does a grip help cause this is the worst camera for ergonomics.
darbo wrote:
because I literally just got it and if you read my post I wanted to see if anyone else had the same problems and if an extended grip helped or not.
It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.WTF? You’re misinterpreting me and replying out of a knee-jerk emotional response. I’m not a fanboy. I don’t give a poo what anybody uses. I could not care less.
I’m genuinely trying to be helpful…I’m reading your own words of contempt for the camera and making the recommendation that you face reality that the camera simply doesn’t suit you. You’ll realize this eventually, so why not cut losses and sell now? That’s ALL I’m suggesting.
"Just sell the camera" isn't helpful. If you read my post you would see that I just got the camera and like I just said I wanted to see if people had the same experience and if it got better over time and with grips or any other add-on.
Joeydgraffix wrote
darbo wrote
Just sell the thing…you hate it, so why keep it?It's ok, you don't need to fanboy over material objects. That's what this forum is for, you talk to people, exchange ideas, opinions and get feedback on the questions you asked. I just dropped 2k on everything and still want to give it a go so I'm just looking for peoples experiences with it.
It's so tiresome with fanboys and people with hard headed closed mindsets.
I’m genuinely trying to be helpful…I’m reading your own words of contempt for the camera and making the recommendation that you face reality that the camera simply doesn’t suit you. You’ll realize this eventually, so why not cut losses and sell now? That’s ALL I’m suggesting.
"Just sell the camera" isn't helpful. If you read my post you would see that I just got the camera and like I just said I wanted to see if people had the same experience and if it got better over time and with grips or any other add-on.
Jun 15, 2026 at 12:39 PM